What is it with men and conspiracy theories 🙄

[Titicacacandle]

Online dating and it seems the only men I seem to be attracted to seem to have so many issues that come up after a few chats!

Latest one, and not uncommon by a long shot, has told me that he doesn't pay his water bill because water is free from the sky and the water companies are poisoning us (but doesn't have a distiller so drinks out of plastic bottles and that can cause cancer if all your drinks are from plastic), doesn't pay council tax, doesn't work because he's awake and it's part of the matrix, 5g is going to fuck us all up and our cows are now being injected by another Bill Gates vaccine. I asked him what he did with his day if he doesn't work and he spends his days researching on what is going wrong in the world in the fight against good and evil.. oh and the huge American pedophile rings and social workers trafficking kids. I am a bloody SW, no we don't want your kids, caseloads are overwhelmed enough as it is thanks.

I just think it's sad that his life has become this. I told him we aren't compatible as we don't believe in the same stuff. I feel bad for him and did like the look of him but these conspiracy theories are mental illness. It's almost like they are the new religion with the fevered zelous that the newly converts preach.. even when you tell them you're not interested in conspiracy theories they still bang them down your throat!

I suspect that would bring on an avalanche of men berating her and seeking to 'prove' her wrong. It's bad enough that they're out there in the first place and sneaking in under the guise of being a relatively normal bloke - she doesn't need her phone blowing up with all of the loons at once and having her profile shared online for more of them.

Why do people wank on about YouTube, does the BBC or the guardian provide sources? Nope, but you will swallow what ever it is providing whole.

I don't know anyone who would insult someone who declined the vaccine because they were concerned about the potential medical effects, especially people with various pre-existing conditions.

People who refused the vaccine were insulted all the time!

I’m fully vaccinated and didn’t personally have a problem with it, but I’ve felt increasingly uncomfortable due to the way people are shut down and insulted for asking reasonable questions about the vaccine. The covid board on MN was horrendous for this, I saw a few posts calling them murderers before their posts were deleted. Posters were routinely called “Leave voters” and “Trump voters”.

The microchip theories were ridiculous, but you cannot rewrite history and say that no one was insulted for being wary of having the vaccine, there was a huge campaign of fear that very much meant the unvaccinated were looked down on and criticised.

That's a good point in that she could end up with abuse. On the other hand - there is also a chance that a requirement like that (which obviously could be worded in a different way) would resonate deeply with a likeminded man - one that you would describe as a "relatively normal bloke."

A third possibility is that the men you call "loons" might see the ad and say "she's not for me" and move on. If I was dating online it would be a hard no to an ad that expressed a negative view of so-called "conspiracy theorists." I would be grateful that I was not wasting my time in that regard with someone who wishes people like me didn't exist in the world!

It's a risk/reward thing really.

Good for you, the venom that was chucked at anyone going against this was quite telling, the egregious propoganda everywhere was also telling. Apparently I was killing people by not getting the mrna vaccine. Scientists who had reservations were all quacks, I swear people have selective memories. Being within 2 feet of people was apparently frought with danger, for a virus with a tiny mortality rate, all whilst flu conveniently disappeared. Also the whole of Asia was partying away whilst we locked down, a couple of months later they locked down because apparently it took months to get there . I was literally whatching people partying away in Vietnam on twitch whilst we were locked down, they didn't appear very sickly.

Though I had it myself, I never felt the need to berate people who didn’t have the jab. There were many reasons why someone might not have it.

Fair enough @HolyShitDrJones I don't remember that but then I didn't spend a huge amount of time on the vaccine threads. I just think some ways of expressing concerns probably sound more reasonable. For ex 'I'm immuno-comprised and worried about potential side effects' versus 'But we don't even know what's in the vaccine, it could be anything'

This is the sort of shutting down of discussion you saw every day on the covid boards.

Dr John Campbell was the darling of MN covid boards early on - he said it as it was, he interpreted data, he explained why the great Barrington declaration was misguided - he was recommended and shared an awful lot.
Then he slowly started asking the questions that others were asking, and he quickly became a pariah, a crank, a sell out, posters were very keen to be derogatory about his qualifications - “he’s not really a dr you know…”

Similar with Aseem Malhotra - very highly thought of cardiologist, spoke out about keto (in line with many other drs finding it to be effective for weight loss and managing certain conditions), spoke out about his fears of the vaccine from seeing his own patients - rather than there being an open discussion it was immediately discredited, if you google him now he’s a “controversial cardiologist”.

Same with many other qualified medics.

I’m no antivaxxer but the behaviour of posters like this is so confusing and makes me question the vaccines more than I would if normal discussions were allowed to take place. Why can’t it be discussed?

It hasn't derailed my life at all BTW, mad assumptions ha.

The red flags were everywhere, weren't they? So many contradictions.

The fact that Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine were smeared, even though they are drugs with an excellent safety profile, was the biggest red flag for me. Describing Ivermectin as "horse paste" is the equivalent of describing drinking water as "engine coolant." This is the power of propaganda.

Experienced and prestigious doctors worldwide who spoke up and tried to raise the alarm about all of this were hassled by the medical council (some lost their licenses), censored, and had their names dragged through the mud by the mainstream media.

There was no scientific consensus whatsoever on COVID and how to treat it, yet the media pretended that there was. And now we have the carnage of vaccine injuries (yes, loved ones of mine have suffered from this - they didn't listen to me and took the vaccine, as was their right).

I met one who said coke cola company was poisoning us all and so was McDonald’s

Yup, I agree with every word you say, trust the experts.. But not those experts. The numbers lead John Campbell to where he is. I mean he is only mildly skeptical tbh, he's not exactly David icke, but still people denigrate for no reason.

There are doctors all over the world who were speaking up, and many others who remained quiet because of intimidation/fear.

Most doctors and nurses are people of good will who take their vocation seriously. I know two nurses who didn't take the vaccine, and they both feel that when the reality hits of how dangerous this vaccine is, and how unnecessary (given the therapeutics that were suppressed), that it will cause mental breakdowns in some healthcare professionals who did as instructed and "trusted the science" (or so-called science - whose science?) and "believed everything the WHO said."

And then there is the remdesivir protocol, which will be winding its way through the courts.

What a nightmare this has been.

If you research UFP (ultra processed foods) you will find that McDonalds and coke being very bad for your health is by no means a fringe opinion.

Why don't the conspiracy theorists on this thread actually care about real shit that happens in this world? If you're so interested in corruption and cover ups why aren't you talking about refugee children that are trafficked. I can't begin to even explain what these dc go through. Or the gov ministers that are making so much money from having shares in energy companies whilst we're all being ripped off? Or how supermarkets screw farmers? Or any of the real issues we face today? I don't understand why the real children who are being exploited don't get a look in? Can one of you please explain it to me?

Well technically they’re right aren’t they?

Or plastics! Or UPF! Or any of the real things that are terrible for us! Or the lack of community, that there isn't enough affordable housing, Grenfell and safe housing. There are so many awful things that are really happening but hey MK ultra is much more interesting.. it's a fantasy world.

There was another dr (can’t remember his name) trying to work out why so many people were marked as covid deaths when they’d died in completely unrelated ways.

Friend of Dsis is still trying to have covid taken of their father’s death certificate - he died in a car accident. Another relative took their own life and it was reported on the death certificate as covid. Millions have died - but having seen first hand the fudging of numbers, how accurate is it?

This probably won't be believed by you but I work with UASC children. This is the reality in our own country and yet there's nothing about it! https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/11/home-office-faces-legal-action-over-children-missing-from-uk-asylum-hotels

"real shit that happens in this world" - I question the capacity for empathy of anyone who is so utterly dismissive of vaccine death/vaccine injury. You come across as extremely callous and disingenous. With that said, I will bite on one:

Trafficking of children? There is nothing more evil. Yet the mainstream media in the main dismisses this as a "conspiracy theory." Take a look at their smear job regarding "Sound of Freedom." Any thoughts?

That was for Titicacacandle

I have lost a few friends to this, all female, all shortly after spending more time online (not just during covid)

There were huge financial incentives in U.S. hospitals to mark a death as "COVID," regardless of the facts, including comorbities.

But there’s a huge difference in the bonkers theories like birds not being real, flat earth etc, and real life things that are affecting us all but cannot be discussed?

At one point the Hillsborough disaster was a closed off topic, those who tried to speak out were ridiculed. Thank god they kept going.

Supermarkets screwing farmers comes up a lot in certain areas of SM, and tends to be derailed by vegan agenda’d posters.
Supermarkets screwing pretty much all their suppliers is another biggie, but you can’t get fat discussing that.

Too many people shy away from very real issues that affect people.

Mk ultra was real though . So was giving black Americans syphilis to see what happened, do you thing their wacky shit just stopped? Bernays, propoganda? Seriously.