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Sudden personality change/ switch

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Chrysanthis · 30/07/2023 21:18

This might sound strange, but has anyone here ever experienced something like this?
I'm not sure how to describe it 100% and I probably sound crazy but I had an argument with my bf and midway he somehow "switched off" and he went totally blank or empty...if this makes sense.
It caught me off guard and I got confused and scared, but I don't know why because he didn't do or say anything threatening, but he just was just so different and lacked any emotion. He didn't do or say anything bad or mean, so I shouldn't be upset. But he was so weird and I don't know what to make of this. Is this some sort of a breakdown?

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Pinkbonbon · 01/08/2023 22:19

You could could be dealing with a narcissist. They do a sort of 'shutting down' narcissistic stare which is to make you feel like 'am i not making sense?' Or 'am I boring them?'. It's It's to shut down conversation and invalidate your feelings.

Other examples might include telling you that you are overreacting or oversensitive. Or accusing you of always 'misunderstanding' them or not trusting them.

Ps: if you do talk with him about things. Do NOT mention possible trauma first. Do not give him an out. He could just grab onto it and lie.

Chrysanthis · 02/08/2023 05:19

Pinkbonbon · 01/08/2023 21:41

Good luck.
But when you say it scared you do you mean genuine fear?

If so, please do not discuss it with him. Just get away fast and safe. Your fear response went off to tell you you are in danger.

If you fear sacred because some some suddenly has an empty look in their eyes, fucking run as it might be the last thing you see.

If you just mean scared as in...a bit worried FOR him maybe that's different.

But don't fall into a cycle of trying to understand abusers (not saying he is abusive but that you best keep it in mind that some behaviour us just not ok irregardless of why they claim to do it).

Stay safe!

To be honest I am not sure how to describe the feeling. I felt really uneasy and unsettled when I noticed it first because he seemed like a different (and hollow) person. He wasn’t aggressive and he didn’t threaten me (he never has). But afterwards I was so confused why this had happened.

I’m not sure what I will say but I won’t being up trauma anyway. If something is bothering him and I need to know about it he has to be the one telling me voluntarily.

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Nugg · 02/08/2023 05:27

I've done this with my ex. He was like a dog with a bone on some issues, in his case many of his views were just plain wrong, and I'd just stop talking, stop listening and respond very blandly until he stopped.

Otherwise I'd go literally crazy in a never ending loop of arguing.

I wasn't being abusive, self preservation more like as my head couldn't cope any longer.

StopStartStop · 02/08/2023 06:21

I had an argument with my bf and midway he somehow "switched off" and he went totally blank or empty...if this makes sense.

This set off cold fear in the pit of my stomach and I had a flashback to see my then-husband when he tried to kill me. Nearly forty years later I get flashbacks. But I'm alive, which amazes me.

When they are absent, they can do anything. You are not safe. That's why you feel scared. It's a perfectly rational response to being with a 'psychopath' (or similar, unlabelled person) who has switched.

I felt really uneasy and unsettled when I noticed it first because he seemed like a different (and hollow) person

Yes. You were right.

I am autistic. I am familiar with neurodivergent and trauma shutdowns - when emotions run to high you go back into the room in your head and close all the shutters as a self-protection. That's not the same.

What you saw, @Chrysanthis, was someone whose layers of civilisation had peeled back. The raw person. Without shame, without restrictions on behaviour.

@Pinkbonbon has posted while I've been typing but I am here to say exactly the same.
Don't talk about this with him.
Leave the relationship as quietly as possible.
Leave as quickly as possible.

Don't mistake him for a rational person. Don't take any risks.

JibbaJab · 02/08/2023 09:09

What you saw, @Chrysanthis, was someone whose layers of civilisation had peeled back. The raw person. Without shame, without restrictions on behaviour.

@StopStartStop Yes, very much this and it's no joke. The problem OP is that it's a crafted image and they hide it and can fool everyone around them, especially their partner in the beginning but for the partner that doesn't last. Sympathy and self doubt is one of many tools, it's emotional and psychological.

For people like this there is no empathy, remorse or guilt and they are justified in everything they do. They also do not like criticism, blame or being at fault and do not take kindly to opposing opinions. They can hide themselves but you'll find they say and do things others wouldn't and there is no feelings of remorse about doing so... it's like totally normal to do those things.

Dissociation or zoning out over a traumatic topic then being done and moving on right afterwards, I'm sorry but I find it hard to believe he could just carry on like normal after it. I can't just go oop all fine after experiencing that myself.

I never in my wildest dreams ever though that mine would physically hurt me but it happened often, even tried to suffocate me in my sleep a few times, then laughed like it was nothing, just something funny that happened one night. Those without empathy are capable of anything and when they go off anything could happen.

As others have said if this is the case be very wary of discussion because the wrong topic, word, tone or way you look at them is enough to unveil it all and you don't want to be around when that happens.

Captainfairylights · 02/08/2023 12:09

Is it possible he has used prostitutes in the past and is in deep denial?

Chrysanthis · 02/08/2023 17:21

Thank you all. I don’t know what to do yet but I won’t raise the topic again

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GingerIsBest · 02/08/2023 18:45

Chrysanthis · 02/08/2023 17:21

Thank you all. I don’t know what to do yet but I won’t raise the topic again

hang on, what topic? Prostitution? So you've learnt your lesson huh? Don't say things that he doesn't want to hear. Brilliant for him.

As for trauma - absolutely, he should be telling you. But I don't think it's okay for him to have a supposed trauma response and not discuss it with you after? You haven't said what, if anything, he said about how he shut down.

Argh, this man is training you sooooo well, so early on.

Chrysanthis · 02/08/2023 20:25

GingerIsBest · 02/08/2023 18:45

hang on, what topic? Prostitution? So you've learnt your lesson huh? Don't say things that he doesn't want to hear. Brilliant for him.

As for trauma - absolutely, he should be telling you. But I don't think it's okay for him to have a supposed trauma response and not discuss it with you after? You haven't said what, if anything, he said about how he shut down.

Argh, this man is training you sooooo well, so early on.

No, sorry I was unclear. I won’t be asking him anything about what happened or what I think I saw.

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GingerIsBest · 02/08/2023 22:40

OK, good. But... be alert. You hVe been shut down in one conversation, it could.happen again. That's all I am saying.

Chrysanthis · 03/08/2023 19:35

I’ve pressed the pause button to properly think about us and what happened. Thank you all for sharing thoughts

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OhcantthInkofaname · 03/08/2023 20:25

So you basically confronted him about his lack of compassion/empathy as to others and he shutdown. Find out if that is a pattern and how it makes you feel long term.

Chrysanthis · 03/08/2023 21:19

I’m just going to take some time to think about stuff because the feedback was helpful but also a bit overwhelming. I don’t mean this as criticism at all, but it’s quite a lot to consider. I was upset earlier but I feel ok now and I know that I want to make the best choice for myself

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