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This space for women has been hijacked. It's not the same

100 replies

PeacefulPottering · 29/09/2023 01:14

I'm not seeing genuine women on here.

OP posts:
Salvagehunter · 29/09/2023 21:00

I'm a woman!🤔

Sux2buthen · 30/09/2023 07:18

I'm just wondering how many of the man haters on here have sons.
If they feel this way about their own sons.
Or are their sons not the 'bad men'

It's fine to hate a man (or woman, despite popular opinion they can be shit too) for something terrible but this place is becoming a farce

readbooksdrinktea · 30/09/2023 07:27

Sensoria · 29/09/2023 09:46

I know this is going to blow your mind, but there are women who will disagree with other women or, God forbid, have a view that you might think comes from a man. Doesn’t make them any less of a woman.

Mind-blowing, isn't it, that we're not all the same...

Mothership4two · 30/09/2023 07:29

KyliesPencilCollection · 29/09/2023 06:07

I'm a bleeder! 🙋‍♀️

I'm not (any more)

Newbutoldfather · 30/09/2023 07:39

I am a man (disclaimer: I don’t normally announce this, but it is relevant to this thread).

Been here 14 years under various names and accounts, since my oldest was a few weeks old.

It is a very useful parenting site with interesting and educated people, and I have learned a lot from the (mostly) women on it. It is a parenting site, not a women’s site. Until the owners want to change that, I will continue to post.

What I do get is that some male posters are genuinely patronising and misogynistic, which is not acceptable and some aren’t but may appear to be due to their more argumentative posting style. I have probably (well definitely) made that error, but I try hard to avoid it now.

It does take time to learn the ‘style’ of any community and I think even some more confrontational women are assumed to be men due to their explanatory or aggressive posting style.

Beefcurtains79 · 30/09/2023 08:14

It’s full of blokes these days, or posters insisting that it was never intended for women, or parents.
Is it so much to ask for one place on the internet where we don’t have to have men around? They literally have the whole internet, but they keep coming here to hector and reprimand.
I get it, Mumsnet HQ and other posters want them here, so be it. It’s ok for posters to want a women only space though.
I can’t wait for ‘giggle’ to be launched, it’s supposed to be women only… so fingers crossed.
If thats even allowed these days, I know people are trying to stop it.

Loubelle70 · 30/09/2023 08:26

5128gap · 29/09/2023 18:44

We know men are 'allowed'. That's not the point. The presence of men isn't the issue, it's the behaviour. It's one thing having men included, it's quite another having it hammered home at every opportunity that men are maligned and are victims, and that we're 'sexist' against them. Having them celebrated, defended and uplifted all the time is very wearying, when it would be nice to have just one place where we could speak freely, discuss our experiences, without constantly being told off for not centering men.
There was a thread the other day where the OP had had negative experience of men. It was perfectly obvious from the title it would be a thread where women shared and were supportive of each other around this issue. Yet with tiresome predictability along come the men to tell her and others they were wrong. I mean, just why? That woman and others on the thread had been assaulted and abused. Why can't men just think, this one thread maybe isnt the place for me and my opinions, and just leave women be?

This

KyliesPencilCollection · 01/10/2023 16:21

Actually, I should have put 'ex-bleeder', though still uterus&cervix haver.

It's all a load of bollox really, innit!

PaintedEgg · 01/10/2023 16:52

i can see the argument from both sides...on one hand I have seen few weird threads containing very graphic descriptions of sex that add absolutely nothing to the context, or threads where men basically go "she is holding it against me that i repeatedly cheated, what do i do!?" (obviously via a drip-feed)

then again i saw posts written basically from a perspective of "woman in a relationship can do no wrong". She cheated? oh she was just reacting to neglect. She physically struck him twice in the face? well he said mean things to her so it was reactive abuse.

I think I've been accused of hating men as many times as I have been accused of being one, while the simple matter of fact is people will have varied opinion about certain behaviours regardless of their own gender and that of the person they are effectively judging.

and for goodness sake not every person who has ever said something mean to someone is a "narcissist"! not ever every mother in law!

Mari9999 · 01/10/2023 17:47

I think that certain words have become buzz words on this forum to be tossed around without any regard to the actual meaning or literal definition.

If you are a SAHM and are having a money related difference of opinion with your spouse or partner you will invariably be told that you are being financially abused.

A significant number of posters declare their exs to be Narcissists without any real proof or therapeutic documentation.

Often saying that you spouse or partner has a close friendship with a member of the opposite sex brings out 1 of 2 statements: 1. he or she is having an Emotional Affair or 2. he or she has cheated or is about to cheat.

Loubelle70 · 01/10/2023 18:49

HoneyBadgerMom · 29/09/2023 16:00

I'm brand new to Mumsnet, I've tried several other forums about relationships. I will say this: while there are for sure "pick me" women (learned that phrase on MN two days ago, thank you, I love it) and for sure some nasty, Andrew-Tate-worshipping MRA types on here, this forum is SO much more balanced and allows for women to express themselves more than any other forum I've seen.

Incels and MRAs have ZERO going on in their lives. They are SO unlikeable and unsuitable for relationships they've started going to 3rd world countries and trafficking slaves back to the US under the guise of "marriage." (Passport Bros) Harassing women on the internet, blaming women for all their problems, and pushing the notion that women are subhuman slaves is literally the ONLY thrill they have, outside of that first, delicious bite of their hot pocket. (I don't know if they have them in the UK. They're like hand pies, and to be fair, they ARE quite delicious. We associate them with those guys who live in their parent's basement, taking breaks from their video games to microwave a hot pocket and complain on the internet that women are allowed to turn them down for sex. You know, losers.) You're gonna get some of that nastiness when you're on the internet. The key, I think, is it call it out when you see it and to give it exactly the attention it deserves: none.

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I call them 'captain sweatpants'...the incels who sit at their computer or play video games whilst blaming women for everything.

Mothership4two · 02/10/2023 03:23

There is a lot more trolling than back in the "good old days" and less humour generally.

decionsdecisions62 · 02/10/2023 04:59

I'm definitely getting the impression that more and more of these threads are created by AI chat bot now. They appear to be based around a story or tv but altered to form a post. It kind of takes the interest out of something when you constantly don't know if something is AI generated.

AutumnCrow · 02/10/2023 05:06

decionsdecisions62 · 02/10/2023 04:59

I'm definitely getting the impression that more and more of these threads are created by AI chat bot now. They appear to be based around a story or tv but altered to form a post. It kind of takes the interest out of something when you constantly don't know if something is AI generated.

Bloody hell I've just posted exactly this on another thread, that lot of the really long, paragraph-laden posts are being brought to us via AI / Chat GPT. There is a style to them - reasonable tone, repetition of points, and usually a build-up to a question at the end along the lines of 'how shall I deal with this?' or 'has anyone else experienced this?'

And yes, there's an organised narrative in the post, structured in a way that the OP presumably couldn't be arsed to manage themselves and which emerges bathed in tedium.

Lostcotter · 02/10/2023 05:12

Beefcurtains79 · 30/09/2023 08:14

It’s full of blokes these days, or posters insisting that it was never intended for women, or parents.
Is it so much to ask for one place on the internet where we don’t have to have men around? They literally have the whole internet, but they keep coming here to hector and reprimand.
I get it, Mumsnet HQ and other posters want them here, so be it. It’s ok for posters to want a women only space though.
I can’t wait for ‘giggle’ to be launched, it’s supposed to be women only… so fingers crossed.
If thats even allowed these days, I know people are trying to stop it.

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I usually find the male posters annoying too. There’s threads about OLD and dating where women are speaking from their experiences about online dating then men will chip in and say it’s women too blah blah ….so you now have to modify your wording and say “people on dating sites” when you really mean MEN!

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Mountaineer0009 · 02/10/2023 22:37

Spa7tak · 29/09/2023 09:25

Facebook, twitter are full of anger and hate, I come on here for a bit of love and peace or a laugh at least

mine is to avoid the bot posts that are on facebook

PinkMoscatoLover · 03/10/2023 02:28

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LOL you really are something

Mojodojocasahaus · 03/10/2023 02:47

Relationships has always been full of fruitcakes tbf much as AIBU is harsh as fuck.

Grumpusaurus · 03/10/2023 16:07

Come on OP, there have always been some men on here. Surely, you haven't forgotten our own veritable Tantric god that is Brian from Hull with his special Yoni Massages and other gems like him.

Sux2buthen · 03/10/2023 22:08

Notice nobody thinks twice about calling piglet John I think his name is.

RantyAnty · 03/10/2023 22:19

I wish they would implement a block feature so I can immediately block all the weirdos and "man here' people.

xanthesrepose · 03/10/2023 22:24

The MRA posters are bloody annoying. Are some of them pretending to be women, or am I being incredibly stupid ?!

Beefcurtains79 · 04/10/2023 06:07

I don’t know why we chant have an ignore volition on this site, it’s like it’s compulsory to have to listen to these men now, as Mumsnet simply won’t allow us to ignore them 🤢

xanthesrepose · 04/10/2023 12:56

Sux2buthen · 03/10/2023 22:08

Notice nobody thinks twice about calling piglet John I think his name is.

I haven't seen him around for years, and then only on plumbing or heating threads. He may be though!

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