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Would you have given him a second chance

34 replies

karlaka · 29/08/2023 11:02

I knew him through uni. We were both in grad school and were in a seminar group together. In July 2021 our group met to get some dinner and drinks. I really liked one of the guys. I texted him 2 days later, asking if he would like to get dinner sometime soon. We met the same week. The date was amazing. He walked me home and we kissed.

He then initiated the second date. Again, the date was great. We had so many things in common. This was also the first time I went to his place after our date and we slept together.

We kept seeing each other from then onwards. I would say on average, we saw each other 1-2x per week. He was traveling a bunch for work. Before I went on vacation (maybe after 6 dates) I asked him about being exclusive. He said he doesn't want to rush things and he doesn't mind if I have fun with other guys too. He was not dating other girls he told me.

After summer we kept seeing each other. After approx. 3 months of dating I asked him where this was going. He said he wants this to become a relationship one day but a relationship is not a contract and it's still a bit too early. We kept dating. Things were going great. Approximately every 3 weeks or so he would spend the weekend somewhere else. Saying he was visiting friends or staying somewhere else because of work.

In December 2021 I gave him an ultimatum. I said that I truly like him, but that I am not willing to be in this situationship any longer and I asked him to either commit to a relationship or I said I wouldn't want to see him any longer. He replied to me admitting he has feelings for me. He said he doesn't know why he is so hesitant. He said he wouldn't forgive himself for letting me go. He is 100% certain about me, but not as sure about other things in his life. He said it was understandable that I want a clear statement now. He's going to use the time and think things over.

We didn't talk for a week. Then he called me. He basically repeated what he had texted me before. I kept saying that we're either a couple or I'm leaving him. He agreed on us being in a 'relationship'.

3 months have passed, then one evening, it was early April 2022, he sends me a text asking me if we could talk. On the phone he tells me he has just broken up with his girlfriend. They were a couple for 3 years. She lived in another town, approx. 5 hours away by car. He has been a coward for not breaking up with her much earlier. He apologised for hurting me and betraying her. He had not loved her for a long time, but he never had the guts to quit things. He admitted that her family had been a major reason for him to stay in this relationship when looking back at it. He got on with them super well. His own family lives in the US.

Would you have given this man a second chance?
Only later, I found out that his ex gf had massive OCDs and that their sex life was non existent.

OP posts:
GreyCarpet · 29/08/2023 11:08

This again?!

FFS, everyone on your previous two threads said no.

You didn't listen to anyone's advice and argued with everyone in his defence.

Why are you asking again?

GreyCarpet · 29/08/2023 11:09

In fact, both of your threads come up under 'similar threads' beneath this thread.

Why not just reread them?

cruffinsmuffin · 29/08/2023 11:10

No.

karlaka · 29/08/2023 11:12

GreyCarpet · 29/08/2023 11:09

In fact, both of your threads come up under 'similar threads' beneath this thread.

Why not just reread them?

I'm providing way more context here

OP posts:
FOJN · 29/08/2023 11:17

He's a liar and a cheat what more context do you think we need. If you have any sense you will call it a day.

Carry on if you want to buy don't think you are so special he won't treat you the same as his last girlfriend when he gets bored, he's already spent months deceiving you.

You know what you are getting into. No matter how hurt you will feel when it ends please remember you chose to make yourself a volunteer and it would be dishonest to claim victim status.

karlaka · 29/08/2023 11:23

FOJN · 29/08/2023 11:17

He's a liar and a cheat what more context do you think we need. If you have any sense you will call it a day.

Carry on if you want to buy don't think you are so special he won't treat you the same as his last girlfriend when he gets bored, he's already spent months deceiving you.

You know what you are getting into. No matter how hurt you will feel when it ends please remember you chose to make yourself a volunteer and it would be dishonest to claim victim status.

More context on the whole development of our relationship and my part in it

OP posts:
VeridicalVagabond · 29/08/2023 11:25

I mean sure, if you want to date a weak, slimy, cowardly, worm of a man who will pop off and get himself a new girlfriend as soon as the going gets tough between the two of you. Why wouldn't you give him a second chance, he sounds such a catch! Can't imagine why his ex didn't want to have sex with him.

Beamur · 29/08/2023 11:26

No, I wouldn't give him a second chance.
He's a liar. He will lie to you too.

ThisWormHasTurned · 29/08/2023 11:27

As my Mum used to say - ‘Without trust, there is no relationship’. You cannot possibly trust him. Delete/block.

EVHead · 29/08/2023 11:28

Good grief no. Find your self-respect.

thecatinthetwat · 29/08/2023 11:28

Absolutely not. It’s weird as fuck, I’d be horrified that he could do that to two people.

ItsNotRocketSalad · 29/08/2023 11:29

karlaka · 29/08/2023 11:12

I'm providing way more context here

You just want someone to tell you to take him back. So okay, I will - absolutely give him another chance and enjoy it as much as you can until he cheats on you. You might even get a couple of months.

TGGreen · 29/08/2023 11:29

Your extra context wasn't required. FFS where are your standards? Just reread your old threads.

FOJN · 29/08/2023 11:29

More context on the whole development of our relationship and my part in it

How does that change that he is a liar and a cheat? It only matters to you because you want that information to lead to different advice, in reality it changes nothing.

HE IS A LIAR AND A CHEAT WHO CAN MAINTAIN A DECEPTION FOR MONTHS

Nothing else is relevant.

CeciNestPasUnPipi · 29/08/2023 11:30

karlaka · 29/08/2023 11:02

I knew him through uni. We were both in grad school and were in a seminar group together. In July 2021 our group met to get some dinner and drinks. I really liked one of the guys. I texted him 2 days later, asking if he would like to get dinner sometime soon. We met the same week. The date was amazing. He walked me home and we kissed.

He then initiated the second date. Again, the date was great. We had so many things in common. This was also the first time I went to his place after our date and we slept together.

We kept seeing each other from then onwards. I would say on average, we saw each other 1-2x per week. He was traveling a bunch for work. Before I went on vacation (maybe after 6 dates) I asked him about being exclusive. He said he doesn't want to rush things and he doesn't mind if I have fun with other guys too. He was not dating other girls he told me.

After summer we kept seeing each other. After approx. 3 months of dating I asked him where this was going. He said he wants this to become a relationship one day but a relationship is not a contract and it's still a bit too early. We kept dating. Things were going great. Approximately every 3 weeks or so he would spend the weekend somewhere else. Saying he was visiting friends or staying somewhere else because of work.

In December 2021 I gave him an ultimatum. I said that I truly like him, but that I am not willing to be in this situationship any longer and I asked him to either commit to a relationship or I said I wouldn't want to see him any longer. He replied to me admitting he has feelings for me. He said he doesn't know why he is so hesitant. He said he wouldn't forgive himself for letting me go. He is 100% certain about me, but not as sure about other things in his life. He said it was understandable that I want a clear statement now. He's going to use the time and think things over.

We didn't talk for a week. Then he called me. He basically repeated what he had texted me before. I kept saying that we're either a couple or I'm leaving him. He agreed on us being in a 'relationship'.

3 months have passed, then one evening, it was early April 2022, he sends me a text asking me if we could talk. On the phone he tells me he has just broken up with his girlfriend. They were a couple for 3 years. She lived in another town, approx. 5 hours away by car. He has been a coward for not breaking up with her much earlier. He apologised for hurting me and betraying her. He had not loved her for a long time, but he never had the guts to quit things. He admitted that her family had been a major reason for him to stay in this relationship when looking back at it. He got on with them super well. His own family lives in the US.

Would you have given this man a second chance?
Only later, I found out that his ex gf had massive OCDs and that their sex life was non existent.

Not a fucking chance!

CeciNestPasUnPipi · 29/08/2023 11:31

I would suggest some therapy to start to be able to see things more clearly and to be able to let go - particularly given your attempts to "provide more context" in the hope that you'll be given permission by us to make the same mistake again.

movedonfromsmithy · 29/08/2023 11:31

It's a no from me.

Yahyahs22 · 29/08/2023 11:33

Absolutely not but let's face it, you will.

Hopinghonestly · 29/08/2023 11:37

No.. his behaviour is not my type. I dont like to start my relationships in this way. I would feel i am disrespecting myself and morals to accept him.

In a few years if i bumped into him again and he had grown up acted appropriately to others in that time and genuinely changed i may consider a second chance. But by then i would most likely of moved on and our paths in life diverged.

ErinAoife · 29/08/2023 11:41

I will not trust him. His girlfriend more likely dumped him, bet she figured out about you.

FrenchandSaunders · 29/08/2023 11:44

How did you manage all that through lockdowns?

GreyCarpet · 29/08/2023 11:47

karlaka · 29/08/2023 11:12

I'm providing way more context here

And, yet, its still a unanimous no.

Rosiem2808 · 29/08/2023 11:48

And it's a 'no' from me too

Newgolddream70 · 29/08/2023 11:52

OMG he's a absolute time waster and this has been going on for two years?! Just no, OP!

Namechange666 · 29/08/2023 11:53

I aren't even on here every day and even I have seen all of your posts.

What you want is either attention or you want someone to say to you go for it.

Well here you go. Go for it. Live your best life.

You clearly deserve each other.

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