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Feel like I’m in an abusive relationship and need advice

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KCspaniel · 28/08/2023 22:27

Ok, first of all, I’m a man. I know this is mumsnet, but I checked and it seems ok for me to post. I just feel I need more of a female point of view on this.

My wife and I enjoyed a great relationship for 12 years. We had a child, when we were both in our 40s and unfortunately things started to crumble. My wife became frequently angry, agitated and controlling in a micro management way. I sometimes won’t even make a cup of tea when I fancy one, because even something that mundane can cause her to tell me I’m stirring it too loudly, or putting the milk in at the wrong time. I’m serious. I walk on eggshells.

At first I was told that I drank too much. Fair enough, because during the pandemic, I picked up an unhealthy habit of drinking most days. When it was probably time to stop, I was enjoying it and reluctant. I didn’t feel that the things she was saying were true. She’d tell me that my eyes were glazed,p and that I change dramatically, when in fact I felt it was because I was tired from work.

So I decided to do an experiment. One day I bought some cranberry juice, filled a wine bottle up with it and proceeded to drink it all. My wife had an extra big reaction that evening. My eyes were “glazed”, I was upsetting our baby who could tell I was different. I was slurring and making little sense. That cranberry juice must have been potent!

So the next day, I apologised for being drunk and said nobody should have to put up with that behaviour. I stopped drinking for 6 months while I tried to figure out what was going on.

Without alcohol to blame, my wife started picking fights about other things. She started complaining about friends, our location, my lack of help with the child (absolutely not true at all.) She can turn from looking suicidal (or murderous) to extremely happy at literally the click of a finger. It scares me. She began trying to micro manage me. An example would be one day I decided to drive to the shop and was told I didn’t need to. If I’d have gone without “permission”, she might have ghosted me for a week. I hate being ghosted. You can cut the atmosphere with a knife. It’s so bad, I now bring my tablet to dinner to read the news if she’s going through an episode of ghosting me.

Another favourite is putting me down. I don’t help enough, compared to a friends husband. I don’t earn enough money, compared to my brother in law, etc etc. It used to upset me, but now it’s water off a ducks back.

One day, her parents came to stay. I was excited for them to meet our child. It was the first time due to the pandemic. But my mother in law (who I previously had a great relationship with) treated me really badly. It was as if I was a guest in my own home. It was a shock and I suffered some anxiety from it. I approached my wife and said I felt this way, to which she replied angrily, “No you don’t! How do you think that makes me feel?!” I didn’t approach it again and in fact we haven’t shared intimate feelings since then.

One day, she was being verbally aggressive to our child. Not shouting, but putting him down. He was only 2. I took my moment, held my breath and asked her to consider seeking help, because I never thought I’d have to ask her not to be aggressive to our child. She rolled her eyes. I stood my ground and insisted she never roll her eyes at me. She left the room and 5 minutes later came back in like she was a completely different person, smiling happy. As I said, it scares me. Who can swing in those extremes of personality?

She saw a doctor and was referred for counselling, but she didn’t go in the end. Said it would be too painful and she had too much going on

I noticed that a strong pattern emerged with her anger etc and the onset of her period. I mentioned this and the doctor suggested she go on the pill. She took it for about a week I think, so we don’t know if it could help, but now that I’m aware of it, the behaviour is definitely period related.

I’m currently enduring a period of ghosting (day number 2 and counting.) I just don’t know what to do. She wanted me to take a day off work to drive her to have a cup of tea with a neighbour and pick her up again after. I couldn’t oblige, so I guess this is a way of punishing me. Only it seems massively over the top.

This is my wife. We have a kid. I can’t ( won’t) just up and leave. But I also can’t cope with an entire life of this. I began googling what is happening and it turns out I might be suffering from emotional abuse. I’m sure it’s hormonal, but then is that really an excuse to treat someone you’re supposed to love the most so awfully? When we got pregnant, I envisioned the Disney style dream family. I know that’s not going to happen, but this is so far removed, it’s not even funny.

I would love to hear from anyone who has constructive advice, or experienced anything similar. I just don’t know what to do.

Thanks so much for reading (and hopefully forgiving me for being a man on mumsnet!)

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ValerieDoonican · 29/08/2023 11:21

When pps advised note down any instances of abuse to child/ren , that includes abusing you in front of them. Im sure you realise this but just in case - unfortunately you have to protect dc. You might also be hampered by the fact that statistically it is more men than women who are abusive like this, as I understand it, so possibly more uphill for you. But you do owe it to your child, and your responsibility to your dc does override your vows to your wife, should the two turn out to be in conflict.

KCspaniel · 30/08/2023 06:57

TeenMum87 · 29/08/2023 04:15

I had PMDD (menopausal now) and it usually starts after ovulation and can last until the onset of menstruation, so 2 weeks. I agree with her that The Pill can make PMDD a hell of a lot worse, although I don’t think taking it for one week demonstrates this. If you are going to write a letter, my advise is to make sure you give it to her at her most calm time of the month (probably a few days after her period has started). PMDD is horrific for all involved and has no solution, it’s trial and error finding something that works. I took an antidepressant for my last 8 years before switching to HRT and a milder dose of antidepressant when menopausal. Good luck.

Thank you for sharing. I’m sorry to hear that you had to go through it too. If I’m not being too rude, can I ask if the behaviours my wife is showing are anything that you can relate to? Absolutely no judgment on my part. I’m keen to understand it better and if other people find it tough to control their behaviour because of pmdd, then your story gives me hope that it really can be helped.

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KCspaniel · 30/08/2023 07:08

ValerieDoonican · 29/08/2023 11:21

When pps advised note down any instances of abuse to child/ren , that includes abusing you in front of them. Im sure you realise this but just in case - unfortunately you have to protect dc. You might also be hampered by the fact that statistically it is more men than women who are abusive like this, as I understand it, so possibly more uphill for you. But you do owe it to your child, and your responsibility to your dc does override your vows to your wife, should the two turn out to be in conflict.

Thank you, it didn’t actually occur to me that I should be writing things down that happened in front of my child. I started a diary yesterday and will add to it as and when.

Make no mistake that my child is paramount. I do need to consider that breaking up his life would be traumatic and right now I’m extra vigilant and feel strong to act. When people say that these things happened to them as kids and they still still turned out fine, I think to an extent they are kidding themselves. That kind of trauma will affect you forever more.

Furthermore, my wife has nothing to fall back on without leaving the country and staying with her parents and they live in another country. It would be hugely traumatic for us all. She works 5 hours a week and because of her condition, I don’t think she could hold a full time job. Leaving is a last resort to but not one I won’t make to keep him safe.

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KCspaniel · 30/08/2023 07:15

Jibbi · 29/08/2023 08:54

Hey, I've had the same behavior from my wife going on a decade and it was abusive.

Everything was wrong all the time, criticism for everything I did or didn't do, comparing me to others making me feel like a failure. Endless silent treatment where I became a ghost in my own home and couldn't interact with the children.

Shouting and screaming, fits of rage over absolutely nothing and at times turned physical. Would take no blame, fault or criticism or apologize ever, it was always my fault. Belittling me that then turned to the children as well, shouting at them and making them feel worthless and upset.

Similarly, that quick change from being demonic to an Angel. Nobody knows what is like in public either, has a nice mother act going on that's the total opposite of what really like.

Heed my warning, be very careful. Mine turned into a version I never saw before that was way worse. Has now taken everything from under me, including the children, haven't had any contact in months and is out to destroy me.

Thank you. I’m sorry that this has happened to you also. I can completely relate to the refusal of an apology. She is usually very different around others. There has only been one time that this overspilled into public. I was tasked with dropping her off in town and couldn’t park in the place she wanted to be set down, so she had to walk back 20 meters or so. She went nuts, while I sat there waiting for her to close the car door so I could drive away. When I picked her up, she started to apologise, then stopped mid sentence and I never heard about it again. I can’t recall another single time that she took responsibility and apologised for something.

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labamba007 · 30/08/2023 07:17

I have PMDD, which is what it sounds like for your wife. Happened after I gave birth. I'm on HRT now. For two weeks of every month I'd be angry, and I couldn't cope with the minor stresses off life. But, I knew I had to do something. It wasn't fair on my husband or me. So we track my cycle and I'm very aware that when I feel angry that it's not real. My husband also gives me more alone time in those two weeks. And I go to therapy. You deserve better than this. You sound like a great husband and dad, but unless she admits to having a problem and working on it (even if it's a rocky road), I would leave.

Mamamia94 · 12/03/2024 21:28

Would love to hear an update on your situation. I have 2 children under 2 years old to an emotionally abusive partner and i am just heartbroken daily at what to do next for my little babies :( I am also in Ireland!

KCspaniel · 17/04/2024 11:16

Mamamia94 · 12/03/2024 21:28

Would love to hear an update on your situation. I have 2 children under 2 years old to an emotionally abusive partner and i am just heartbroken daily at what to do next for my little babies :( I am also in Ireland!

Hi, apologies for slow reply. I didn’t log back in here for a long time. I encouraged my partner to go to counselling and eventually she went. It had a huge impact on her attitude and our relationship for a few months. Unfortunately now things are slowly slipping again (probably what prompted me to log back in here.) We have a bit of life stress. Financially especially, it has been a tough winter and I wonder if this is kickstarting the old problems. Either way, I’m determined not to let it progress this time. I’ve drawn a line and if it’s crossed, I know that I’ll need to act in some way.

I am sorry to hear that the same is happening to you. If there’s any advice I have to give, it is to do what I did here. It took all of the above comments to make me understand what was happening and that gave me the courage to confront it, as terrifying as that is! It’s hard to be strong when the strength feels like it’s gone, but just thinking about my child and my duty to them is the fuel that gets me moving now.

I really hope you find a way through this soon. The longer it gets left, the longer you and the children suffer.

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