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Is he lying? Tw dv

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Thedancingflower · 30/07/2023 04:52

I've been dating a friend from uni who I lost contact with and met again during the last year. He told me he had left an abusive relationship as his girlfriend used to hit him, bully him and she stole from him. He said he was arrested for harassment as he tried to get his stolen items back, namely a huge sum of money and she accused him of abuse.

My worry is something doesn't add up. Over the last year he has revealed small bits that to me make me believe he is lying and he is the abuser. The things are:

He said they were constantly off/ on again.
He said she banned him from talking to me and another girl however since dating I've noticed he does talk about all his female friends excessively and tells me he fancies them. I think he did the same with this girl and she must have felt uncomfortable.
He said she had mental health issue (all his exes do).
He mentioned when she hit him he had to restrain her once and he has evidence of her hitting him as he had bruises all down his back.
When they split he sent her things such as food she liked and this huge sum of money was sent after the split. To me it feels like he was trying to maintain contact.
He told me part of the arrest was she had a ring doorbell which had broken and he picked it up and put in his pocket. My gut is she bought this post split for safety reasons and when he realised it was there he tried to break it and steal to conceal evidence.
He doesn't seem upset over arrest and like its almost an achievement to tick off.
Accused her brother of constantly interfering and ruinig relationship but I think he was trying to protect her?
He also said they never officially split and he was just ghosted. More consistent with someone fleeing isn't it?
His arrest was over a year ago and still no conclusion.
He got jealous when she had a photo with a male friend (he told me this).
When we reconnected platonically to start with he said never say never about them dating again (way before I dated him).
She tried to get out of a moving car more than once.

I've seen small bits of behaviour with me that worry me. He is very clingy, ignores me if I don't do what he likes, makes back handed compliments about my looks and constantly accused me of cheating. He talks constantly about other women sexually but ets jealous if I mention a man platonically and accuses me of flirting.

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Thedancingflower · 01/08/2023 20:57

He has a history of struggling to let relationships go. I did try to leave a couple of months ago and he pestered. Not so much this time. How do I proceed with him? I don't want my stuff but feel he will forever use it as a means to turn up.

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TossacointoHenryCavill · 01/08/2023 21:42

Going silent is likely a good sign. You want him to get bored and move on to something or someone else. Did you tell him you don’t want any further communication? That’s important. If you’ve done that and he continues you can then ask Police for advice about whether his behavior has crossed over into harrassment or stalking.
If you’re worried about your safety now, then absolutely take some steps to keep yourself safe. You could stay with friends or family for a few days if you’re worried he’ll turn up at your home and potentially hurt you. You could call women’s aid for advice, they know all about this stuff. Even if he wasn’t abusive to your during your relationship, if you don’t feel safe now then you can absolutely start getting advice from domestic abusive services.

Thedancingflower · 01/08/2023 21:51

I do worry this is him wanting to have his last little exertion of control. He isn't happy I've left.

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/08/2023 10:20

I'd get the Ring and an internal camera to place in the window - sounds like he's learned that you can't argue with video evidence, so if he turns up and sees them, if he's got half an ounce of self preservation, he'll realise you aren't playing and stay away after that.

Thedancingflower · 02/08/2023 20:50

He asked for proof he said the things I mentioned and if I provide proof he'll apologise.

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MotherofTerriers · 02/08/2023 21:04

He's trying to draw you back in to a dialogue - it didn't happen, or if it did happen it wasn't that bad, or you are over-reacting.
Just ignore, or if you want to reply say no need to apologise, you wish him well but its over

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/08/2023 21:06

Oh, don't respond to him at all.

TransitDays · 02/08/2023 21:07

He said she had mental health issue (all his exes do). 🏃🏻‍♀️ 🏃🏻‍♀️ 🏃🏻‍♀️

justdrink · 02/08/2023 21:13

MotherofTerriers · 02/08/2023 21:04

He's trying to draw you back in to a dialogue - it didn't happen, or if it did happen it wasn't that bad, or you are over-reacting.
Just ignore, or if you want to reply say no need to apologise, you wish him well but its over

This. I would block him

Cherrysoup · 02/08/2023 21:17

Why haven’t you just blocked him? You don’t want your stuff back, ignore him and crack on.

EbiRaisukaree · 02/08/2023 21:26

Just block his number, forget him and move on. Entering into any sort of dialogue has no benefit to you - so don’t do it! You’d just be playing into his hands.

Be free.

TossacointoHenryCavill · 03/08/2023 02:26

Is he sending message after message that you’re not replying to or are you replying? If you’re replying you need to stop. If you’ve now got a big string of pleading/scary/weird/whatever messages then you can start asking police for advice on whether this is harassment and what to do (report to non-emergency line).

Temporaryname158 · 03/08/2023 02:52

You’ve told him in writing to post the items but make sure you have put into writing not to contact you. Then call the police every time he does giving the back ground to them if the other girlfriend.

he is a serious abuser. You don’t want him to apologise so you don’t need to give him proof, you need him gone.

install a ring doorbell and mention to neighbours about weird ex and ask them to keep an eye out and call police if they see anyone hanging round the property

Thedancingflower · 05/08/2023 21:12

I've cut ties. He's admitted he knows I don't want to meet but wants to drop my stuff off so he can see me. I did get drawn in and sent him proof and he said I'm lying.

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LetsPutTheKettleOn · 06/08/2023 10:06

Why are you still engaging with him at this point? You want out and he has to accept that. Why send him "proof"? Cut the cord.

CurlewKate · 06/08/2023 10:09

He's lying. Never, ever believe the "crazy ex girlfriend" narrative. Not worth the risk.
(Make sure you're using effective contraception that you are in control of.)

NeverDropYourMooncup · 06/08/2023 10:18

Thedancingflower · 05/08/2023 21:12

I've cut ties. He's admitted he knows I don't want to meet but wants to drop my stuff off so he can see me. I did get drawn in and sent him proof and he said I'm lying.

That was always going to happen.

I hope that 'cut ties' means you've blocked him and ordered a camera for when he turns up. It does, doesn't it?

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