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Venu · 12/08/2023 18:03

I have been with my partner for 22 years. I am 51 and he is 58. I am considering leaving him as I am concerned that I could be happier with someone else. I’ll start with some positive points about him. There are many. Then move on to the concerns.

He has lovely qualities. He has faced adversity as his mum died when he was 12 from cancer and he experienced domestic violence growing up. He is a very successful man in his field and is always striving to better himself in his professional life and personal life. For instance he taught himself to speak 4 languages, learnt how to fly jet planes and helicopters. He had a daughter aged 22 who has been very ill with her mental health and has self harmed. He has been so kind and supportive of her plight and has a lot of guilt around an unhappy marriage where there were lots of arguments she experienced between her parents.He is generous with money and has paid for incredible holidays and I have a lovely lifestyle. We have no kids of our own but when I thought there may be a possibility he went through all the tests with me and was tested himself. I knew he was worried about being a dad again but he knew how much it meant to me. I had a serious car accident and he was amazing at supporting me. He is intelligent and has helped me with many tricky moments where I needed to be more assertive .

On the flip side is he can say mean things to me that are hurtful. For instance I am struggling with the menopause and put in 3 stone. I am losing the weight but it is so hard and this has not been an issue ever in my life before. Our intimacy declined over time and when I challenged him he said it was because I put on so much weight.I have been a worrier most of my life but since the menopause my anxiety has gone through the roof. I will ask for his advice and he will refuse to help me as he hates that I am acopic. It makes me more anxious and he eventually helps or talks through the situation with me only after being nasty and saying things like, I need to sort out my mental health issues and to seek help! When I am in panic mode I don’t often listen to him and eventually make the right decision. This infuriates him and he doesn’t want to help again! I think he may be on the Asperger’s spectrum as when I confront him he recognises how his comments are inappropriate and insensitive. He struggles with emotional intelligence so lacks empathy. It’s confusing as he loves animals and can be so charming etc. He is very critical of me and it is wearing. When I had a break from work to spend time with my family in Canada ( live in Uk) he said he lost respect for me. There’s lots of examples where he says hurtful things. His dad and brother are exactly the same. He isn’t very affectionate now and it all comes from me. He is very self sufficient whereas I do need reassurance and will be quite repetitive when stressed especially with this menopause. I do want to address my anxiety.

I am not faultless either! I didn’t speak to him after the weight comments for 3 months. I eventually had to sit down and explain how I can’t be spoken to like this etc. I have instigated these conversations all the time and it is beyond frustrating. I struggle with the challenges of being a step mum at times. I have different expectations than him and no one wants to hear criticism about their child. I know I need to do better in this area.

We probably need couples counselling but I’m not sure I’d ever get him there or he would spend the whole defending his view point!

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GreyCarpet · 12/08/2023 18:17

Don't leave him because you think you might be happier with someone else.

But you can leave if you think you would be happier alone.

Believe it or not, there isn't a vast pool of desirable men in their 50s looking for a 50something woman. A lot of men that age are single for a reason and it's usually that another 50something woman has decided she'd be better off alone...

Venu · 12/08/2023 18:31

Thanks! Wise words. A lot of my single 50 year old friends are enjoying being alone etc for the reasons you said. I loved being single when I was in my twenties and it enabled me to travel vastly. Just don’t fancy being alone as I get older.

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Seaoftroubles · 12/08/2023 18:57

I am amazed that you didn't speak to him for 3 months because of the comments about your weight! How on earth did you communicate?
I agree you could do with couples counselling to help you relate to each other better, it sounds like you are loggerheads at the moment. Have you sought help for you anxiety and also what are you doing about your Menopause symptoms? Are you on hrt? There are things you can try to improve your hormonal health and your anxiety and l think that's what l would be addressing before you decide if your relationship can be salvaged.

Venu · 12/08/2023 19:29

Thank you so much. I am on HRT but I may need to increase the dose of it or change medication. I need to avoid sone of the flash points that make me stressed. I did force him to tell me why he was being less proactive with intimacy and the answer he gave was honest but it was the delivery. You used to look so much slimmer last year, let yourself go etc. He was commenting on what I was eating etc. I only spoke if I needed to over the 3 months. It was miserable but he never mentions weight again. He just makes other hurtful comments that make me upset and justifies them.

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EAP · 12/08/2023 19:30

50s is not a great age to go it alone I'm afraid, especially as a female. It's rough out there.

Venu · 12/08/2023 19:35

I think it will be hard to start again at 50. I just need to not jump into anything.I was on a business trip recently with lots of men in their 50s. Some seemed interested in me but I was appalled at how old they looked and I was not attracted to any of them. It gave me a view that it would take a lot of time to meet someone else or resign myself to life on my own.

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Seaoftroubles · 12/08/2023 20:41

OP definitely change up your hrt to try to address your meno symptoms. You might find getting the dose right helps with your anxiety too. If your husband is on the spectrum then that would explain his directness and his solution based approach to your weight and your anxiety. From your comments about his kindness towards his daughter and you in the past it doesn't sound as though he lacks empathy though.
I agree with previous posters, if you do decide to part, then be prepared to be content to go it alone as unfortunately it is not easy to find older, eligible guys that you'd actually want to have a relationship with.

mildlydispeptic · 12/08/2023 22:32

OP, please don't blow up your relationship until you've exhausted all the other options. You sound like you've got yourself into a bit of a mess. Sort your HRT properly, get your thyroid checked, get therapy for yourself, do look into some couples therapy, get into an exercise routine etc.

determinedtomakethiswork · 12/08/2023 22:57

I am really shocked at all of these responses! I think this man sounds absolutely awful. I certainly wouldn't be encouraging a woman in her fifties to stay with someone like that. I say get out while you can.

Venu · 13/08/2023 02:36

Thanks everyone. Really helpful. I definitely have got people who can’t stand him and others who find him quirky and clever. He’s incredibly intelligent and successful and complex. He has to be in the spectrum due to various fixations and routines.

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CrunchyCarrot · 13/08/2023 03:07

I'm afraid your issues will go with you if you leave your DH and are with a new partner, so be aware of that. I suspect you would need some time on your own to process what you need help with yourself. Certainly menopause isn't helping one iota! And yes it would be hard to start over.

If your DH is indeed on the spectrum, that will make life more difficult for not only you but also him too! You could try watching some YouTube videos on Aspergers or Autism that explain it and what it's like to live with, and maybe you will recognise some of your DH's behaviours, then maybe you can both talk about that. He does need to also educate himself on what menopause actually means for women, not just the cessation of periods, but the effect on a woman's body and mental health. At the moment he's not grasping it at all and is making things much harder for you with his mean comments. It's all very well he criticises you but I am certain he is not perfect either!

Whichever route you choose, I hope things improve for you.

FilthyBeast · 13/08/2023 03:24

I don't think your issues will go away. You will still be overweight and anxious. It's insane you went 3 months without talking over a comment.
It's more likely that any future guy will also have children. Good guys rarely come back on the dating market. I really agree with the excellent advice so far that there isn't a queue of available good men out there. Leave to be on your own but I would work on improving my health (weight and anxiety) and then reassess the relationship.

Venu · 13/08/2023 03:57

Thanks everyone. I love the post that you will still be overweight and anxious regardless of whether you stay or go! Harsh but fair! Really great points.I thought I would he absolutely criticised for staying so long and it is encouraging to read balanced points of views. Such brilliant suggestions to self improvement.

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Zanatdy · 13/08/2023 06:39

That’s abusive in itself not speaking to someone for 3 months. Sounds like you’d both be better apart, but agree why do it to be with someone else, do it for yourself

Venu · 13/08/2023 08:06

I did speak to him but only when I had to. Was hurt and wanted him to apologise. I brought it up and it never happened again. There’s no abuse here in my opinion. I’m happy to be on my own but need to make an informed decision. Thanks for our comments. I appreciate nearly all of them.

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Greenwitchhorse · 13/08/2023 08:57

The majority of the responses so far are batshit as far as I am concerned...

Are we still living in the 1950s? because it seems that people are advising the OP to stay with a man who sounds truly unpleasant because (the horror...) she might have to live alone, as apparently women over 50 have no chance to find a decent guy and a woman can't possibly be happy without a man...

What the hell?

OP, don't waste another day staying with a man who makes you feel bad about yourself and criticise every aspect of your personality, behaviour and appearance and stop making excuses for his behaviour.

There are also clues in the fact that his whole family is like that (hurtful) and I would wonder if his daughter's mental health issues have something to do with being raised in that kind of environment.

Find your self-esteem again and leave him.

Sometimes I truly despair at the conditioning of women by society that makes them think that any relationship, no matter how awful, is better than not having a partner. Truly sad.

TheAverageJoanne · 13/08/2023 09:02

I can't believe you've used the word acopic to describe yourself when you function quite well as evidenced by your business trips. Is this his label for you?

Venu · 13/08/2023 09:54

He did use that word. I have been like that recently. It’s mad! I went for a huge promotion and spent the whole weekend not sleeping and overanalysing everything. I couldn’t stop thinking about it and sat at my desk all weekend. When I got the position I cried as I was so exhausted as I didn’t sleep etc. Never done this in my life before. That is one of a few examples. I want to sort it out and value the advice I was given. Going to HITT training tomorrow and visiting the doctor for a HRT review. I can see both sides of this. It isn’t abuse though as that would be insulting to those who are in a lot worse a situation than I.

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TheAverageJoanne · 13/08/2023 10:12

It is abusive. Abuse comes in many different outfits.

billy1966 · 13/08/2023 10:24

OP, it sounds like the end of the road.

I wouldn't rush into any decision.

I would continue to detach, lose weight, get fit, some help with your anxiety, get your finances in order, start looking at alternative housing.

Do all these things BEFORE taking on the stress of moving.

He's not changing and you cannot fix him.

Fix yourself and make the final decision from a place of strength and peace.

Women who live alone tend to be very contented as they age.

I know several who wouldn't ever consider sharing a home again with anyone.

They love not having a single person to care for.

I totally get it.

EAP · 13/08/2023 10:35

@Greenwitchhorse have you tried dating in your 50s? It’s grim out there.

Berlinlover · 13/08/2023 10:44

Insane responses here. She’s clearly not happy with her husband but should stay because she’s in her 50s and may not meet someone else.

What on Earth is wrong with being single? Women do not need a man to lead a fulfilling life.

Somanycats · 13/08/2023 10:53

Berlinlover · 13/08/2023 10:44

Insane responses here. She’s clearly not happy with her husband but should stay because she’s in her 50s and may not meet someone else.

What on Earth is wrong with being single? Women do not need a man to lead a fulfilling life.

Nothing at all wrong with being single, but this woman has said several times that she doesn't want to be single especially as she gets older. People are pointing out that it's hard to find a quality partner in your 50s. So if she leaves she may well end up being single - which she doesn't want!

Epidote · 13/08/2023 11:13

Work on your anxiety and other stuff regardless of you being with him or not.
Anxiety and panic modes has solution,it must be exhausting being you. Bi would be on my wits ends with someone over worrying all the time by my side. Take control of yourself first and move form there later.
You are the most important person on your life, don't expect others to do what you are not doing for yourself, and take care in all the aspects.

I had a difficult anxiety time in the past and I learned to be myself again. You can do it as well.

Venu · 13/08/2023 11:53

I am not married. I have my own house but live in his. Have tenants in mine. Was going to sell it and buy something with him but will not be doing that. Thank you for your advice especially Billy 1966! Definitely 2 different viewpoints here. EAP, sounds like it is grim out there dating in your 50’s. I am not keen to be single but accept it will probably take sone time to meet someone else. I like Billy 1966 approach at present.

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