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Arguments over Money

57 replies

Avenueofcherryblossom · 30/07/2023 20:40

I’m going to start by saying although I know there will be lots of LTB comments and I have looked into it, but it’s just not a practical option for me right now.

I really need to vent here because I don’t want to drag real life people into things.

There is me, my husband and a daughter, 12.

Back story: My husband hasn’t worked in five years because he stopped work in his mid fifties and has been drawing on his pension ever since. When he stopped work he announced that he was never working again. I am twelve years younger than my husband and I work full time. I earn several hundred pounds a more each month than he gets in pension so he considers me to be rich. However, he does just about manage to still engage in an expensive hobby and has various loans and credit cards that he is paying off.

Last year I ended up paying for our summer holiday in full because, although he agreed to pay half when it was booked, when the time to pay the balance came he said he had no money. I had no choice but to pay, but said that he should provide all the spending money to make up some of the difference. On the holiday he complained loudly every time he was asked to buy just a drink and some evenings he refused to buy a single drink. After the holiday he did not stop going on about how much he had spent and how it wasn’t fair that he had to spend so much. He only spent 10% to 20% of what I paid for the holiday.

So, this year I said that I wasn’t prepared to pay for him to go on holiday. I suggested that just DD and I went away but she felt funny about it. I wrangled with my husband and said that he just had to pay for himself, I would pay for me and DD. He promised and promised me that he would pay up. I paid for extras like better flight times and the airport lounge without asking for him to share the cost. I told him that he needed to contribute half the spending money.

I’m offering no prizes for guessing what happened. At balance time he gave me half the cost of his own ticket and on the holiday begrudgingly paid for a few coffees. So I paid for me, DD, half of his ticket, activities, evening drinks etc.

I am seething.

But what has capped it off today is we had to buy a particular outfit for DD because she is taking part in his brother’s wedding next week. We had lunch while we were out, I said I couldn’t afford much as I’m living on fresh air for the rest of the month following the holiday costs. He dismissed this, took us to Wagamama and was annoyed when I wouldn’t pay. He also wanted me to pay for the outfit but as it’s his brother’s wedding I don’t see that it is my cost to bear. This evening he is complaining that I am less than generous!

And he told me this evening that keeping the house clean and tidy isn’t a man’s job! So apparently I should work full time, pay for everything and do all the housework.

He tells me I am always angry - I wonder why that would be!

OP posts:
Avenueofcherryblossom · 02/08/2023 07:28

“You should seriously ask him what he thinks he brings to the relationship and what’s in it for you. Seriously, he offers nothing, but is sucking away at your resources.”

I’d love to be able to talk to him like this but he would deflect, he has built up a selection of means to achieve this over the years.

OP posts:
Avenueofcherryblossom · 02/08/2023 07:33

“AND it's quite likely that if you WAIT, he can say he is the SAHP and you are the worker - he might be given favourable treatment over keeping the home so she has somewhere to live - as you have a job, you will be seen as capable of housing your DD by yourself.”

I think he’s already in this position. When I’ve thought about leaving I’ve always assumed that I would be the resident parent but the truth, as you’ve pointed out here, is that I could easily be the one living in a bed sit paying maintenance.

OP posts:
Avenueofcherryblossom · 02/08/2023 07:34

“OP,

Kindly meant but you are some mug.

He intends you to be his retirement package.

He will bleed you dry after he has spent his pension.

To say you are being spectacularly naive is an understatement.

As for your daughter, spell things out to her.

You need to sell any property and split asap, otherwise in a few years you will be paying this selfish loser even more.

He thinks you are a fool and is treating you like it.

Get legal advice and get the hell out.

If you think things are bad now?

You have no idea how bad they can get.

You will be working to pay for HIM if you are not careful.

Please wake up.”

Thanks, I’ve taken your words on board.

OP posts:
Avenueofcherryblossom · 02/08/2023 07:40

“For goodness sake wake up and protect yourself.”

I will start looking into beginning to do this

“Start saving more. Perhaps everytime you refuse to payout on his behalf you envision that money going to your ‘leaving fund’ it will be easier to say no to him.”

I will increase my savings and as you say a ‘leaving fund’ will be a good focus.

“Best of luck. My ex also spent the bulk of our money on himself and fucking hobbies.”

Thanks

“It is free and he won't know - do a credit check in yourself / him / your address.
You'll get a picture of what you / he owes”

I hadn’t thought to do this but I will

OP posts:
tracylamont13 · 02/08/2023 07:41

Have it looked at the Dave Ramsey stuff about money? It's not for everyone but it might help you get back on track together.

Toomuch2019 · 02/08/2023 08:26

Get legal advice asap. You may be making your financial liabilities towards him worse the longer you stay. Do not trap yourself into this the rest of your life.

Your DD will adjust. But you may trap yourself indefinitely.

You only have one life, and it's not forever so if you don't want to be with this man you need to go sooner rather than later.

Unless there is a backstory and he has redeeming features?!

WillGT · 11/10/2023 08:34

Deffo find a way out, you may well find it hard but you’ll be much better and rediscover yourself

Once you’ve gone he will regret every minute thats for sure, few would wish to be with such a bloke.

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