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Sliding door moment

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tankcrossing · 25/09/2023 23:39

Did you ever have that sliding door moment, the one thing that could change your life or not?

Mine happened over 30 yrs ago.

My first love, who I had been in a relationship with for almost 3 years was working up North (Scotland). I was living and working in the south. He moved around a lot with his job, so Scotland was only a temporary posting for him and I would travel up on a Friday night after work and weekends were always a really great fun time where we would relish every moment together.

Well, on one of these weekends he told me that his mum had phoned and asked him to come home for a visit. He was not UK born and his family were still in their home country (EU country) I had never met his folks but they knew all about me. He on the other hand had met all my family and everyone liked him.

So, he went to visit family for 2 weeks.

When he came back to Scotland I phoned him to arrange my next visit and he dropped his bombshell. The reason for the trip, all contrived by his mother, was to get engaged to a nice girl, from his own culture who incidentally he didn’t even know.

I went to see him anyway because I was absolutely convinced that this was a huge mistake and we could correct it. Unfortunately it was no mistake, it was deadly serious. We had an horrendous 2 days where we both cried, I roared at him to ring his family and call it off. He was unable/unwilling to go against his family and so by Sunday afternoon I was back on the train travelling home distraught and now apparently single.

He phoned me a few times, we both cried and I had to tell him to stop ringing me as it was too painful for us both.

Within the year I had met and married a man and moved away from my home town to start my married life. My new husband knew all about my ex, he knew also that I was still grieving for my lost love and he said it was ok, we would be ok.

Unfortunately we were not ok, the marriage was very shaky and within the first 6 months we were struggling.

Mum rang me and said a letter had arrived for me and it was postmarked Scotland, what should she do with it.

Without hesitation I told her that I didn’t want to know what was in the letter. I said if you read it, never tell me what it said and she should throw it away. This is what she did. I think this was my sliding door!

My marriage rumbled and stumbled on for 20 yrs, we had 2 children who were now in their early teens and I was truely ready for a divorce.

We were now in the early years of home computers and mobile phones. I received an email from my first love, he had tracked me down and gave me his his phone number and asked me to please call him. I told my husband straight away and I told him I wanted to make the phone call. For 20 years I had wondered if he did marry that girl, I had to know the truth.

As soon as I heard his voice I was transported back to that weekend in Scotland where we cried and let each other go.

He did marry that girl and they had 2 children, the marriage failed ultimately and he never remarried. He had thought about me for the past 20 yrs and deeply regretted letting me go. Then he asked if I had received a letter from him, I told him the truth that I chose not to read it as I was by then married to my now DP.

I asked him what was in the letter, he said oh it doesn’t matter now and wouldn’t tell me the contents.

We shared a few more phone calls and then I had to tell him to stop. It was all too emotional and I had to concentrate on my real life and my marriage. The Marriage was irrecoverable, we eventually divorced and once again I was single.

2 yrs later I met my now DP. I buried all thoughts of my first love and I powered on with my new relationship. I absolutely adore and love my DP. We have been together for almost 10 years.

About a year ago, my first love popped up on my FB. I can honestly say that I was happy to see he was still alive and healthy, however I have finally put to rest the what might/could/should have beens.

We are both getting old now and I have since moved countries. I don’t suppose I will ever see him again in person. The thought of one of us dying without this happening is too sad to think about but I know that I have now made peace with the past and my future looks bright. I am with a man who loves me and who would never let me down. A heart can only take so much and mine is full of joy and love for my DP, although there will always be a small place in there that my first love once occupied.

note, I should add, mum has long since passed away so I can’t ask her if she read the letter of more than 30 years ago.

if you read all of that, well done!!

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DigitalGoat · 25/09/2023 23:46

That was quite the emotional rollercoaster! I'm not sure I would have had the strength or to read the letter or at least ask what wasi n it. Glad you ultimately found happiness x

albalass · 26/09/2023 00:01

You write in a really engaging way OP, I felt I was on the emotional rollercoaster with you! I don't have anything so dramatic although like most people I have quite a few pivotal moments in my life that had I made a different decision I would have a totally different life in almost every way.

tankcrossing · 26/09/2023 00:01

DigitalGoat · 25/09/2023 23:46

That was quite the emotional rollercoaster! I'm not sure I would have had the strength or to read the letter or at least ask what wasi n it. Glad you ultimately found happiness x

Thank you, I knew that I wouldn’t be able to cope if that letter was asking me to come back. I also knew that if he was happily married to that girl I couldn’t cope with that either. No win situation really, best to not know at that time.

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tankcrossing · 26/09/2023 00:06

albalass · 26/09/2023 00:01

You write in a really engaging way OP, I felt I was on the emotional rollercoaster with you! I don't have anything so dramatic although like most people I have quite a few pivotal moments in my life that had I made a different decision I would have a totally different life in almost every way.

Thank you, there is so much more to this story that I could fill a book. I have to admit though, happy as I am in my current life, writing that all down really made my eyes water, not crying here, nope!!!

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NameChange210 · 26/09/2023 00:35

I don't have a sliding doors moment, so can't really are anything constructive to the thread, but what a roller coaster of emotions. I'm so glad you finally found happiness.

momymu · 26/09/2023 00:44

Completely off topic- but the only European country where they still
practice that 'introduction' till this day begins with an 'A'. Am I right?

tankcrossing · 26/09/2023 00:48

momymu · 26/09/2023 00:44

Completely off topic- but the only European country where they still
practice that 'introduction' till this day begins with an 'A'. Am I right?

No, it was Greece

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Louise303 · 26/09/2023 01:08

An older family member always used to say what's meant for you will not pass you by.

tankcrossing · 26/09/2023 02:33

Louise303 · 26/09/2023 01:08

An older family member always used to say what's meant for you will not pass you by.

Yes, I can absolutely say that I am now where I aught to be. However, it’s been a long and emotional journey getting here.

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CookieDoughKid · 26/09/2023 04:36

what An incredible story. How also fortunate you’ve had these loves in your life too. Thank you for sharing

tankcrossing · 26/09/2023 04:50

CookieDoughKid · 26/09/2023 04:36

what An incredible story. How also fortunate you’ve had these loves in your life too. Thank you for sharing

Thank you, I know he's still keeping an eye on me from afar because he will comment on the occasion FB post that I make and he always wishes me and DP much happiness, says how happy we look etc. which we are indeed.

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ScotInExile · 26/09/2023 05:05

My sliding door moment saved my life.

I was due to fly back to Thailand from Australia on Christmas day 2004 to go back to my Thai boyfriend and his family. Unfortunately I did too much partying on Christmas eve and didn't wake up in time to catch my flight so disappointingly had to reschedule for 2 days later. The next day I was frozen in shock and disbelief when I saw the Boxing Day Tsunami on the news. The village where my boyfriend and his entire family lived was completely wiped out. I tried calling him for days but couldn't get through as all the phone towers had also been wiped out so I naturally assumed he was gone. The government advised against all non-essential travel to the area so I had to reschedule my flights again and couldn't go to look for him.

Eventually after 8 days of trying to get through his phone rang at his end and he answered. He had survived by climbing a tree but most of his family and friends were killed. I would definitely have been killed too if I hadn't missed my Christmas day flight.

tankcrossing · 26/09/2023 05:30

ScotInExile · 26/09/2023 05:05

My sliding door moment saved my life.

I was due to fly back to Thailand from Australia on Christmas day 2004 to go back to my Thai boyfriend and his family. Unfortunately I did too much partying on Christmas eve and didn't wake up in time to catch my flight so disappointingly had to reschedule for 2 days later. The next day I was frozen in shock and disbelief when I saw the Boxing Day Tsunami on the news. The village where my boyfriend and his entire family lived was completely wiped out. I tried calling him for days but couldn't get through as all the phone towers had also been wiped out so I naturally assumed he was gone. The government advised against all non-essential travel to the area so I had to reschedule my flights again and couldn't go to look for him.

Eventually after 8 days of trying to get through his phone rang at his end and he answered. He had survived by climbing a tree but most of his family and friends were killed. I would definitely have been killed too if I hadn't missed my Christmas day flight.

Oh my dear girl, that is an absolutely huge sliding door. thank goodness you missed your flight that day.

My older sister always tells me things happen for a reason, especially when things are not going right (I usually think she's just trying to make me feel better) In your case this is spot on, you were meant to live as was your boyfriend. So sorry for all his lost family and friends.

All you can do is live a life worth living and relish every single day.

Thank you for sharing x

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strof · 26/09/2023 06:35

I'm a male aged 60 and went out with a girl aged 23.we both liked each other but I was fresh out of a 5 year relationship and it didn't feel right at the time .
I married so did she and we both had children .she endured a few unhappy long term relationships. I was unhappily married for 27 years .
As time went on I reflected on the times we had together.i would see her now and again as she is a friend of an extended family member . I regretted how things ended but we were both in relationships
Out of the blue she sent me a friend request on fb and we began talking and haven't stopped .

Second date this weekend and we both love it.we were serial snoggers back then and it's business as usual .we both reflect on what might have been .looking back on the passage of time kills me so I'm looking forward.
Early days but I feel great atm .

Quietmouse · 26/09/2023 06:47

It may well be a good thing not to meet again. I have a similar story - choice made at 18, and still with him over forty years later. We kept in touch sporadically over all this time. He has had three unsuccessful marriages/long term relationships. We agreed to meet as we’re both older now and who knows how long we will both be around. I was so excited and happy to be seeing him again after all this time but as soon as I saw him it was as if a switch had been thrown and I felt absolutely nothing. He said that he felt the same as he always had etc . I couldn’t wait to get in my car and drive home to my husband. Of course I didn’t say this to him, we keep In touch but for me it’s changed and in many ways I’m glad - Finally I see a clear future un muddied by what if.

Ladybug14 · 26/09/2023 06:56

@tankcrossing what an amazing story. Please write a book !

I so want to know what was in the letter 🥰

tankcrossing · 26/09/2023 07:00

Ladybug14 · 26/09/2023 06:56

@tankcrossing what an amazing story. Please write a book !

I so want to know what was in the letter 🥰

Ha ha, I would like to know also. Perhaps I should cross examine him while we are both still alive. Only he knows the truth now.

As I have now retired, maybe I have a book in me, who knows

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slidingdoor89 · 26/09/2023 07:01

That was so emotional, OP! I thought I knew how it was going to end and then I didn't. I'm glad you've made peace with it what happened with your first love.

I might have had a sliding door moment a few months ago. Time will tell.

I dated an ex for two years as a teen. We went our separate ways and I moved away. I met someone else and got married, had a DC. Marriage ended badly not so long ago after being together over a decade in total. Within a couple of months, guess who resurfaced? We had kept in touch but would go long periods without speaking. Long story short, we went through trauma together and have since had 14 very difficult years since on each side. Neither of us are in good places really and neither of us would be prepared to even consider a relationship at this point. Except with each other...He was sort of out of sight out of mind for me. I've always known I was his one that got away. But I didn't expect old feelings to come alive quite like they have. He knows me better and in ways that no one else ever has or will given our experiences. But then I have known him 20 years. No one has ever made me feel like he has.

Ladybug14 · 26/09/2023 07:03

tankcrossing · 26/09/2023 07:00

Ha ha, I would like to know also. Perhaps I should cross examine him while we are both still alive. Only he knows the truth now.

As I have now retired, maybe I have a book in me, who knows

You DEFINITELY have a book in you! I'd buy it for sure!

Would it be very inappropriate to message him and ask about the contents of the letter? My trouble is I like i's dotted etc 🙄

tankcrossing · 26/09/2023 07:11

Ladybug14 · 26/09/2023 07:03

You DEFINITELY have a book in you! I'd buy it for sure!

Would it be very inappropriate to message him and ask about the contents of the letter? My trouble is I like i's dotted etc 🙄

I so wish I had asked mum while she was still alive. If I find out what was in the letter I promise to come back and let you all know.

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SleepingStandingUp · 26/09/2023 07:17

Mine was a night out. Long story short, DFiance was meant to come up and is go out. He didn't. So I went out with friends. Long story short what happened resulted in an attempted suicide the next day by me.
Relationship rumbled on but we were early 20s, not very mature, and we eventually killed it.

And so on the surface, if he'd come... it wouldn't have happened and we'd have stayed together. No suicide attempt spotted by a flat mate.

The same flat mate who later told only me when she was taking an overdose and I managed to get her help several hundred miles away.

But, I wasn't in a good place and our relationship was so toxic. I wonder if that weekend hadn't have happened cif it was just delaying the inevitable but with more pills and fewer friends around.

But also maybe that friend wouldn't have felt she could tell me. And her daughter wouldn't have her Mom.

Without the suicide attempt, coming home early from uni I'd have got a different job, my whole life would be different. But I don't know if it would be better. That crisis point was a massive turning point in my depression. An actual call for help.

tankcrossing · 26/09/2023 07:35

@slidingdoor89 i think our older self is far more sensible and knowledgeable than our younger self. Hopefully this will guide us in a more gentle and steady way as we muddle through the new version of ourselves.

I wish you all the luck in the world as you explore your new journey with your past love. X

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GilbertMarkham · 26/09/2023 12:28

Your post just illustrates why people - let's face it, men - who are from cultures with arranged marriages and who don't intend to revolt against that culture (and their family essentially) should not get into relationships with women not from their culture.

It's very poor, unfair behaviour and they're only thinking of getting their end away and having fun and getting what they want.
Sometimes they even impregnate women and then expect them to have a termination.

Even after doing that, he still wouldn't leave you alone to heal ... Sending letters, looking you up on Facebook. More selfishness and self indulgence.

GilbertMarkham · 26/09/2023 12:29

I'm very glad you had the strength to move on and not become his UK mistress/side chick - which is probably what he'd have done to you if you'd let him.

tankcrossing · 26/09/2023 22:05

@GilbertMarkham yes, I get what you are saying, but, here’s the thing. When people fall in love they tend to go a bit bonkers.

All commonsense goes out of the window.

if as you say, he was only interested in getting his ‘end away’ then I think that the moment we split up he would have forgotten all about me.

I have had other ex boyfriends who I have never given another thought to and if they contacted me decades later I would be mildly amused.

This one however was my one, for three years he was my everything and I truely believe he felt the same. To hold someone’s attention for thirty years is no mean feat.

He knows he caused me a lot of pain and I think he has carried that guilt all these years. Now when he wishes me well I believe it’s from his heart, the same heart that broke along with mine on that sad weekend in Scotland.

My biggest regret was to marry someone else while this was all still so raw. Not fair on him even though he knew the facts. Nothing to do with culture, we just weren’t quite right for each other.

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