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Partner's indecisiveness is driving me crazy

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afishcalledbreanda · 01/08/2023 15:21

Name-change for this. Sorry it's long but there are necessary details.

I've always struggled with my partner's indecisiveness and FOMO. He's the kind of person who spends 30 minutes trying to choose from a menu and then regrets his choice and wants to change his order. Faced with booking a hotel or a holiday he goes into meltdown and ends up not booking at all. It drives me nuts but it's the worst thing about him, the rest is lovely.

Three weeks ago he was walking the dog in the local country park when he saw a man exposing himself to a female runner. My husband yelled and the man ran off. My husband got a photo of him as he ran away and recognised him as someone who works in a local pub. The woman who'd been flashed seemed less bothered by the incident than my husband and when he suggested they call the police she said she didn't want any hassle and ran off.

My husband spent the next fortnight talking about this incident and whether or not he should go to the police. He talked it over with everyone he knows — work colleagues, neighbours, friends, his family. I said I wanted him to report it but said that I'd support him whatever he decided, then tried to ignore the 'What should I do?' whine.

Eventually he phoned the police, told them what had happened and was told that it was an offence, they took it seriously and that he could choose their response. They could visit the man and interview him and he might end up in court and on the sex offenders' register or they could talk to him, see what he had to say and warn him that his name and details of what happened would be be recorded on file. Cue more anguish, hours more spent bending peoples' ear and repeated calls to the police to confirm that these were his only two options. Yesterday he decided to ask the police to have a phone conversation with the guy, which they did. He admitted the offence, was apologetic and embarrassed and understood that there was now a record of the incident which would remain attached to him name on police records. He said he wouldn't do it again. The police were satisfied with the outcome. My husband immediately decided he'd made the wrong decision and he wants the man charged and has now phoned the police three times to see if he can get the action changed.

For the third time he's come into the room where I'm working and wanted to go over the conversation we've already had 20 times over the last week or so. I've finally snapped and told him to let it go and he's shouted at me that I promised to support his decision and that I've let him down badly. It'll blow over and he'll wind down — but how could I have handled it differently/ better and does anyone else have a partner like him? How do you cope? He makes everything more stressful and complicated than it needs to be and he ropes everyone in.

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Aquamarine1029 · 01/08/2023 15:25

Sorry, but fuck that, op. He sounds utterly exhausting and insufferable. No amount of "lovely" is going to combat this.

DismantledKing · 01/08/2023 15:27

He sounds like an absolute nightmare

Aquamarine1029 · 01/08/2023 15:28

DismantledKing · 01/08/2023 15:27

He sounds like an absolute nightmare

Totally agree. I simply could not cope with a person like this.

Paq · 01/08/2023 15:30

That isn't FOMO, that's some kind of neuro diversity.

How does he cope with work?

afishcalledbreanda · 01/08/2023 15:38

He's not usually this bad. What usually happens is that I offer him a choice that tries to take into account his preferences and he says 'You choose, you know I can't' and that's that — so I tend to choose hat I'd prefer and he's happy to go along with it. I think it probably suits me better than the bickering over decisions that I see other couples locked into. My neighbours, for example, are still at loggerheads over the family car that was a joint compromise decision. They both hate it, both blame the other.

What sends him into meltdown are the moral dilemma situations like this one, where there's no clear right or wrong response.

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afishcalledbreanda · 01/08/2023 15:41

How does he cope with work?

He's a senior data analyst. He's paid to pay attention to tiny details and try to work out what they might mean.

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afishcalledbreanda · 01/08/2023 15:44

So, given that none of you would have married him in the first place, what decision would you have made regarding the flasher? Would you have regretted that you didn't press charges when you heard that he'd confessed?

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GreyCarpet · 01/08/2023 15:49

I'd have reported him to the police. I'd have been guided by them as to what to do. I'd have lived with the decision.

Not having been in that situation, I don't know if I'd regret it.

However, I've been in a similar situation. I was clear that I didn't want the police to take any action and promised them that I would tell them if it happened again.

I told a couple of close friends and didn't really think about it again.

DismantledKing · 01/08/2023 15:52

You don’t ‘press charges’ in this country. You report it to the police and they investigate and decide to charge (after discussions with the CPS).

GreyCarpet · 01/08/2023 15:55

DismantledKing · 01/08/2023 15:52

You don’t ‘press charges’ in this country. You report it to the police and they investigate and decide to charge (after discussions with the CPS).

When I spoke to the police, they gave me options both as to how the incident could be recorded and how I wanted them to respond to it

Maybe the OP means something like that.

afishcalledbreanda · 01/08/2023 16:07

Yes, Grey Carpet, it was left to my husband to decide how he wanted them to proceed. He was given the option of doing nothing, which would have left the incident unrecorded, or having the guy spoken to on the phone and told that the incident would remain on record, or having the police go to his house, take him into the police station for interview and then possibly facing a charge which could end in court and the sex offenders register. He took the middle way. The police don't venture an opinion on how likely or unlikely a prosecution is, but I think everyone assumed it would be very low.

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Marge1985 · 01/08/2023 16:08

Oh God, this would drive me nuts too. But I have to admit, I can be very indecisive too, hate uncertainty and tend to talk things over with lots of different people too. However I hope I’m not as bad as your DH! I know it is super annoying as my mum is also like this - I find it exhausting when she’s like that. She gets a bee in her bonnet about something and she’s either talking about it or thinking about it all the time. I’d genuinely like to know if this is likely to be down to some condition or other?! I also work in a similar type job as your DH, I think this overthinking actually has some benefits but I wish I could just make a decision and get over it. I often second guess decisions and it makes my life a bit miserable- e.g. my engagement ring, wedding dress, house we bought… 😩

I think just this case I would have reported to police and ask them to warn him initially, especially as the woman didn’t seem that bothered. But I can also see why your DH is dithering because these are the types of things men do to begin with and their behaviour can escalate.

fitofthegiggles · 01/08/2023 16:12

He knows he has an issue with decisiveness. He's also anxious to "do the right thing" - not a bad thing in itself, but clearly driving you and everyone else around the bend when that "right thing" isn't clear. Does he appreciate how very frustrating this is for you?

I'm no expert - although I recognise similar tendencies in myself and can sometimes quietly tear myself in knots about the rightness or wrongness of a decision!

Would he be up for getting some kind of counselling? I've really no idea what's available. But something which would equip him with skills which would enable him to make a decision whenever life's inevitable dilemmas come along, be confident in his own judgement and then leave it there.

It sounds to me like he's a rather anxious sort generally. Something to help this with this surely would benefit him long term and reduce your stress levels!

Poivresel · 01/08/2023 16:26

My df is like this. He’s 90 now and so much worse.
Going forward I think you need to make it plain that he has to make his own decisions if they don’t involve you.

afishcalledbreanda · 01/08/2023 16:44

I think you need to make it plain that he has to make his own decisions if they don’t involve you.

I have — and he can't stick to it. He'll say 'What's a life partner for if you can't run things past her? Aren't husbands and wives supposed to be there to talk this kind of thing through?' I do a bit of research and make a decision and take it as read that some of them won't work out as hoped and you just get on with things, so I can't really relate to this anxiety.

He's very conscientious and from a big, poor family where a wrong decision could have a disastrous outcome, so I suppose his anxiety around decision-making is understandable. He's a good man. This decision-making anxiety (and it is FOMO, it's the dread of having to make a choice and lose out on other possibilities) is the only thing I'd change about him.

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Tulpenkavalier · 01/08/2023 16:49

I think he might benefit from counselling and/or CBT.

afishcalledbreanda · 01/08/2023 17:00

I'll suggest it once we're through today's bout of buyer's regret.

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Duckingella · 01/08/2023 17:47

I'd have definitely ask the police to charge the pervert tbh;it might not be the first time he's done it just the first time he's been identified or someone has reported it (the woman not reporting it is an example);he'd have done it again I bet and he might have already or possibly in the future have done it to a teenage girl/girls.

legosunqueen · 01/08/2023 20:27

I think the police shouldn't have put the onus on a witness (not the victim) to make that decision.

monsteramunch · 01/08/2023 20:44

legosunqueen · 01/08/2023 20:27

I think the police shouldn't have put the onus on a witness (not the victim) to make that decision.

I agree, I'm shocked to hear they put that much of the decision making progress in the hands of a civilian witness to a crime. It's scary.

Keroppi · 01/08/2023 20:45

Tell him to watch The Good Place
He is Chidi.

CBT/DBT and anxiety calming behaviours could be good for him. I am hardcore and would completely ignore after a while like a toddler
Failing that could he not just happily live life with you making his decisions for him 🤣 I wouldn't mind indecisiveness. It's the regret and repetition that is the most annoying part.

MillWood85 · 01/08/2023 20:47

That sounds a really exhausting way to live, OP.

For you.

Mylovelygreendress · 01/08/2023 20:52

I have a friend who was married to a man like your husband . He was a nice man but OMG his indecisiveness was awful . It really took a toll on my friend’s mental health and she divorced him .

Bigpaintinglittlepainting · 01/08/2023 20:57

Exposing yourself is a crime and one that is linked to further sexual offences so it's actually very important to report and shine a light on offenders. In this case it has been logged and may deter the offender again.

I would say that obsessively going over this is worrying about ruining someone's life when the victim wasn't bothered is quite understandable.

However when it's a pattern of behaviour it's really bloody annoying and I have actually had this with my Dh, it's actually anxiety and he probably needs CBT

afishcalledbreanda · 01/08/2023 22:54

I would say that obsessively going over this is worrying about ruining someone's life when the victim wasn't bothered is quite understandable.

Yes, I agree. One of the loops we've been round incessantly is how my husband would feel knowing that his action had put this man on the sex offenders register with all the outcomes that result from that, when the victim of the crime didn't seem bothered.

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