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Is this ok or a big red flag?

46 replies

Hei253 · 06/10/2023 00:08

So I'm posting about my best friend (m40) as he's constantly doing things that make me cringe, which I do tell him, but he thinks it's perfectly reasonable behaviour. Hence why I'm posting on here to see what everyone else thinks.
So basically my friend is single and has been on dating sites for ages (there's nothing wrong with him, just not stunning looking so often gets overlooked). He matched with this woman and they started chatting and were arranging to meet for a first date. Now my friend lives in one county and works shifts in another county 90 miles away ( 4 days on, 4 days off pattern) and he rents a room in a friend's house whilst he's over there for work. This woman who he was chatting to lived closer to where he works and she has kids who live with her during the week and see their dad at the weekend apparently.
Due to his shift pattern and her childcare commitments they had arranged to meet one Saturday evening but this was right in the middle of his days off so he would be doing 180 mile round trip just for this date.
He had been open and honest with this woman from the start about his situation and she seemed to understand this, however he had apparently asked this woman if he could stay at her house for the evening after their date to save him traveling back 2 hours the same night.
Now my friend can be an absolute gent and there's no way he was expecting sex from this woman on a first date unless she felt comfortable doing so and if she were to initiate anything. No, instead my friend actually suggested he bring his airbed and he could sleep downstairs! Needless to say, the date never went ahead and she ended up blocking him.
Now obviously this woman could've changed her mind about the date for any number of reasons but me being a single female too pointed out to my friend that if a guy suggested that to me that would be a huge red flag and I wouldn't go on the date either. I mean it's fine if the date goes really well and as two consenting adults you decide to spend the night together. But what if it doesn't go well and then instead of being able to say ' It's been nice meeting you but I don't think we'll be having a second date' you're awkwardly having to take them back to your house and accommodate them for the evening. The thought of that would put any woman off surely. Not to mention thinking of her own safety having not met my friend before, she wouldn't know if he was a serial killer or not ( he's not btw).
My friend's attitude was that it was a perfectly reasonable request having explained his situation to her, and that this is something he'd done in the past a couple of times with other women he'd met for dates when he was younger!!!!
I mean the fact he suggested it once is bad enough, let alone more than once. I despair! I told him that as it wasn't possible to stay at his usual digs then he should've rearranged the date for a day that was more convenient for both of them, or he could've booked into a hotel or Airbnb instead if he didn't want to drive back the same night.
Was he being unreasonable in his request to this woman or do you think this is ok? I'm dying to know

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SoRainbowRhythms · 06/10/2023 00:11

I'd think he was angling for a shag.

BeauSignoles · 06/10/2023 00:11

He is totally unreasonable. He’s never met the woman but is asking to stay at her house, presumably when she is on her own. No way.

Cecilisacaterpillar · 06/10/2023 00:16

I agree with you OP but I think maybe you'll have to leave him to work it out for himself. Surely if it happens again it will become clear to him that he's putting potential dates off, and if not well he's really only got himself to blame when he remains single 🤷🏻‍♀️

Loubelle70 · 06/10/2023 00:41

Pmsl though....her "Would you like to come in for coffee?".
Him "i will get the airbed" 😂

Tallisimo · 06/10/2023 00:44

Of course he is being unreasonable! No way would I go on a date with a stranger who suggested this!

IslandAngle · 06/10/2023 00:52

He was being totally unreasonable, for all the reasons you mention.
God, I had dates where I knew after 10 mins it was a no. Imagine if I’d have made that kind of arrangement.

LampHat · 06/10/2023 01:04

That’s hilarious.

Itham · 06/10/2023 01:14

He's single you say? Well that's not going to change anytime soon.

FictionalCharacter · 06/10/2023 01:14

He's clueless isn't he?

Mmhmmn · 06/10/2023 01:17

Absolutely no way

He is BVVU. Does he often fail to see things from others’ point of view?

Pinkbonbon · 06/10/2023 02:32

Either he's a total moron who is incapable of empathising with women.

Or he's a boundary testing piss-taker.

MariaLuna · 06/10/2023 02:43

Well, the fact he organised a date when not in the area and wanted to stay over at her house shows he obviously wanted to get his leg over.

So obvious. What a creep.

Hersecretserviceyourmaj · 06/10/2023 03:13

Loubelle70 · 06/10/2023 00:41

Pmsl though....her "Would you like to come in for coffee?".
Him "i will get the airbed" 😂

😂

Lampan · 06/10/2023 03:39

I agree this is highly off putting. Not just for the impression that he’s hoping for sex, but even more so cos it gives the idea that he’s one of those desperate, undiscerning types of men who are so plentiful on online dating. The ‘any woman will do’ types who don’t actually form their own opinions of the women they date, the fact that it is a woman who will date them is enough for them to want more. Enormous red flag.

Lampan · 06/10/2023 03:42

(continued) The fact that he doesn’t appear to have given a moment’s thought to the question what if he doesn’t like me at all? would make me run a mile.

GaraMedouar · 06/10/2023 08:03

Big red flag and not ok at all. I would definitely say no if a tinder date suggested that.

Naunet · 06/10/2023 08:18

So he thinks it’s reasonable to expect a woman who has never met him to commit to letting him stay in her house for the night? He doesn’t think women should give any concern to their safety, just his convenience? He’s either an idiot or incredibly entitled.

Naunet · 06/10/2023 08:21

And by the way, I highly doubt him not being ‘stunning’ is the reason he doesn’t get many dates. The vast, vast majority of men with partners aren’t stunning either.

Colourfulponderings · 06/10/2023 08:26

Naunet · 06/10/2023 08:18

So he thinks it’s reasonable to expect a woman who has never met him to commit to letting him stay in her house for the night? He doesn’t think women should give any concern to their safety, just his convenience? He’s either an idiot or incredibly entitled.

This. His lack of awareness is staggering.

SpringleDingle · 06/10/2023 08:29

Total red flag!

Milliondollars · 06/10/2023 08:30

No it’s not ok but it’s amazing how many men think it’s ok to come around to your house on a ‘first date.’ When I was online dating I had to cancel a few times because I had the children at home and they still wanted to come around!

Raineverywhere · 06/10/2023 08:33

It's actually a bit concerning he's so clueless. Does he have any other issues?

Shodan · 06/10/2023 08:33

Interesting that the idea of booking a Premier Inn or something didn't occur to him!

I would have refused the date and blocked him. Cheeky bastard.

PurpleBugz · 06/10/2023 08:49

I would have cancelled the date too if I was asked that

Hei253 · 06/10/2023 09:39

Mmhmmn · 06/10/2023 01:17

Absolutely no way

He is BVVU. Does he often fail to see things from others’ point of view?

Not at all. He's usually very caring and considerate of other people's feelings. There's just these odd occasions when he does something that makes me cringe ( not towards me) and I wonder if it's me that's seeing it wrong or if he really is being unreasonable as I suspect.
I mean in this scenario he was just trying to be practical. Arranging to meet this woman when it suited her more than him and because of the distance he'd been open with her about his living and working arrangements and as she seemed to understand this when they were messaging he didn't see the problem in asking to stay at hers rather than drive all the way back home again the same evening. And as the gent he is he wasn't expecting anything sexual which is why he was totally prepared to take his airbed along.
I just suggested to him that it would be an unreasonable request for a first or even a second date and he should've made other arrangements instead.

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