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Sacrificing sex for the sake of the family

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CarolynKnappShappeyShipwright · 11/09/2023 18:03

I am in my mid 30s, met DH at 18 and married a few years after, 2 DC.

We are the picture perfect family, we have a lovely home, amazing holidays, a wonderful lifestyle, fulfilling jobs, no money issues now...

DH, in particular, is a dream husband. He loves me so, so much, he does, probably 80% of the housework and childcare because I am lazier than him, I have no excuse for not doing more, other than because I have taken advantage of the fact I know it will get done. I am making an effort to address this. He is my best friend, we laugh, we understand each others senses of humour and we support each other.

BUT

I do not want to have sex with him. I have done, mostly because I want him to feel loved the way he loves me, because I do love him very much, but I don´t know whether I am in love with him any more and I feel so mechanical. I do want to have sex with other men, I crave passion, lust etc. I had that with DH for about a year, back when we were 18.

Half my life has gone by and lately I have been really struggling to come to terms with the fact that I will not know mad passion and lust and desire and good sex. On the other hand, I know deep down that DH is a much, much nicer person than me and that the DC are happy in their lovely lives and entirely innocent, and that a lack of passion is not reason enough to change that.

I know that many, many people have been through this, and I am waiting for an appointment for therapy, but I was wondering if anyone, further down the line, had any advice on how to come to terms with this.

Thank you

OP posts:
Dichotomouse · 11/09/2023 19:14

I highly recommend looking up Esther Perel on YouTube and/or reading her book 'Mating In Captivity'. I think she will have a lot to say that can really help you.

EarringsandLipstick · 11/09/2023 19:21

category12 · 11/09/2023 18:30

Have you tried changing your contraception method?

If you're on hormonal contraceptives it can sometimes have a funny effect on you. Might be worth trying something else to see if it's something as basic as that? Because you say you did have passion with him in the early days.

Since she was 19?

EarringsandLipstick · 11/09/2023 19:22

BiscuitsandPuffin · 11/09/2023 18:36

Unpopular opinion on MN but join a BDSM club and take DH with you to try it out in a safe environment.

Christ. 🫤

MyHornCanPierceTheSky · 11/09/2023 19:28

What's the financial circs? Either of you more substantial earner? If he wasn't doing 80% of housework/childcare would you have left already?

Radiohat · 11/09/2023 19:39

I split with my first DP because the thought of sex with him made me feel sick. He was a lovely man but he never did it for me. He was my first and I was with him for years but I just had to get away... for me it was the right thing . Your situation is different and you need to explore all possibilities. Another poster suggested changing contraception as CP can put some people off - it put be off. You also sound lovely for caring and not wanting to hurt your DH.... speak to a professional who may help you, it is not your fault that you no longer fancy him and that he feels like a brother to you. Good luck I hope you find what will make you feel right.

BaroldandNedmund · 11/09/2023 20:00

I was the same. I left, had the completely amazing sex and now I’m single, fifty and post menopause, no libido but even if I had I don’t think I’d find anyone suitable.

I’m glad I left because my exH is quite narcissistic and it could never have lasted, but if I’d given up what you have I’d be feeling pretty rubbish.

CarelessWispa15 · 11/09/2023 20:46

Lavender14 · 11/09/2023 18:51

My question to you op would be how often do you and dh actually go out on dates and go home to a child free house?

It's so easy to get bogged down in the running of home and family and life etc that you start to see your partner as someone who is there like your teammate or room-mate rather than as someone intimate. I find when I do have date nights with dh where we both go out, get dressed up and feel a bit fancy and properly invest some time in each other it reminds me that I really fancy him again and it helps reconnect us when being parents has taken over. Might be worth a try? At the very least you know you enjoy his company so you'll have a good time.

This ^^

When you do get some alone time with your DH I suggest putting on a blindfold and reawakening your senses. Put on some music and get massaged with warming oils. Read some erotic fiction or listen to some audio books to get yourself fired up beforehand.

It sounds like you've put your DH in the comfy zone and you just need some time to reconnect again.

The thought of other people and the reality can be very, very different so I would suggest enjoying the lovely DH you already have rather than hankering over some fantasy man who may not even exist.

Or buy yourself a womanizer and light your own fire without burning down your marriage.

Good luck!

category12 · 11/09/2023 21:22

EarringsandLipstick · 11/09/2023 19:21

Since she was 19?

Potentially if she's been on the same sort of contraceptives. Some people go on something and stick with it, if it doesn't have any immediately obvious side-effects.

I've read articles in the past about how hormonal birth control can affect our tastes in men.

I think it's worth looking at the very basic practical stuff if you started out fancying the guy and having a good sex life with him, especially if the relationship is otherwise in good shape.

hoven · 11/09/2023 21:31

Suck it up op. There's no such thing as perfect. Try spicing up your relationship or get a new hobby or goal to distract you

DGConsultant · 11/09/2023 21:41

I see a lot of these posts. Your husband sounds very good, from a 36 year old single guy writing this. You can't turn back time or rekindle teenage lust. Novelty, make time for good, involved sex, It is so easy to get stuck in the 925, and ultimately I don't want to sound remotely harsh, but perfection is impossible. You'll both have to make the effort to reenergise sex life, date nights, time alone, romantic weekends away, toys, discover some kinks, etc.

DGConsultant · 11/09/2023 22:25

The alternative is find an FWB and have an affair, but living with the guilt would be immensely difficult and DH and kids would be destroyed, or at least, very hurt. So many women complain about this, especially if they've been with their partner quite young, which is understandable. Lots of ways to mitigate though, apart from finding a young chap who will bonk your brains out. Get creative.

MaybeBabyTwo · 11/09/2023 22:30

@CarolynKnappShappeyShipwright do you identify with the traits of ADHD? You might find it helpful to read up about it x

Hawkins0009 · 11/09/2023 22:32

all the best op

DGConsultant · 11/09/2023 22:40

Yes, good luck, op. Needing sex is a basic human requirement, so no judgement here. No easy or good solutions, I'm sorry to say.

TheBeesKnee · 11/09/2023 22:44

Have you considered swinging? Plenty of clubs around the country. It's not uncommon and honestly sounds like the best solution for you. Would be he open to it, do you think?

DGConsultant · 11/09/2023 22:51

Swinging or an open marriage, but the latter might come as a shock to your DH. Might be worth a shot though. All these things need calm, measured conversation, so talk to him about It.

DGConsultant · 11/09/2023 23:06

Lots of posts here are quite sad. Are choices when we are young, often define what happiness we derive in the future, and making choices when young Isn't easy, especially when trying to listen to others expectations of what they presume will be the perfect fairytale ending.

Boomboom22 · 11/09/2023 23:12

It's not her hormones, she hasn't fancied him in her 20s or 30s. It is because society accidentally assumes a couple is happy. If at any point she said to her friends they would support her.
Teach your kids you can leave a relationship for any reason, the other person doesn't have to be horrible or do something wrong. Even if they really love you, you not fancying them is enough. You wanting to do something else is enough.

DGConsultant · 11/09/2023 23:20

People shouldn't settle, if they don't fancy one another. Society is a shambles. Hard for me to relate, single for ages, and a guy to boot, but of course leaving might be the best approach here, especially if the op considers him to be basically a brother at this point. Her DH won't want to hear that, but being considered a brother by your wife, is the most non-sexy thing imaginable. It might spark him into wild, passionate sex, judging by the posts that won't make a difference, but there are lots of ways around this.

WereYouListeningToTheDudesStory · 11/09/2023 23:22

I can see a lot of people think it's selfish to want a sexual partner or that there's something wrong with you because you no longer fancy the same partner as when you were eighteen.

I very much adored my boyfriend at eighteen, but I'd rather stick my foot in a bear trap than sleep with him now. I think that's perfectly normal.

Life is all a risk. It's a risk to stay settled and unfulfilled. It's a risk to brave it and go after your heart's desire. It's really up to you what you do.

But in your shoes, I'd either be separating or I'd look for an affair partner. I know both are seen as akin to murder in some people's eyes, but I'd find a sexless lifelong marriage equal to living suicide.

DGConsultant · 11/09/2023 23:24

Life long marriage without good sex Isn't sustainable, no argument there.

PeggyPiglet · 11/09/2023 23:47

Wtf
People are actually suggesting have an affair? Really?

I'm in two minds here OP. I have similar issues to you but the difference is sometimes I really fancy my DH, sometimes I really don't. It's very weird.

Sex is a very important part of a relationship, but is it worth leaving over? People are very quick to tell you to leave on MN, but it's a rough road and so many people end up getting a bit of sex for a bit, have a bit of fun but then just end up alone and a bit sad.
You have a lot to throw away for a bit of passion and excitement.

midlifecd · 11/09/2023 23:48

Op I hear you, I'm in the same boat and ended up reconnecting with an old FWB. It was exciting at first but after 2-3 times of hooking up, I got bored again. Not sure what's next and it's not really changed or made anything better.

I think it's definitely hormonal - I was fine until I stopped breastfeeding my youngest, and then bam! I suddenly really wanted to shag someone else! Maybe it's my ovaries screaming that it's my last chance to have babies? I'm nearing 40 too

I recently changed my contraception and I have to say that's made me feel less like hooking up with randoms so perhaps give that a go, if you haven't already

Next on my list to try is a therapist

DGConsultant · 12/09/2023 00:04

Ideally not an affair, so far preference would be probably for the op and DH to rekindle the old spark, but that being probably unlikely, I'd be going down the different contraception route, suggesting an open marriage, swinging, etc.

CocoC · 12/09/2023 00:04

myusernom · 11/09/2023 18:45

This is so relatable for me sadly. I can agree with pretty much everything you have said.
I sometimes wonder if it's because my husband is so lovely and so chilled etc that the spark isn't there. Not that I want a 'bad boy' or anything but he's just very submissive and I'm a more dominant personality and I wonder if that plays a role as I just don't want to rip his clothes off and yes it's actually feeling brotherly these days. So I wonder if maybe he flipped the roles the other a little that maybe that could get us a small spark.
I also don't want to break our family up over sex. I highly doubt grass would be be greener either.
Yes novel sex would be no doubt better, I think everyone can relate to that, but beyond a point where would it go? Would I want a relationship with them? They wouldn't come close to my husband, never mind not being the father of my children...and the sex would stop being novel anyways...
or would I just bounce around having fling after fling? I doubt very much that would make me happy and that's pretending for a second that there would actually be a long line of suitable men to do that with that were attractive and wanted a fulfilling respectful fling not just one night stand and ghosting. I didn't find a long line of suitable men in my 20s while at uni or living abroad or partying all summer, when I was young, good looking, free, fun, no kids etc ... so I doubt I will find a long line if divorced, had 2 kids, mid 30s onwards, far less opportunity and much more baggage etc.

Maybe if I had chosen differently I might have been in a more passionate relationship to begin with but I don't have a Time Machine and if I did I couldn't use it because I love my husband and children and my life, so i think it helps to just be completely realistic.

Totally relate to both you and the above poster.
Personally, I don't think therapy will work, as I think it's problem your DH can't fix. As you said, he's like a brother. I suspect if he tried to 'act' in any way different in bed, that would actually be creepy and give the ick factor. I also think if he realises how you are feeling, it will destroy him, and the happy marriage you have.
Might be worth reading this article, in last week's Sunday Times magazine: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/stacey-duguid-interview-midlife-divorce-influencer-in-pursuit-of-happiness-h2pmlwpmh
Basically - she was clearly very self obsessed (basically, definitely not putting her children first), but the feeling you get at the end is if it were to do again, she probably wouldn't!
I think you have a LOT to lose... I would put up with it, get a dildo, and build up fantasies in my head and try and live vicariously through that... Passion and novelty won't last.... 5 years down the line you will be back to square one, minus the happy family. I don't think it is worth it.

My wild adventures as a midlife divorcee

Three years ago, the former fashion editor and mother of two Stacey Duguid had a fling that finally ended an unsatisfying marriage. Now, she’s written a very honest account of midlife lust and anxiety

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/stacey-duguid-interview-midlife-divorce-influencer-in-pursuit-of-happiness-h2pmlwpmh