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Sliding door moment

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tankcrossing · 25/09/2023 23:39

Did you ever have that sliding door moment, the one thing that could change your life or not?

Mine happened over 30 yrs ago.

My first love, who I had been in a relationship with for almost 3 years was working up North (Scotland). I was living and working in the south. He moved around a lot with his job, so Scotland was only a temporary posting for him and I would travel up on a Friday night after work and weekends were always a really great fun time where we would relish every moment together.

Well, on one of these weekends he told me that his mum had phoned and asked him to come home for a visit. He was not UK born and his family were still in their home country (EU country) I had never met his folks but they knew all about me. He on the other hand had met all my family and everyone liked him.

So, he went to visit family for 2 weeks.

When he came back to Scotland I phoned him to arrange my next visit and he dropped his bombshell. The reason for the trip, all contrived by his mother, was to get engaged to a nice girl, from his own culture who incidentally he didn’t even know.

I went to see him anyway because I was absolutely convinced that this was a huge mistake and we could correct it. Unfortunately it was no mistake, it was deadly serious. We had an horrendous 2 days where we both cried, I roared at him to ring his family and call it off. He was unable/unwilling to go against his family and so by Sunday afternoon I was back on the train travelling home distraught and now apparently single.

He phoned me a few times, we both cried and I had to tell him to stop ringing me as it was too painful for us both.

Within the year I had met and married a man and moved away from my home town to start my married life. My new husband knew all about my ex, he knew also that I was still grieving for my lost love and he said it was ok, we would be ok.

Unfortunately we were not ok, the marriage was very shaky and within the first 6 months we were struggling.

Mum rang me and said a letter had arrived for me and it was postmarked Scotland, what should she do with it.

Without hesitation I told her that I didn’t want to know what was in the letter. I said if you read it, never tell me what it said and she should throw it away. This is what she did. I think this was my sliding door!

My marriage rumbled and stumbled on for 20 yrs, we had 2 children who were now in their early teens and I was truely ready for a divorce.

We were now in the early years of home computers and mobile phones. I received an email from my first love, he had tracked me down and gave me his his phone number and asked me to please call him. I told my husband straight away and I told him I wanted to make the phone call. For 20 years I had wondered if he did marry that girl, I had to know the truth.

As soon as I heard his voice I was transported back to that weekend in Scotland where we cried and let each other go.

He did marry that girl and they had 2 children, the marriage failed ultimately and he never remarried. He had thought about me for the past 20 yrs and deeply regretted letting me go. Then he asked if I had received a letter from him, I told him the truth that I chose not to read it as I was by then married to my now DP.

I asked him what was in the letter, he said oh it doesn’t matter now and wouldn’t tell me the contents.

We shared a few more phone calls and then I had to tell him to stop. It was all too emotional and I had to concentrate on my real life and my marriage. The Marriage was irrecoverable, we eventually divorced and once again I was single.

2 yrs later I met my now DP. I buried all thoughts of my first love and I powered on with my new relationship. I absolutely adore and love my DP. We have been together for almost 10 years.

About a year ago, my first love popped up on my FB. I can honestly say that I was happy to see he was still alive and healthy, however I have finally put to rest the what might/could/should have beens.

We are both getting old now and I have since moved countries. I don’t suppose I will ever see him again in person. The thought of one of us dying without this happening is too sad to think about but I know that I have now made peace with the past and my future looks bright. I am with a man who loves me and who would never let me down. A heart can only take so much and mine is full of joy and love for my DP, although there will always be a small place in there that my first love once occupied.

note, I should add, mum has long since passed away so I can’t ask her if she read the letter of more than 30 years ago.

if you read all of that, well done!!

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GilbertMarkham · 27/09/2023 00:44

*When people fall in love they tend to go a bit bonkers.

All commonsense goes out of the window.*

There are men with integrity who, when they know they won't ever be able to offer a woman an LTR or marriage due to cultural differences.... Do not engage in interactions with women that will lead to dating etc. It wouldnt get to the point of anyone falling in love. Even "fast" love takes encounters that they wouldn't be having. It takes being open to something.

When he knew what was going to happen, he shouldn't have put himself in the position of becoming physically and emotional intimate with a woman (at the very least a woman who was not told it would be a casual finite thing that could go nowhere and he'd be having an arranged marriage). Your man wouldn't be honest about that though,bhe only told you when it was concretely arranged. So he could get his fun and sex etc. That's not true love on his part.

Fallingthroughclouds · 27/09/2023 02:15

This is really rather beautiful.

tankcrossing · 27/09/2023 02:38

@Fallingthroughclouds Thank you, it was indeed very special. At the time all my friends and family knew we had split up, but nobody knew why. They couldn’t work it out as they could see how good we were together.

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MysteryBelle · 27/09/2023 02:59

Quite a journey. I think if you truly felt you were meant to be with him, you would have during one of the several times he tried getting in touch. A first love or young love is never forgotten but oftentimes it’s best remembered fondly and that’s all.

My natural curiosity would have had to read the letter even if I had no feelings for him. To be honest, I think if you’d had eternal romantic feelings for him, you’d have read the letter, just my opinion, might be wrong.

MysteryBelle · 27/09/2023 03:00

And I love that movie!

tankcrossing · 27/09/2023 03:23

@MysteryBelle if I had the letter in my hand at the time, there is no doubt I would have ripped it open immediately and read it. Because it was at mums 100 miles away I had the grace of that buffer which allowed me to choose otherwise. What if he wanted me back? I was newly married, once read it couldn’t be unread. It seemed like a massive can of worms that I was too afraid to open.

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MumblesParty · 27/09/2023 03:57

I had a boyfriend in my 20s. We’d been together for 4 years, got on really well, loved each other, and were talking about moving in together. Life was good.

He was invited to a university reunion weekend a couple of hours away. I chose not to go as I had an exam to study for. I think that was probably the first sliding door moment.

He came back from the weekend, and mentioned that he’d seen his old girlfriend at the reunion. She’d broken up with him during university and he’d been sad at the time, but they’d had a chat and cleared the air.

A few days later a letter arrived at his flat. He was in the bath and I picked the letter up as it came through the door. The address on the envelope was hand written and I just knew it was from his ex. For a split second I considered destroying the letter. That was my second sliding door moment.

Of course I didn’t destroy the letter, and sure enough it consisted of her telling him how lovely it had been to see him, how she regretted splitting up with him, how much she’d like to be back in touch with him. She acknowledged that he had a girlfriend now, and that she’d understand if he wasn’t interested, so if she didn’t hear back from him she’d never bother him again.

Straight away he admitted that he still had feelings for her. We broke up that day, and they immediately got together. They eventually got married, and as far as I know they’re still together 30 years later.

I sometimes wonder how different things would have been if I’d either gone on the reunion with him, or destroyed the letter without him seeing it.

tankcrossing · 27/09/2023 05:13

@MumblesParty oh my gosh, letters and sliding doors!!! So sorry this happened to you, it’s gut wrenching isn’t it

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Fallingthroughclouds · 27/09/2023 09:03

Did you go on to marry etc?

Fallingthroughclouds · 27/09/2023 09:04

@MumblesParty

Finteq · 27/09/2023 09:17

Oh wow that was written beautifully!

It was so sad.

I think it would make a great movie.

The fact that you don't get back together and we never find out what was written in the letter gives it that authenticity. In most movies ypu would have ended up back together and lived happily ever after. But the ending to your story would definitely make a better movie.

tankcrossing · 27/09/2023 09:19

@Finteq Thank you so much

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beguilingeyes · 27/09/2023 10:11

I have one of those. I met the love of my life when I was 20. We were part of a large group of friends and I didn't know how to turn it into something else.
We were coming back from a weekend party once and he tried to kiss me on the pavement in Oxford Street. I froze and he backed off. He did kind of lunge at me, but I was unprepared and young and stupid and I didn't know how to talk to him about it.
I know a lot of it was my fault but I believe that there was a lot of lying and manipulation going on by the person he eventually married.
He moved and now lives very close to where I grew up. They've been married for more than thirty years now.
I still see him and it still kills me.

Ladyj84 · 27/09/2023 11:44

When I was 19 I met a local lad he was 18 and we hit it off conversation wise and humour wise infact we spoke and met up night and day. The problem was we were both shy regarding feelings but inside I was hoplessly in love with him. As soon as I heard his voice butterflies everytime. Anyway his dad got terminal cancer and the lad became a full time carer and we drifted apart. I stupidly met someone online much older,married within weeks unknown to anyone, moved right down the country hours from family etc. Unfortunately I did not know till the day after we were married that violence and abuse would start. I remember being in hospital after he had broken my ribs and thinking all the time about the person I loved first. After 6 months of abuse and exes 9 arrests and severe emotional pain with the help of a police officer I packed a bag and traveled alone with my tail between my legs to my parents. They were great I thought I was going to get the angry treatment but they helped me get over it.I also found out I was pregnant and had a little boy 8 months later. 3 years passed and the amount of times I thought of that lad and what he was up to. Then one day my phone had a messenger message. All it said was call me and a mobile number and an smiley face, but the smiley face was written in the only way I knew that lad used to write it in his texts. The grin on my face as I rang that number straight away.Long story short 6 weeks later we got married and now have another 3 children and I can honestly say I still get those butterflies. Turned out once his dad passed he had been looking for me and been to my parents who didn't even know where I was they never knew where I went when I flitted with the older man hours away. Even the lads mum said he's been looking and looking for you. Anyway happy ending for me and we are about to go away this weekend for another wedding anniversary yay

tankcrossing · 27/09/2023 12:42

@Ladyj84 a lovely happy ending, congratulations on your anniversary x

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Dayhee · 27/09/2023 12:45

I do.

When I was 19 it was either Magaluf or Ibiza. Me and a friend were sat in the agents. Magaluf was cheaper by about £20 so we chose that.

I met my DH there and we married 2 years later. We divorced after 10 years with a child.

looking back, I was too young and whilst we still have an amicable relationship 25 years after splitting up, I always wonder how my life would have panned out had we chosen Ibiza.

MumblesParty · 27/09/2023 16:36

Fallingthroughclouds · 27/09/2023 09:03

Did you go on to marry etc?

No I didn't as it happens - but I've had several long relationships, I have teenage kids, and I'm very happy with my current partner of 7 years. But 20s boyfriend was my first love, and in my innocence I thought we'd last forever. I'll never know if we'd have stayed together, had I destroyed that letter. There was absolutely no indication that he wanted out before his ex re-appeared, and he admitted that he hadn't thought of her for years. She lived a long way away, and there was no social media, facebook, texting etc back then, so I doubt she'd have got in touch. They'll never know how I nearly stopped their relationship!

Fallingthroughclouds · 27/09/2023 17:02

MumblesParty · 27/09/2023 16:36

No I didn't as it happens - but I've had several long relationships, I have teenage kids, and I'm very happy with my current partner of 7 years. But 20s boyfriend was my first love, and in my innocence I thought we'd last forever. I'll never know if we'd have stayed together, had I destroyed that letter. There was absolutely no indication that he wanted out before his ex re-appeared, and he admitted that he hadn't thought of her for years. She lived a long way away, and there was no social media, facebook, texting etc back then, so I doubt she'd have got in touch. They'll never know how I nearly stopped their relationship!

Wow, it's amazing how much power we potentially have over people's lives. Who knows what would have been if you'd destroyed the letter, sounds like it worked out well for both of you, but sometimes it's quite nice to have those 'what if' musings.

tankcrossing · 27/09/2023 22:22

@MumblesParty you are a good egg. I think he lost a good un when he left you. All the best to you, I’m glad you are happy now.

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Masterofhappydays · 27/09/2023 22:48

A bit similar to yours, OP.

My teenage love, first love. He was my absolute world and I thought I was his.

To cut a very long story short, I was doing my legal practice course in London and on the Friday after work, he asked me to meet him so he could take me to Paris for the weekend.

I waited forever for him and he just never arrived. I called his best friend to see if he knew where he was because in my mind he’d had an accident or something. His best friend didn’t know where he was but came to London to spend the weekend making sure I was ok.

My boyfriend had caught a flight to Australia (where he was from, though he permanently lived in England). I have no idea why, but I threw my phone into the Thames, so when he tried calling me a couple of days later when he arrived in Aus, he couldn’t reach me. I have barely anyone my new number when I got a new phone because I didn’t want to hear from him.

He went to Australia because he thought I was too young to marry and have a family with and that is what he wanted. His dad (in Aus) had been calling him for weeks asking for grandchildren etc and telling him I was too career focused to ever want what he wanted.

I ended up getting close to his best friend (after months) and we eventually got together. Still married 20 yrs later.

The boyfriend who ran away to Australia came back to England and I read in the paper he got married (he was low key famous / aristocratic, so that’s why it was in the news). His marriage lasted all of 4 months.

He did contact me several times but I couldn’t bring myself to interact and I didn’t want to. I could not forgive him. Him telling me I’m the one and he’d made the biggest mistake of his life etc but he hurt me. I know he spoke to my DH too before we got married and he said to him that he’d always love me but knows how happy dh makes me and he will not step in the way.

Anyway. Twist of fate. I ended up getting married and having the family his father assumed I was too young for. I met the love of my life. I’m now living in Australia and the ex bf now lives in his mansion in England with his wife who is my doppelgänger but very bossy. He occasionally asks my dh’s parents how we both are etc and his own dad calls me occasionally telling me his son still loves me and can’t let go.

Funny old world, hey!

tankcrossing · 28/09/2023 09:33

@Masterofhappydays He promised to take you to Paris, but flew to Australia instead and didn’t even tell you??? Wow

You had the last laugh there, glad you are happy now x

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Goodornot · 28/09/2023 09:43

Within the year I had met and married a man and moved away from my home town to start my married life. My new husband knew all about my ex, he knew also that I was still grieving for my lost love and he said it was ok, we would be ok.

In less than a year of dating someone new you married him and he knew you were still hung up on him?

You were on the rebound and your husband was in denial as he really wanted to be with you.

The lack of empathy in which you talk about your husband and father of your children is shocking. The poor guy he wasted his life on someone who never really wanted him and all you care about is the ex who wouldn't take you and whether you ultimately found happiness.

I'm not sure what reaction you're looking for.

Goodornot · 28/09/2023 10:16

Also a sliding doors moment would be if you hadn't been there at a certain time the outcome would be different or you'd meet another way.

This guy actively chose to submit to his families wishes and not be with you and you never ended up together. There was no sliding doors moment. He made a choice and it wasn't you.

tankcrossing · 28/09/2023 11:10

@Goodornot Thanks Goodornot, obviously this is not the whole story and believe me, the husband does not come out of this covered in glory. He was not some love struck teenager, he was 10 years older than me and this was his second marriage. His first marriage failed for the same reasons as his second marriage. The first wife jumped ship after 6 yrs, I hung in there for 20 yrs trying my damndest to make it work but it wasn’t going to. I think he chose me because he thought I was damaged and weak, these days it has a posh name ‘coercive control’ in those days it was called being a controlling bully.

biggest mistake marrying him, second biggest mistake staying with him for 20 years.

I didn’t want him to be a part of this story, I believe he is someone else’s problem now. But thanks for your input.

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Goodornot · 28/09/2023 12:00

You chose him less than a year after losing your love. So you're not covered in glory either. You knew you were in love with someone else and still did it.

I'm not sure what good this is doing in any event. He might have been your first love but he didn't choose you. Ultimately he would have family pressure or not but he didn't choose you. It isn't actually that romantic. I've never run away from someone I wanted to be with.

There's no future in the past and nothing to be gained by this.