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Why don’t I understand myself and how can I get better

48 replies

Shookethtothecore · 26/08/2023 12:40

My husband says I am not balanced. Everything is either all positive or all negative. If there are 5 ways to see something I will see it the negative way (with regards to him)
that I don’t notice thinks are a problem untill the” world is on fire”, that I don’t take ownership for my mistakes and never apologise without a but.
I don’t notice these things in myself but how can I change my behaviours and why do I do these things
thank you

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pastypirate · 26/08/2023 12:43

Do you need to change? You h sounds quite critical x

EBearhug · 26/08/2023 12:46

Does anyone else suggest you're the way he says you are? Because it's possible you're fine and he's the negative one.

category12 · 26/08/2023 12:51

Well first off, what are the sort of things he does/says that you are seeing negatively? If it's stuff that negatively impact you, it would be weird to see it in another way.

It's all about context, isn't it? Do you actually need to "get better" or is there something wrong in the relationship?

Shookethtothecore · 26/08/2023 12:54

No one says these things about me but no one spends as much time with me. I have lots of friends and I’m a popular person but no one lives with me and sees me like this. This is my second marriage and my first left me so I know I do things that make people not love me

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NoSquirrels · 26/08/2023 12:57

My knee-jerk reaction is that it’s not you, it’s him.

Have you asked your friends if they recognise that description of you?

category12 · 26/08/2023 13:02

Shookethtothecore · 26/08/2023 12:54

No one says these things about me but no one spends as much time with me. I have lots of friends and I’m a popular person but no one lives with me and sees me like this. This is my second marriage and my first left me so I know I do things that make people not love me

Like what exactly?

If you get upset with him, what's the reason you're upset?
What are the mistakes you're making that you're not apologising for enough?

FictionalCharacter · 26/08/2023 13:11

I’d be thinking hard about why my husband wants to convince me there’s something wrong with you. I’d bet my house the problem is him, not you.

Shookethtothecore · 26/08/2023 13:15

No one recognises this discription of me but that’s because they don’t spend much time with me.
an example of me thinking the worse was I said I would be back from something and it over ran and I would assume that would upset him. I don’t want to be too outing here, sorry for being vague.
an apology from me is “sorry, it wasn’t my intention or I didn’t mean it like xyz” and that’s not a real apology is it.

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Stratocumulus · 26/08/2023 13:19

Goodness, why is it always in my experience that women are the ones who go looking for solutions in relationships?
Why is it that we often accept blame for so many things, so called character flaws when all along it’s not necessarily all on us?

Sit down with your husband and talk. Ask him to outline specific examples & how HE can help you to unravel and support your reactions to stressors or circumstances.

I hope it can help you both to move forward together with a new understanding of the part he can play. It’s not all on you OP.

CommonVetch · 26/08/2023 13:19

Hmm. None of that sounds terrible.

NoSquirrels · 26/08/2023 13:22

an example of me thinking the worse was I said I would be back from something and it over ran and I would assume that would upset him. I don’t want to be too outing here, sorry for being vague.

Does it usually upset him? But then on this occasion you thought he’d be upset and then he accused you of ‘thinking the worst of him’?

Shookethtothecore · 26/08/2023 13:22

I don’t think it sounds terrible either but I ruin his mental health and make him unhappy and un appreciated and I don’t want to do that to anyone. I know I can’t be without fault and I just want to not be the one who makes someone else so unhappy

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NoSquirrels · 26/08/2023 13:23

And you’re not going to be outing - we do t know you and it’s unlikely anyone would recognise you. But some details and clarity would help because at the moment who knows if it’s you or him - we can’t advise without at least a bit of specific detail to go on.

category12 · 26/08/2023 13:24

Has he form for getting upset if you're late? If you hadn't seemed worried about how he would react, do you think he'd have given you stick anyway?

If, for example, he's taken something you've said the wrong way, then that sort of apology might be on point.

but I ruin his mental health and make him unhappy and un appreciated and I don’t want to do that to anyone.
Is that what he says? He sounds really manipulative to me, to be honest. If you're so awful, why is he still there?

Shookethtothecore · 26/08/2023 13:25

my issue as I feel he over reacts on things so I expect it to blow up. I’m not often late on things if I say I’m going to be there I will be there and this over ran and I couldn’t get away and he did tell me he had to leave at a certain time. I expect things to blow up because in my opinion lots blow up a lot of the time

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category12 · 26/08/2023 13:26

When he "blows up", what does that look like?

Is everything always your fault?

Shookethtothecore · 26/08/2023 13:26

This is where I get very confused. As he said I twist things and I’m manipulating situations and I don’t stick to facts. I just pick an opinion and claim it as fact and defend

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NoSquirrels · 26/08/2023 13:27

I expect things to blow up because in my opinion lots blow up a lot of the time

Yup, as I expected then it’s him not you. He’s got you walking on eggshells. Everything is your fault - you “ruin his mental health and make him unhappy and un appreciated “.

He’s controlling you, manipulating you.

category12 · 26/08/2023 13:28

Do you think you do that?

Sounds like someone is gaslighting someone in this relationship, and I'm not sure it's you.

NoSquirrels · 26/08/2023 13:29

Shookethtothecore · 26/08/2023 13:26

This is where I get very confused. As he said I twist things and I’m manipulating situations and I don’t stick to facts. I just pick an opinion and claim it as fact and defend

This is a well recognised tactic of abusive controlling men. It’s called DARVO. Deny. Attack. Reverse Offender (i.e he’ll say that what you think he is doing - manipulating - is actually what you are doing to him.)

Shookethtothecore · 26/08/2023 13:29

It feels like everything is my fault. I have tried to tell him I feel like I’m under a lot of criticism and that makes me feel that everything will be criticised. I am not as smart as him and my memory isn’t as good so I’m sure that’s frustrating.

arguments are brutal. He says the most horiffic things. I push him to those levels but I don’t know I am doing it ans this is what I’m trying to fix.
I am no angel. I must be doing things to cause this reaction but if you’re not aware of it how can I change it.

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NoSquirrels · 26/08/2023 13:31

I push him to those levels but I don’t know I am doing it ans this is what I’m trying to fix.
I am no angel. I must be doing things to cause this reaction

IT IS NOT YOU!

Please talk to a trusted friend about what your husband says to you.

OriginalUsername2 · 26/08/2023 13:31

I couldn’t live like this OP. It sounds like you can’t do right for trying.

Dery · 26/08/2023 13:33

Okay - so it sounds like he’s annoyed that you think he will overreact (which you say is based on frequent experience of him overreacting) and, rather than this just being a bit irritating for him, you thinking he will overreact is damaging to his mental health (which sounds a bit like another overreaction to me). He sounds extremely tricky to handle. You sound - unsurprisingly perhaps - very quick to accept fault and to twist yourself into knots to try and sort this out. Is this the right man for you, do you think?

thecatinthetwat · 26/08/2023 13:35

Op, it’s not clear if you are doing these things or not. I would suggest exploring black and white thinking (see article).

but if this really doesn’t sound like you, then your partner may be gaslighting you. Do a bit of exploration and have a think. It could also be both of you, relating in unhelpful ways. Perhaps explore with a counsellor if you can afford to.

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/black-and-white-thinking

Black and White Thinking

Black and white thinking is when someone thinks in extremes. Learn more about what it is, what causes it, and what you can do about it.

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/black-and-white-thinking