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Have I (DH) messed up

49 replies

midnighthour123 · 28/08/2023 06:08

Hello everyone, I'm (DH) reaching out for opinions on how I think I might have badly messed up.

For quick background, DW, 2 primary school age DC and myself recently moved house from overseas and settled into the UK. The last few years have been really extremely challenging with moving on so many fronts. The last 18 months has been fairly calming albeit still very challenging. DW works away for most of the year, as we settled DW was offered a role with much greater career opportunity than if she stayed local. Better pay, better prospects. Our moving was extremely expensive, but bills split between us together with roles is still very doable. The role is a few hours away, too far to commute so she stays away for most of the week, returning 1 day-ish per week and has generous holiday time. DW felt it very important she go for this role and I have been supportive, respectful of her decision and happily run things with DC at school, home, clubs and work full time as well. TBH, I love being a dad, I play and laugh alot with DC - its not just routine for me. I don't have time for anything else. We have not moved house to her job location yet, its one of our only options for settling, mainly becuase im worried of moving somewhere again (4 big moves in the last few years) based on a fairly new role. I'd like DC to have a bit of stability for a bit. We talk often about this and have agreed end of this year to make a decision on moving closer to her job.

I'll come to the issue where I have messed up. Between DW and I, we agreed that I could get away during summer holiday (DW has a long summer holiday) to claw back my work duties from not having the ability to get away during the year. During the year, I can barely get enough time to work, I work with the USA alot, but can't get away during the year for needing to be home most of the time and even when DW returns for a day-ish it doesnt allow me to get away to handle things or maintain work related relationships (clients and such). So we agreed I could get away for 20 days in summer, I can stack meetings back to back and handle all. I'd cover house bills and contribute to entertainment for the DC whilst DW ran the show. I understand holiday time is different to running term time and solidly empathise with the intense load. I don't undervalue the holiday time load and show solid appreciation. DW has generous holiday summer time and does not have to balance full time work but may do some admin catch up so I understand there's balance too. We also talked that this would be the only summer I'd do this, it wouldn't be easy for DW either, as in the coming here we'd agree to move to her job, or, something else that she wouldnt stay away.

Since being away (this summer, 20 days, as agreed), DW has expressed anger to me. "You left me to do everything", "you are useless", "im better of without you", "its too much on my own". F this, and F that. Very very angry about me not being there.

Have I messed up badly here? I'm here to get opinions on this so I can make amends. The voice in my head says "during the year I'll take care of DC for all the stuff, and I'll work, and I support DW to pursue whats important to her, and next year or at some point we'll nudge to a more regular setup - so me being away for 20 days in summer, in balance and when DW might want to make up for lost time a bit, and lost time to come, is probably ok?

If my perspective is screwed, and I've messed up, I'll make a big apology.

OP posts:
delilabell · 28/08/2023 06:15

You've not messed up. Your wife sounds like she doesn't want to be part of the family. It also sounds like huge expectations of you

CynicalCake · 28/08/2023 06:26

How have you messed up?

And - do you really think it's a possibility that you have messed up? Really-truly? The only thing that I could possibly see as a red flag is simply the long justifications presenting a situation where you clearly aren't in the wrong, and even then you could just have lost sight of the fact that you and DW are equals. It doesn't have to be exactly the same, but it does have to be fair. Do you feel your situation is fair?

Prettypaisleyslippers · 28/08/2023 06:26

Get divorced and marry me?

no seriously, your DW has got used to not running family life. I would offer sympathy, smile and nod. Suggest clubs/activities for them to do. Are they getting a holiday away? If not sort that. Is there any reason that they couldn’t all come join you in the US for a bit?

Tohaveandtohold · 28/08/2023 06:30

No you haven’t. She agreed you can have the time off and now realising how hard looking after the kids are because she hasn’t being hands on so she’s lashing out. I won’t even give this any thought, I’ll enjoy the rest of the 20 days and when I’m back, reassess the whole family arrangement.

Vallmo47 · 28/08/2023 06:34

She agreed OP and most women look after their children 365 days a year and would really appreciate everything you do throughout the year. Parenting is relentless, yes, but you sound great. She’s obviously not happy with your current set up, everything has been an emotional turmoil and difficult to manage. But you sound lovely.

Ohyousillybilly · 28/08/2023 06:38

Your wife is lazy, has checked out of family life and can't cope with it. She isn't a single woman anymore, she is a married mother with responsibilities towards her family. She has realised that she's failed in this and so is using you as a punch bag. Do not accept her coercive controlling and abusive behaviour.

evrey · 28/08/2023 06:56

The children are probably pining for you, she is realizing she isn't putting much into her family time wise and is probably feeling disconnected From them .
However she should not be taking this out in you this way. You haven't done anything wrong she is just projecting her mum guilt and frustration into you.
Only the 2 of you will know if this working arrangement is working between you, or if it needs to change.

Minewaslikethat · 28/08/2023 07:02

She’s behaving absolutely appallingly.

Looking after her own children should have made her realise how much you do, and made her love and appreciate me you for it.

guiltyfeethavegotnorythym · 28/08/2023 07:13

I'm not sure if I've read it right , she's having to cope on her own with the kids for twenty days ? And is now having a hissy fit ?

OffOnMyHols · 28/08/2023 07:17

Well someone is doing the other 3 weeks of the summer holidays and it’s not your wife is it @midnighthour123 . Sounds like your DW is having her cake and eating it!

You have bigger decisions to make than whether to move or not surely. If you relocate to where she is working is she willing to take on the full 50% of parenting and running the house again or is she happy to for things to stay as they are.

Like many husbands sadly I think she feels EOW is more than enough and you may well be looking at the future as a lone parent.

BeMoreBarbie · 28/08/2023 07:30

I can't see where you've gone wrong. I found it a bit hard to follow but sounds like you've only done to her what she does to you all year round?

She's checked out. I can't understand what job would be that good and irreplaceable with something locally that she has to miss out on her babies growing up. There's a career woman and then there's a disengaged woman.

Unless this is a reverse?

I'd leave either way. You'll obviously be keeping the kids full time.

Newnamehiwhodis · 28/08/2023 07:35

Nope, you’ve done nothing wrong. An agreement is an agreement.
Calling someone “useless” or “worthless” is verbal abuse.

MrsMarzetti · 28/08/2023 07:46

Take your children and leave, she clearly wants everything her way. She is living a single life and resents having to go back to being a Mum. Time for her to go.

theDudesmummy · 28/08/2023 07:50

This seems like a reverse to me.

PoliticallyIncorrectHitchling · 28/08/2023 07:54

Take your children and leave. Your "D"W isnt interested in having a family. She loves the idea of having one. You are doing everything anyway, so youll be able to plan better if you had the kids full time and found someone more appreciative and supportive.

PoliticallyIncorrectHitchling · 28/08/2023 07:54

theDudesmummy · 28/08/2023 07:50

This seems like a reverse to me.

I thought that too

midnighthour123 · 28/08/2023 07:55

The intensity of the lash out makes me question myself, I always doubt myself before questioning or reacting.

I don't mind the unfairness. Life is unfair, life is hard, it has struggles. Partners will adjust and flex to support each other. Who knows, maybe next year is unfair for DW. It has been unfair for DW in the past. Now its unfair for me, or the load is unbalanced. Nobody knows. It's not the unfairness that bothers me, its the reaction to the balance. The reaction with aggression throws me, I can't understand it and I question if I see things right. If it were reversed I would be filled with gratitude which need not neccessarily be shown, but certainly not with ingratitude. I thought maybe the intensity of having DC during the summer, when its all day is more intense and commonly unfair - thats what I thought.

OP posts:
midnighthour123 · 28/08/2023 07:56

Thank you for all your replies.
If I wanted to talk to someone, to get help, emotional help, dealing and understanding things, dealing with not very nice emotional things - who could I call?

OP posts:
Hiddenvoice · 28/08/2023 07:58

Is this a reverse?

Sorry but you’ve not messed up. All year you are the primary caregiver whilst maintaining the house and a full time job. To me, your wife has it easy and comes home to play mum. I know that sounds harsh but it doesn’t seem like she’s contributing to the household much other than sharing finances.

She has now been given an opportunity to spend a great deal of undisturbed time with her children and she’s moaning. School holidays are hard but she doesn’t get to have this much one to one with them. Of course she will still have to run a household too. I really don’t know what she thought would be happening.

It seems like your wife has very much forgotten parental responsibilities and the life of a parent. She’s been too focussed on being on her own. It’s great that she has such a fantastic career but j feel she needs to come home more and remind herself of everything you are doing for the family.

Don’t feel bad, you are more than entitled to a break here but thing is you’re not having a proper break, you’ve squeezed all this work in so you’re working everyday. Yeah it’s nice to get awah somewhere new and not have housework etc so it feels like you’ve swapped roles. This is what you need to remind her, you two have currently swapped roles and this is what you regularly have to deal with. You will still have all the other school holidays to keep your children busy.

CatherinedeBourgh · 28/08/2023 08:01

She doesn’t have the relationship with the dc to make this easy. This is partly due to your choice to not move for her job, which is understandable but must have been hard for her. She’s probably just venting her tiredness and struggle to cope at you. The question is are you OK with that?

NeedTheSeaside · 28/08/2023 08:06

midnighthour123 · 28/08/2023 07:56

Thank you for all your replies.
If I wanted to talk to someone, to get help, emotional help, dealing and understanding things, dealing with not very nice emotional things - who could I call?

Well, not your wife!

3 weeks in the summer holidays & she doesn't even need to really work.

WTAF is her problem??

Either you've missed a lot out or she needs to decide if she actually wants to be a part of the family or not. If she prefers the single life, tell her to go back to where she lives & stay there.

Acornsoup · 28/08/2023 08:14

I don't think you have done anything wrong. You did what you both agreed to and seems reasonable given that you support the family the rest of the year and it was a one off. Maybe your DW will appreciate how much you do now? Maybe remind her of that.

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 28/08/2023 08:16

Well if she can’t do it for 20 days she clearly isn’t better off on her own is she?

Seashellies · 28/08/2023 08:19

I've been through similar as you OP, my ex worked away during the week so he was away Monday morning to Friday evening every week and as I wanted stability for DS I worked full time and did everything for him whilst ex was away at work. I went away one weekend with a friend and he was calling me selfish, saying he was exhausted and couldn't cope; it highlighted to me how much I was taken for granted as he didn't think this is what she juggles every day whilst working and running the home. It sounds like are doing a lot to support her work, she agreed to you having some time away and its not your fault she underestimated how challenging it would be. Personally I'd never be with someone in this arrangement again.

Round123 · 28/08/2023 08:24

is she peri menopausal?

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