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He’s messaging other women again

61 replies

OfCourseHesDoneItAgain · 11/09/2023 20:17

I’ll try and keep it short (tend to waffle). About 18 months ago, not long after moving in together, I found that DP was messaging other women. This was completely by accident and by chance, he had left his Facebook messages open on the iPad, I’d never used the iPad before and asked for the passcode while he was out one day. Messages weren’t massively inappropriate, but he was telling various women he was single and lonely etc. And exchanging photos (face, nothing dodgy). He had clearly never had the chance to meet any of these women (they were all abroad, quite obviously fake profiles mostly, so just “troll” type accounts and messages). I confronted him, very upset. He knows I was repeatedly cheated on, lied to and gaslit by my ex and how much this affected me and my mental health. At first he maintained he had done nothing wrong, I was overreacting etc. Eventually he was able to see my point of view, said he understood, apologised and said it would never happen again. He was, at the time, also using another chat app (as well as the ones I saw on Facebook), which I never saw the messages on but most of these FB messages asked the girls to move to this other app. He agreed to delete it and it wouldn’t happen again. He had an explanation for it all and it sort of made sense. We got over it, I’ve weirdly not found I’ve had any trust issues since and we’ve been okay.

Well, I don’t use the iPad often but did notice afterwards he had logged out of all Facebook, messages type apps at the time. Today, I get a message request from a female name I don’t know, saying “ask your bf who he is chatting to”. I wasn’t sure what to think, opened the iPad and they are all back, and logged in. I know I shouldn’t have looked but suddenly all these apps were back (presumably after an update or something, or he grew comfortable again as I haven’t used the iPad much in months). This chat app he was using previously was there too (I had no idea he used this app, until I saw him inviting those girls to chat there), but was the only one not logged in. Well, I snooped (I know, I feel awful and I know it’s terrible of me), and it’s happening again. Same stuff, loads of girls, all young and pretty, messaging them asking to move to this other app or WhatsApp to chat. Saying he’s single and lonely, etc.

Do I tell him I’ve snooped? Ask to look at this app? If he says no- well then I know. What if he lets me and it’s innocent? We are over then anyway. He’s not meeting women, it’s probably not even classed as an emotional affair as it’s dozens of chats with women (if the same as last time). I don’t know what it is. I know the excuses he’ll make, but he promised me never again.

I’m struggling at the moment anyway after a family bereavement, and the funeral is this week. What do I do?

OP posts:
Poppyblush · 12/09/2023 07:10

Leave. He’s done it before, he’ll do it again. Don’t be a mug waiting for the next time.

AgentJohnson · 12/09/2023 07:23

Leave, you know you should have left the first time.

I always feel uncomfortable when a poster writes “he knows what my Ex did”, this means nothing, this man is cut from the same cloth as your Ex, just a different pattern.

Coffeeandanap · 12/09/2023 07:27

I think you forgiving him is probably just a protective mechanism rather than true forgiveness. He’s gaslit you by saying it isn’t cheating etc and you’ve been able to mentally put it in a box because it’s easier that way. That isn’t your fault.

I would leave him. He hasn’t changed & logging out of the apps after you caught him the first time suggests he never had any intention to, only to make sure you didn’t find out again.

Whilst it’s not physical cheating now, I would bet my house on him doing something physical if he got the chance.

Rather than feeling bad about looking, focus your thoughts on how outraged you should be that he’s doing this again. He has betrayed your trust & it will happen again if you stay with him, especially if you confront him because he’ll feel like you will always take his excuses and not actually leave this relationship.

I suspect you minimise his behaviour because it isn’t as bad as you’ve experienced in the past, he probably knows this too but you deserve so much more than this. Leave, he’ll drive you mad and miserable.

Dont get into a debate with him about it, just say to him that you know he’s doing this again, you can’t trust him and therefore it’s over and you want him out. Tell family so they can support you, it’s easier to be gaslit when the only person you’re speaking to is the one that’s hurting you.

Pottyberry · 12/09/2023 07:28

Saying he is single and lonely indicates he wants to meet up IMHO. If it was messaging only his circumstances don't matter. Sorry op.i don't think he will stop, it's likely to escalate. He's a fool and you really deserve better.

wildwestpioneer · 12/09/2023 07:35

He clearly has no respect for you or your feelings, if he did, he'd not have started to chat to these women again.

Take the fact it's talking to women out of the equation and ask yourself, if you had done something that really upset your dp, I mean really upset him and it was a boundary he wasn't willing to cross, would you do that thing again, even if you knew how much it would upset him? Of course you wouldn't because you're a nice person and respect and love him. He's not offering you the same curtesy

Hiddenvoice · 12/09/2023 07:41

Aww op I’m sorry he’s doing it again. There’s no point driving yourself insane wondering why he does it, you’ll somehow blame yourself and really it’s all on him.

Be honest and tell him someone messaged you. Tell
him because he has previous and he already broke your trust, you checked and seen he was still at it.

Then dump him, don’t listen to whatever lies and excuses he comes up with. This man isn’t going to change and you shouldn’t be wasting your time here. You are going through a grieving period and he’s busy chatting to other women. Put yourself first and get this waste of space put of your life.

LetItGoHome · 12/09/2023 07:46

You need to end this relationship.

fourelementary · 12/09/2023 07:46

I’d message the girl back and ask her to let him know to pack his bags

“Sally says to let you know your bags are packed and in the garden. You aren’t worth her even bothering to speak to. Sad Prick.”

Then block, delete and write honour of your life.

LyricalGangsta · 12/09/2023 07:49

He has issues. Real issues that need addressing.
He has a woman who loves him yet he needs the extra gratification and self approval that other women want him.
Sad.

I wouldnt even give any explanation. He knows what he's doing.

Depending on the situation, I would just take my stuff and go or if it's joint house start the ball rolling on whatever is needed there, or your house (I bet it was/is your house) I would tell him he needs to leave asap.

But either way it's done. He doesn't value you. He doesn't truly love you.

2chocolateoranges · 12/09/2023 07:49

If you forgive again this will keep happening throughout your relationship, he won’t change.

know your worth!

HowAmYa · 12/09/2023 08:31

Jeez just bin him. You deserve better. I wouldn't even bother with giving him ANY airtime over this.
You should have binned him before when he 'saw your point of view and apologised' (by the way that's utterly crap, he knows its fucking cheating and he got you to forgive him because he apparently suddenly saw it from your POV. What a creep).

I take it you don't share kids and are not married.
Kick him the f out

Lilyargin · 12/09/2023 08:36

Urgh. Get rid. You do not need this shit in your life.
As a pp said, life is too short to put up with this.
He will never change but you can change your circumstances and lead a much better life without this sad prick.
Sorry you're going through this.

MadamWhiteleigh · 12/09/2023 08:41

What do you do?

Dump him and find someone better. Or make a life on your own without some wanker dragging you down.

OfCourseHesDoneItAgain · 12/09/2023 09:46

Thank you to everyone for the replies. I don’t have any support in real life and my family are grieving at the moment too so no one else I can really talk to. I’ve just signed up to a making friends app, feel a bit sad needing this to make friends but this has highlighted how alone I am really.

The excuses he gave last time (and this time actually now I’ve confronted him) is that he gets a kick out of winding up the scammers, making them think he has money etc then letting them down, likes the attention from them but mostly thinks if he is chatting to them they are leaving someone more vulnerable alone. So a real knight in shining armour! Not.

OP posts:
Redskyatwhatever · 12/09/2023 09:55

He says it just messaging but I’m betting if a real life woman responded and suggested a meet up he’d be off like a rocket.

Honeyroar · 12/09/2023 11:02

How about joining one evening class or exercise group to make friends? I joined a french group a few years ago, I didn’t know a soul. They’re now like me a group of friends..

Goodornot · 12/09/2023 11:03

Messages weren’t massively inappropriate, but he was telling various women he was single and lonely etc. And exchanging photos (face, nothing dodgy).

if that isn't inappropriate within the confines if a relationship then what is?! It isn't inappropriate to send women messages that he's single?

Please leave. Find a decent man who won't do this and will only want you.

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BarrelOfOtters · 12/09/2023 11:29

Bin him

Coffeeandanap · 12/09/2023 11:30

Jesus, he really can spin a tale can’t he?! Just dump him, stop entertaining his excuses & stories, refuse to listen to him. Get him out of your life, you’ll start to feel so much better about yourself when he’s not around dragging you down

becarefulofyourheart · 12/09/2023 11:40

OfCourseHesDoneItAgain · 11/09/2023 21:50

The worst part is he himself said they are probably just bots or scammers the first time. So he’s willing to lose his real life girlfriend for imaginary ones…

Dude needs therapy, imaginary women FFS. Novelty is a need a LT partner can’t fulfil, and his craving for such paltry attention is sad. Like everyone else says, you deserve better. You ever been for counselling about the last cheating ex? Sometimes we repeat patterns, it doesn’t mean there’s anything flawed or whatever about us but it can be useful to be aware why we’re choosing what we choose and stop it becoming something we’re stuck in. I kept picking the same sort of twat, when I talked to someone and realised I was doing it they became easier to spot and I didn’t get dragged in. I’m sorry this has happened off the back of a loss, the universe is a dickhead at times.

Cowlover89 · 12/09/2023 11:40

LTB

MariePaperRoses · 12/09/2023 11:43

What's not to like about someone who is sly, deceptive, lies, manipulates, is desperate to have sex with other women and doesn't give a fuck about you or your feelings?

WeveAllBeenThere · 12/09/2023 12:18

My ex was exactly the same, even though he knew I had been cheated on in the past. He couldn’t help himself! I caught him on random apps, social media messages random girls and some i knew. He needed the attention, to know he was wanted by other women, to have the thrill of thinking these women wanted him, that he still ‘had it’…I became obsessed with checking his phone and it turned me into a crazy lady! Took me ages to work out he was a desperate loser who only cared about himself and would never change. I’m now with the man of my dreams, and it wouldn’t ever cross my mind think to check his phone. I can’t believe I put up with that shit.

Calibrate · 12/09/2023 13:03

Has he shown you the messages on WA or other messaging apps? Be Interesting to know if they are as benign as the messages on Facebook.