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Is he lying? Tw dv

67 replies

Thedancingflower · 30/07/2023 04:52

I've been dating a friend from uni who I lost contact with and met again during the last year. He told me he had left an abusive relationship as his girlfriend used to hit him, bully him and she stole from him. He said he was arrested for harassment as he tried to get his stolen items back, namely a huge sum of money and she accused him of abuse.

My worry is something doesn't add up. Over the last year he has revealed small bits that to me make me believe he is lying and he is the abuser. The things are:

He said they were constantly off/ on again.
He said she banned him from talking to me and another girl however since dating I've noticed he does talk about all his female friends excessively and tells me he fancies them. I think he did the same with this girl and she must have felt uncomfortable.
He said she had mental health issue (all his exes do).
He mentioned when she hit him he had to restrain her once and he has evidence of her hitting him as he had bruises all down his back.
When they split he sent her things such as food she liked and this huge sum of money was sent after the split. To me it feels like he was trying to maintain contact.
He told me part of the arrest was she had a ring doorbell which had broken and he picked it up and put in his pocket. My gut is she bought this post split for safety reasons and when he realised it was there he tried to break it and steal to conceal evidence.
He doesn't seem upset over arrest and like its almost an achievement to tick off.
Accused her brother of constantly interfering and ruinig relationship but I think he was trying to protect her?
He also said they never officially split and he was just ghosted. More consistent with someone fleeing isn't it?
His arrest was over a year ago and still no conclusion.
He got jealous when she had a photo with a male friend (he told me this).
When we reconnected platonically to start with he said never say never about them dating again (way before I dated him).
She tried to get out of a moving car more than once.

I've seen small bits of behaviour with me that worry me. He is very clingy, ignores me if I don't do what he likes, makes back handed compliments about my looks and constantly accused me of cheating. He talks constantly about other women sexually but ets jealous if I mention a man platonically and accuses me of flirting.

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Penguinsmum · 01/08/2023 03:56

Don't you deserve better than this? He sounds horrible.

Penguinsmum · 01/08/2023 03:56

Good for you!

Thedancingflower · 01/08/2023 04:05

It's just worrying me now the reluctance to post via mail and he wants to do it himself whilst I'm not there? It seems weird and I don't know why. He doesn't have a key or anything and I feel uncomfortable him being at my home now. I've said more thsn once not to do it himself.

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Hiddenmnetter · 01/08/2023 05:05

I don’t usually post on these threads but yeah he’s trying to get his claws into you. Him not wanting to post or chuck your stuff is just a way of trying to maintain contact when you’ve broken it. Well done for taking decisive action. And yes, entirely besides the point but I think almost certainly you’re right about his behaviour/lying in previous relationships.

honeyandfizz · 01/08/2023 06:15

Block him now then and have no further interaction with him.

Coffeesnob11 · 01/08/2023 06:21

Tell him by text specifically you don't want any further contact with him and then dont answer anything. The charges against him are probably no further action which doesn't mean he is innocent just that the cps don't want to take it forward which is common. Lots of abusers claim they were abused. Look up Darvo. Well done for ending it so quickly.

Grrrpredictivetex · 01/08/2023 06:29

Well done and stay strong. Don't let him into your home as a friend of mine in a similar situation found her ex had bugged her flat and had a camera to watch her. Don't trust him anywhere near you.

Justleaveitblankthen · 01/08/2023 06:31

Good on you for dumping him.

Whatever you do, you need to end his ridiculous notion of coming to your house with your stuff when you are not there. 🤨

Unless it's something precious, I would tell him thanks, but there is no need and you have already replaced the items.

The you need to close the communication.

Get a ring camera as soon as you can.

WilkinsonM · 01/08/2023 06:36

How is he planning to drop your stuff if he doesn't have a key? Are you sure he doesn't?

Thedancingflower · 01/08/2023 07:00

No key all I left was a necklace and earrings. Not valuable or sentimental. Could easily fit in a jiffy bag. I told him in writing to post via royal mail or leave it completely. He physically cannot get in my house but its my home. Why would cps not take it forward when it's a dv accusation?

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billy1966 · 01/08/2023 07:32

Well done OP.

Ring 101 and ask for advice.

He's an abuser and will be quickly on to his next victim.

Be very wary.

Give the police a ring.

Hiddenmnetter · 01/08/2023 07:35

They might not take it further because they think there’s little chance of a successful prosecution. Our legal system is designed as “rather 100 guilty men go free than one innocent man end up in gaol” rather than the other way around. Which means the presumption of innocence and the burden of proof is very high. It doesn’t matter what they think has happened, it matters what they can prove.

EbiRaisukaree · 01/08/2023 07:41

Thedancingflower · 01/08/2023 04:05

It's just worrying me now the reluctance to post via mail and he wants to do it himself whilst I'm not there? It seems weird and I don't know why. He doesn't have a key or anything and I feel uncomfortable him being at my home now. I've said more thsn once not to do it himself.

I’ll bet you anything he does have a key, copied without you knowing. Can you get the front door lock changed before you go away? I would do that and add a ring type doorbell or camera, to head off any funny business before he has a chance to start.

Campervangirl · 01/08/2023 07:44

Well done for ending it!
You're right not to let him return your jewelry, don't be alone with him under any circumstances.
Keep your wits about you when leaving or returning home and if he turns up don't try to go in your house, walk away, go to a pub, shop or a neighbour and ask for help.
Ignore any messages from now on but save them and if he issues any threats go straight to the police
Be careful ❤️

Iwaskitty · 01/08/2023 07:49

Well done. About the necklace - he's just trying to engage. It's all about keeping contact and control in his head.

Just block him. Don't try and second guess what he's doing, because it is all games. Block and ignore.

Olika · 01/08/2023 08:14

Stay away from him! By the sound of it he is the abuser. In no circumstance should be come anywhere near your house.

Hibiscrubbed · 01/08/2023 08:14

he's just trying to engage. It's all about keeping contact and control in his head.

This is exactly it. He’s trying to force contact with you. He thinks if he can, he can wheedle his way back in and gain control of the situation, and you again.

He’ll feel most aggrieved that you have ended the relationship and it’s put you in control.

Turfwars · 01/08/2023 13:37

He's insisting on coming over with the trinkets to scope out if you have another man (in his head you must do because that's the only reason you would dump him) or he's going to try to win you back with a big spiel about how wrong you are about him. Or he has a key you don't know about and wants to snoop.
Stay firm and clear by text saying that you do NOT want him at your door. If you say "FFS ok fine, come around" then he takes that as permission to accost you.

In any case, even if he's totally innocent of all the stuff he was accused of, just the stuff he says to you is more than enough to dump him.

Good radar you have there OP.

Thedancingflower · 01/08/2023 17:03

He's ignoring me now.

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Thedancingflower · 01/08/2023 18:09

In thr last day I've had a full character assassinating saying I'm a liar and I started all of this. He is silent now. Is that a concern? What should I do next? I've said he can throw my things in writing so he is covered. I thought he was trying to orchestra a meeting but why insist on doing it when I'm not there?

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Merapi · 01/08/2023 18:14

Oh dear. If this continues, I think you're going to have to report him to the police for harassment.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 01/08/2023 18:19

Thedancingflower · 01/08/2023 18:09

In thr last day I've had a full character assassinating saying I'm a liar and I started all of this. He is silent now. Is that a concern? What should I do next? I've said he can throw my things in writing so he is covered. I thought he was trying to orchestra a meeting but why insist on doing it when I'm not there?

Because he'll be lurking around your home repeatedly, then if he gets caught, he produces your necklace and earrings, saying 'I was just returning these!'. He'll have them in his pocket for months.

Time for a Ring camera of your own. And maybe an internal one, too, so it can't have an 'accident'.

MissHarrietBede · 01/08/2023 18:23

@NeverDropYourMooncup Christ! that's terrifying. A well known stalkers ploy?

NeverDropYourMooncup · 01/08/2023 18:27

MissHarrietBede · 01/08/2023 18:23

@NeverDropYourMooncup Christ! that's terrifying. A well known stalkers ploy?

Plausible deniability. See also Returning Things Bit by Bit/Is This Yours?, Just Passing Through, Fancy a Coffee, I've Got Some Sad News and We Need To Have Closure.

MissHarrietBede · 01/08/2023 18:42

Ah yes, I get it now. "I'm only here because.........."

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