Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Struggling with men and dating

53 replies

strugglingtounder · 05/10/2023 17:28

I am in my late 30s and have a very successful career, my own place, a lovely family and great group of social friends from university and from various workplaces. I am fit, active and social. I enjoy life.

I look around 10 years younger than I am – I constantly have to carry ID with me. I am also told I am very attractive. I have never struggled to get male interest. I’ve had many dates and boyfriends over the years. I am fun to be around, I am kind and respectful.

I hope this doesn’t sound arrogant. I am outlining this for background.

Until recently, I have been very optimistic and strong minded and felt good about life. I have everything going for me and have been dating over the years. I attract smart, educated, nice looking men who start off well. But it’s been one bad relationship after the next. Not from my side – it’s always been them.

I went to see a therapist recently who said he couldn’t see any issue with me, as I couldn't help but wonder if it was me. But he is seeing many women who end up in relationships with narcissistic men. That I am not necessarily attracting these guys, they are everywhere, and I need to be better at spotting them.

Thing is, I have a strong bullshit detector, and can weed men out at the start of dating and relationship. I screen intensely and only date ‘the cream of the cop’ – eg, decent men. But each and every guy I have been with has ended up being nasty and selfish. They start off pursuing hard, they are really into me, polite, respectful. Then 6-12 months later, the mask slips and they are awful, arrogant, losers. Many end up cheating or leaving abruptly, as if nothing happened. I’ve even been ghosted after a two year relationship for reasons totally unknown to me.

Some of them come begging back, asking for forgiveness. Two in the past year contacted me to say I was perfect, inside and out, and that they regretted messing things up.

I am confused as to why this keeps happening.

I look around me, and it’s also happened to so many women I know – their husbands, partners etc lying, cheating, not pulling their weight, leaving them etc. The only difference is that I never end up married or in a long term relationship as I don’t put up with it for long enough.

It is starting to mess with my head and I don’t know what to do as I’d really like to meet a decent guy to settle down with and have a family.

My dad is wonderful, two of my best friends are guys – I’ve never had a reason to doubt men. But now I am becoming jaded.

Does anyone else have similar experience?

OP posts:
LightSpeeds · 06/10/2023 21:02

NP101 · 06/10/2023 15:34

I'd argue men are in fact getting worse (I say this as a man) as life partners. There is a crisis of masculinity which only seems to be growing.

Women are also achieving a lot more but their desires in a partner haven't really changed with it. This is resulting in a smaller and smaller pool of men to choose from who feel the world is now their oyster.

I'd echo some other posters and recommend ditching the apps and trying to meet men through your social or work circle.

Really interesting to hear a man saying this.

Can you elaborate on how they're getting worse as life partners and what the crisis of masculinity is?

Lili132 · 06/10/2023 22:38

Farmageddon · 05/10/2023 18:19

a very successful career, my own place, a lovely family and great group of social friends from university and from various workplaces. I am fit, active and social. I enjoy life.

All of this sounds great, but to be honest OP, your success will probably put a lot of men off. I know that sounds bad but there are very few men out there who aren't intimidated by a woman who has her shit together. They don't want an equal, they want someone they perceive as less successful.

You may get lucky and find the exception to the rule but most of the guys will happily pursue you hard for the chase (and the sex) and then lose interest because they don't want you showing them up.

This is a myth that might still have been true 10 years ago. With normalising of women having careers and coat of living crisis majority of men actually would prefer a woman with earning potential.

Farmageddon · 07/10/2023 12:19

Lili132 · 06/10/2023 22:38

This is a myth that might still have been true 10 years ago. With normalising of women having careers and coat of living crisis majority of men actually would prefer a woman with earning potential.

I agree that these days it's pretty much necessary for both parties to work to maintain a decent standard of living for a family, my point was that often these men do not want a woman who is doing better than them in life.

If the woman earns money, has a career - fine. But if she outdoes them in professional or salary terms - not so fine.

Of course not all men, but I would say some men definitely resent their partners for it, or feel emasculated. Not to mention many of these men fail to do their fair share of childcare/ housekeeping duties - that is still left to the women.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread