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Sulky DH

52 replies

creativeusername23 · 08/07/2023 19:31

Has anyone dealt with a partner or DH who goes into an almighty sulk when, god forbid, their home life means they cannot make an occasion with their friends or can’t fully partake? One who turns it around on you to make out you’re purposely trying to stop them?

Late last year, I was heavily pregnant and suffering with PGP. I could barely walk on a day DH was scheduled to go out drinking and asked him to please stay at home to help look after our then 2 YO. He insinuated I was making it up to stop him going, spent ages stomping around the house saying his head had gone and at one point bellowed so loud he made our DS cry. He then ended up going anyway and ignored me all night asking him to please come home to help or at least compromise and come home slightly earlier than planned due to the pain.

Throughout our time together, DH has gone on ‘lad’ holidays abroad and the many nights out/meeting for coffees etc, so he is not a deprived person by any means. Out of his friends, only 2 others have children and both only have 1, whereas we now have 2 (5 month old DD).

DD has been extremely difficult since birth, CMPA/reflux which showed up as constant screaming for hours on end, day after day which nearly broke me. Shouldering constant appointments and trying to log her symptoms to get anything done as well as having a pulmonary embolism a few weeks after birth. The constant crying seems to have done something to me where when she cries for any period of time, I go into complete freeze and panic mode and whilst I can still function to care for her, I’m constantly on edge, terrified she’s going to cry again and get us back to that place. I spend most days crying and thinking there’s no point.

My MH at the moment is awful (waiting for appointments to try and get better) and a couple of days ago, I had an absolute breakdown with it almost. Feeling like a failure of a parent, wondering why I can’t just cope. Trigger points for extra crying are bedtime or having both children together as I get frustrated and guilty splitting my time and worrying their development will be hindered (DS does go to preschool which helps).

Anyway, there have been plans for another lad holiday near the end of the year for a few nights in Benidorm. I’m on SMP so we won’t be having a family holiday this year. I booked DH a place and paid for it because I didn’t think I could deal with the feeling bad if he ‘couldn’t’ go and cheap and cheerful few nights is far less than a family holiday.
They’ve now all decided in their group chat, that they need to have an evening meet up to ‘discuss’ the trip, that isn’t happening until the end of the year. DH gave me a date (a few days time) but no other info and he said it would have to be after bedtime for the children.

Today, group chat has decided a time and place which is at tea/bedtime for the children and 20 mins away.
I told DH okay, if he could help with bedtime first. DH has decided just popping in after helping with bedtime isn’t okay and made a snarky comment that he just won’t go and will cancel, he’s used to it.
I called him out on making a comment and tried to discuss my POV; in return he’s denied it being a snarky comment, told me to piss off in front of DS, shut up multiple times to which he then lied and said I’d told him to so he just repeated it (didn’t happen), told me I’m looking for an argument and that I shouldn’t speak to him if I’m going to try and discuss it. Silent treatment for a good while after. He also told me to, listen to him whilst he’s talking (!) like I was a child. He has shut down any attempts to actually discuss it like adults.

DD is unwell currently and we were only just in hospital yesterday with her terrified she might have meningitis (she’s been discharged and it isn’t, thankfully). That, coupled with my absolute rubbish MH and bedtimes being a difficult time, just means I would really appreciate the support. It’s all very raw at the moment. I haven’t said he can’t go! We don’t have anyone else and I’m facing up that I may have PND for the second time.

Am I really so wrong that I deserve to have rudeness thrown at me for asking him to understand that family is a priority? How do I deal with the ridiculous huffs and making out he’s so hard done to for having a family that means he can’t make every single occasion?

He’s already had a huff this year because he couldn’t go to a stag do in Ireland due to us not having the money, yet that was made out to be me trying to stop him…

OP posts:
MrsSamR · 08/07/2023 19:44

It doesn't help you now of course but I'm struggling to see why you've had a second child with him if you know he's a useless Dad..?

But no you're not asking too much and yes he should be doing more of course. How old is your DH because it sounds like he still wants to run around and be a 22 year old going on lads' holidays and because none of his mates have kids he feels like he's missing out!

Sadly I don't see the situation improving and you're in a difficult position as presumably you rely on him financially. I'd issue him an ultimatum and say he needa to put you and the children first or you're off and start making a plan for getting back to work once your baby is old enough so you can separate. He's doing nothing to help with the kids as is so you wouldn't be losing anything.

I'm sorry OP. It always makes me sad how useless so many men are.

Izzy54321 · 08/07/2023 19:55

Omg you have 3 children not 2. How absolutely awful you sound lovely and you are being made to feel guilty for needing help. I’m sorry your husband is so awful. Maybe it’s time to say enough us enough he is not a single guy without children. He has responsibilities just as you do. I don’t know if you can leave but I would be making long term plans to do just that, he isn’t going to change because he doesn’t want too. I would be worried at the shouting at you In front of your child. I don’t know how old he is but he is acting like a teenager not getting his way. Make plans and keep moving forward I hope that your therapy happens very soon.

creativeusername23 · 08/07/2023 19:56

Thank you for your reply. I’m on maternity leave so I do have a full time job that thankfully pays a decent amount. I just sadly missed out on the full maternity package of my job by a few weeks, hence only SMP.
At the moment he is covering a lot financially where I can’t but, I would have money once my leave ends.

He was less sulky before we had our DD. All of this seems to have exacerbated within my second pregnancy and her being born. Things like being obsessive about watching football and cricket matches to the point he demands the children should be put to bed earlier to facilitate him watching it, saying he can’t do anything else (like bedtime) as he wants to watch it or sneaking downstairs halfway through bedtime to be catching more of it.

He’s 29, not far off 30, the same as me. The house is in dire need of a proper clean rather than just a going over but he won’t do it unless I partake too which is difficult at the moment with how I feel. It’s really frustrating as when you have children in my eyes, you can’t just be so readily available and he only saw most of them the other day at a function.

OP posts:
creativeusername23 · 08/07/2023 19:58

@Izzy54321 Thank you, that was kind of you to say.
I dread every time there might be a gathering or plan happen in that WhatsApp group because if it can’t happen for whatever reason, it will somehow be me just trying to stop him going, rather than a valid reason.

He actually has a really ‘responsible’ job as such which is frustrating as I wonder what they’d make of someone who refuses to do their own ironing as they ‘can’t’ and has huffs if they can’t behave like a 20 year old just discovering alcohol for the first time.

OP posts:
endofthelinefinally · 08/07/2023 19:59

You need to leave him. Your mental health will improve, your children and you will benefit from not having to deal with him and the stress he causes.
Do you have any other support? Friends? Family? It is so bad for children growing up with a parent like this.

PaigeMatthews · 08/07/2023 20:00

He is selfish. Silent treatment is abusive. Lying about what you have said is heading towards gaslighting, and more abuse. Basically, he is awful.

PaigeMatthews · 08/07/2023 20:02

stop doing his ironing. Stop treating him like a child. is he doing his share of cooking in the evenings? Is he doing any cleaning at all? Have you ever been away from the children?

Northernsouloldies · 08/07/2023 20:03

You might as well be a single mum. He really needs to grow up, lads holidays really and when do you get a break, let me guess... Never.

Northernsouloldies · 08/07/2023 20:03

You might as well be a single mum. He really needs to grow up, lads holidays really and when do you get a break, let me guess... Never.

Jongleterre · 08/07/2023 20:10

Why did he get married or have children as it seems like he views having a family as being an albatross around his neck!

I couldn't put up with a man that sulks, he sounds absolutely pathetic.

QueenFree · 08/07/2023 20:17

Honestly, I think he doesn't know what a great partner he has. You can do so much better than this, OP.

I'm sorry he reacts like this with you. Having two young children is really hard work. You're doing amazingly and I truly hope he starts to realise this.

Have you considered couples counselling?

I can imagine if you voiced all of this openly to a third party I hope he would feel very embarrassed with his behaviour. On the other hand he doesn't sound like someone who can easily take accountability for his actions.

THisbackwithavengeance · 08/07/2023 20:23

I think your mental health would improve massively if you didn't have him around in a mood, sulking and being nasty whilst you walk around on eggshells.

East to say LTB but he sounds very unpleasant.

Do you want to continue in the relationship?

Mumtothreegirlies · 08/07/2023 20:30

He doesn’t sound like much of a ‘partner’ and I’m sorry but I wouldn’t have relationship with a fully grown man who still wanted to go on lads holidays and had a stink on if he couldn’t go out.
lads holidays are for drinking and meeting women. You deserve better.

FofB · 08/07/2023 20:31

I'm not going to say LTB. However, in 4,5,6 years time, are you going to be happy for him to treat you like that in front of your children?

Sometimes you just have to 'get through' difficult parts of your life- then do something to fix/change it. At the moment, you just need to get through this difficult time. Once you are back at work, you need to have a think about the future. You are doing your best at the moment- that's all any of us can do. Sending you an internet hug.

RandomMess · 08/07/2023 20:42

Have you any family that you can either go stay with or that can come visit and help?

I'm not sure you marriage can survive with such a man child.

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Izzy54321 · 08/07/2023 21:36

He is treating you so badly and I understand that even thinking about parting is scary and you would worry about being alone with 2 children but honestly you are doing a great job now without much help from your husband. The shouting, lying and gaslighting is horrible to be faced with. Honestly give yourself some time to organise and plan your exit as I don’t think he will change and his attitude towards you and his children is awful. It doesn’t have to be tomorrow but I would definitely be making a plan.

1980to1989 · 08/07/2023 22:11

OP, at no point did I read about any time you get for a break.

When are you booking a few nights away with the girls?

I'm so sorry to say that your husband sounds selfish and cruel. Is this behaviour from him what you want for yourself and your children moving forwards? The tantrums because he can't go out to play with the boys... How unattractive.

Perhaps your husband is negatively contributing factor to your mental health?

Definitely, definitely, make sure you get a break, and soon.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 08/07/2023 22:15

He's not going to change

You need to decide whether you want this to be your life

RachelTopliss · 08/07/2023 22:23

He's sounding like a really nasty piece of work. So self centred.

MrsElsa · 08/07/2023 22:34

His behaviour is abusive.

No father would stomp and shout at doing bedtime, ESPECIALLY not when their partner is ill.

I feel sorry for you and the DC. He is abusing you and them.

midlifecrash · 08/07/2023 22:40

You PAID for his holiday in Benidorm without you and the children- why? He just seems to go on like a 13 year old asked to clean his room. Don’t act like his downtrodden mum.

45387pob · 08/07/2023 22:44

Listen to me. I've been married for 36 years and my husband has never treated me in such a disrespectful, selfish and entitled way. Our marriage is far from perfect but my husband has always prioritised our children and me, despite running his own business. I have always known that he would do anything for us.

We're grandparents now and he's just the same with our DGC, as am I.

You are wasting your precious time with this man child. Cut yourself loose and you'll have one less child to worry about. A phrase I learned on MN when I first came here is "we teach others how to treat us". What are you teaching your twat of a husband?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 08/07/2023 22:52

He sounds absolutely awful and selfish and useless.
This has given me a glimpse at what life would be like if I hadn't broken up with selfish ex at 8 months pregnant and my situation now (also 5mo baby) seems rosy in comparison to yours. I'm so sorry! I hope your baby's health improves and I hope you can set some boundaries with or leave this man. I'd definitely be withdrawing any financial support for that holiday and using it for a spa day for myself instead.

PoliticallyIncorrectHitchling · 08/07/2023 23:04

Hope you are not planning on having any more of this idiots children. You are a single mum anyway, so why not just leave him? What is he bringing to the table? I cant see if he has a single redeeming feature.

SquigglyGum · 08/07/2023 23:10

I don't say this often, but LTB. What is he contributing to family life? If it's only £ then you'll get some of that in maintenance payments, and you can at least avoid all his nasty behaviour. He is not showing you love, respect or anything remotely like he wants to be in a relationship with you. Listen to him. Don't make this your life.

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