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New partner, but his situation is a tad tricky and making me stand back!

109 replies

Pippa2017 · 06/06/2023 09:09

Hello,

I am really looking for advice really, to see what you all think on this situation, I think I am being reasonable as putting myself first, but wanting to see what you thought too on his situation also and its not quite fair on myself.

Im in my late forties, met this lovely guy who is the same age, a good few months ago , beginning of the year etc. He has a 11 year old son, and is separated, was married for 24 years and separated 3 years ago. His mum died within those 3 years and he admitted he didnt do anything about the divorce for fear of losing his son and also not in a good place re his mum passing.

The wife still lives in the home, whilst he is renting in a 2 bed flat about 10 mins away and sees his son 2/3 times a week, but nothing has been confirmed on when he sees his son.... its just as and when really. Not quite started the divorce proceedings (this worried me) as wanting to make sure he sorts out the house which he is due money from (hence not sorted) and also to make sure he doesnt lose anything with his son too. His wife earns a lot more money, and thankfully now has a new partner she is hoping to move in with, later this year, coincidentally lives about 20mins near me I have met him and he seems nice, met her, whilst picking up the son one time and hmmm not exactly the nicest or most approachable but it is what it is.

Apparently the house is going on the market this week. Now this could take months to sell, for him to get his money he is due, no solicitor is involved here and not too sure when or what will happen to the little boy, he admitted to being lazy about this as nothing has changed/shifted in 3 years. Thats a long time!! This man however with me is incredibly sweet, does everything for me, loves how he makes me feel, but my head has come out of the romantic/emotional energy here and shifted into a more practical, lets focus on what is going on place.

I feel I have kind of become more distant/harsher and realistic about this and he thinks I am being harsh and keeps saying, It feels to me like you want someone else, I said no, its more your situation is a kind of mess at present as I have nothing lurking here with exes/divorce/house/children and you must be able to see this is not fair on me at present, hence just looking at things a little different now. I have to look after myself.

The house I own, is currently going to be changing in october as mortgage rates are going up, he suggested moving in end of this year when his divorce is finalised/house sold, I said no, not whilst you are going through this and with your son etc..... nothing has been finalised, divorced or anything yet, maybe look at this, when that has been confirmed and we can look at this again, whenever, also when we are more established too as in next year/etc etc....but I cant do anything with him until I get an idea on what his situation is doing. This makes me feel insecure/nervous! I am at present sorting out my house myself with other rates.

I also have a lovely social life with my running, whereas he doesnt have friends he sees regularly, he use to play golf but not anymore, his passions are the gym and paddle boarding which is lovely just not with others etc. He is a very happy go lucky guy, lovely caring personality, but I feel for me he has not taken his situation seriously which he has admitted and I am the complete opposite, he says since meeting me its giving him the kick he has needed but I was hoping he didnt need me to give him this, he should be doing this for himself. I have, what feels like changed him. I understand everything costs money, but would I be losing out and would this create stress for me is what i am always thinking whilst waiting for him to sort himself out.

Also I havent a clue, moving forwards when they do sell the house (only just going on the market) what happens to the son, if he was to move into my house, is the son then moving in 3/4 times a week too whilst living with his ex and her new partner and his 2 kids? So you can understand all of a sudden a few months in, my energy has somewhat shifted and I am no longer in this highly romantic passionate phase or rose coloured glasses!!

He has a good job however, doing well, setting up his own business on the side too and yes if he was to move in with me anytime this year, after his divorce/gets his money etc, he would gain, however its also the child here I am thinking of too and I would need to address this. When you dont have children yourself, all of a sudden life changes and lifestyle changes with someone else to think about etc which is also where my head is at....So I am just taking things very very slowly, any help/suggestions? Thank you for reading....greatly appreciated as its very long too and hopefully you havent fallen asleep.

OP posts:
LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 06/06/2023 10:25

This is very much like a case of 'Mummy fix it'. He's far too lazy considering he has a son to care for but then again, his wife is doing all the heavy lifting there.

Read Netcam's post. That's the way to do it. It's good that you're saying 'No!'. Keep saying it. Let him sort himself out however he wants and then see where you are when everything has been resolved, under his steam.

Mirabai · 06/06/2023 10:26

Once his divorce is finalised and house sale complete then you can revisit the living together question. But not before.

TheoTheopolis23 · 06/06/2023 10:31

he thinks it is ok to suggest moving in with you, after such a short relationship, when he is still married and when he has a child to consider.

Yeah I thought this too.

Kinda easy for him "oh I'll just move in with you, you'll keep me".

TheoTheopolis23 · 06/06/2023 10:32

This is very much like a case of 'Mummy fix it'

Lol.
What an excellent (and relevant) phrase.

Lougle · 06/06/2023 10:34

@awimbawaaay doesn't you still being married mean that you are tied financially, though?

Lougle · 06/06/2023 10:34

Personally @Pippa2017 it sounds messy all around and I think that you'd be wise to take things very slowly.

Izzy24 · 06/06/2023 10:35

TheoTheopolis23 · 06/06/2023 10:32

This is very much like a case of 'Mummy fix it'

Lol.
What an excellent (and relevant) phrase.

And maybe why he’s not with his wife any longer? And why she wasn’t particularly friendly when you met?

She had enough..?

Nothingisblackandwhite · 06/06/2023 10:37

Do not go into a relationship with anyone still legally married . Just don’t do it

pinkyredrose · 06/06/2023 10:38

Why are you so concerned about his situation and kid? You're just dating, enjoy his company and let him sort his own life out.

Willyoujustbequiet · 06/06/2023 10:39

Way too fast.

He doesn't sound like a good father. He sounds like he can't be arsed and expects women to pick up his slack.

It's perfectly possible the child may live with you full time at some point. You need to ask yourself if you are OK with that as if not its really unfair on the child.

TheOrigRights · 06/06/2023 10:39

The ball is in his court.
How he sorts his divorce and house out will give you a good idea whether he's the person you should invest in.

AngelinaFibres · 06/06/2023 10:40

Happy go lucky people are generally a PITA to be involved with when anything really matters.I shall be very happy to never hear the phrase " chill, it'll all work out. Don't worry about it" ever again in my life.

2bazookas · 06/06/2023 10:45

It sounds like you're far more concerned for/interested in his son's comfort and future than the father is.

You are NOT a step parent. The son has a mother, he is not your responsibility; if New Man is so well paid he can afford a place of his own. When he can be bothered to organise a future for his son.

Of course he is lovely and kind to you because you are what every cocklodger wants; a free home and live in housekeeper/nanny with sex. He'll be sweet to keep you sweet right up until the moment you turn him down

he thinks I am being harsh and keeps saying, It feels to me like you want someone else

uh -oh. the first cracks are showing.

Wishimaywishimight · 06/06/2023 10:47

I think you should just relax and enjoy being with him, just as you would with any boyfriend of a few months.

Let him deal with his divorce, his wife, his house and his child. None of this is really any of the business of a relatively new girlfriend.

Definitely don't let him move into your house though.

SheilaFentiman · 06/06/2023 10:48

Agree with others

BeverlyHa · 06/06/2023 10:50

He is still married and involved with his to be honest, one and only real family....i wonder what do you even do here

LadyJ2023 · 06/06/2023 10:51

A non divorced person has always been a no go for me. As regards your life it sounds like you had a lovely one so be careful you don't end up him moving in and next thing your paying everything etc. Realistically 5 months is very short. Make sure you think with your head not your heart.

ShimmeringShirts · 06/06/2023 10:56

Well yes, his son would need to stay at your home too if his dad moved in. You can’t banish his son, and if you grudge sharing your home with a child then this is not the relationship for you. Everything else is just background noise, he’s getting divorced and the house is on the market, that’ll all be resolved over the course of a year.

billy1966 · 06/06/2023 10:56

OP, your boyfriend my happy go lucky is a lazy arse who would love to move him and his child into your cosy set up.

Do you actually want to parent two children?

One man child and 11 year old?🙄

I have no doubt he is keen on you and thinks that looks just perfect for us.

However nice he is, he is absolutely someone who can spot what will work for him.

"There is no man as loving as one who fancies moving into YOUR home".

I have no doubt you will be left to cook, clean, shop, laundry for the two of them.

Is THAT really what you want?

It gets old really really quickly.

Your life and freedom would be hugely curtailed.

Not a chance at your age would I allow such drama and effort near my life.

Keep seeing him as a boyfriend if you like but completely knock on the head ANY suggestion of becoming mummy to the pair of them.

See him when he hasn't got his child and protect your lovely life.

His house sale and divorce are nothing to do with you.

Don't be surprised if he cools his jets when he realises your home if completely off the table!

onlythe · 06/06/2023 10:58

Yanbu I would not even think about getting serious with someone who has not sorted out the divorce and everything else that needs doing. Date but don't live together or combine finances in any way however tempting it might be.

There another thread where the op is basically further down the same path and it has not gone well for her.

Paperbagsaremine · 06/06/2023 10:58

There are two types of boyfriend OP:

One, the actual adult - who can look after themselves perfectly fine

Two, the human companion animal - very affectionate and loving, but can't or don't look after themselves or others to a good standard off their own initiative.

As long as you have your eyes open to this and are honest with yourself either is fine, but you have to accept #2 types for who they are and what they can offer.

Don't waste everyone's time hoping an amiable manchild will magically step up and morph into a grown human.

And don't let them move in or create any financial or legal ties with them.

If you're looking for someone to grow old with and have your back in tough times, let the #2 types go to people who have their own support system and just want a sweet chap who's ok in bed. Stick to the capable blokes.

MrsRachelDanvers · 06/06/2023 11:00

When I met my now dh, I knew it was a proper relationship after about 3 months but we only moved in together after 7 years! The issue was that we both had children and didn’t want to disrupt their lives so we kept our separate places. The kids were fine. If I were you, I wouldn’t want him to move in with me as I’d want him to establish a home for his child first and be settled with him. It doesn’t mean you can’t be in a relationship but he and his child need a home of their own-not moving in with the gf after a few months. He might be lovely but I think you’ll be tearing your hair out if they move into your home-you seem to have quite different life philosophies which can work if you have separate households. If you don’t have children yourself, don’t underestimate how different your life will be-it can be lovely but also clashes-give it a lot more time and don’t move them in just for convenience (on his side).

billy1966 · 06/06/2023 11:01

@2bazookas is correct the cracks are showing with his accusations of you being "harsh"🙄......cos you won't just roll over and let him move in and be his mommy skivvy in your cosy home.

WhutWhutWhut · 06/06/2023 11:01

Rainbowqueeen · 06/06/2023 09:34

You have been dating a very short amount of time.

Way too early to be talking about moving in together. To me there are several red flags
1 he thinks it is ok to suggest moving in with you, after such a short relationship, when he is still married and when he has a child to consider. He is not coming across as a great dad. His son should come first instead of what suits him best
2 romance is great but a future together requires compatibility. I think his attitude to life ie drifting along until a woman takes charge will drive you nuts long term
3 why isn’t he taking active steps to get divorced
4 he doesn’t seem to be listening and respecting what you want. It’s all about him

Id proceed with extreme caution if you do decide to proceed at all

This!
I knew before I read Ops post that he would have suggested "moving in"
What's the saying.
" No one falls in love faster than a man who needs somewhere to live"
🚩 🚩 🚩

Crumpleton · 06/06/2023 11:03

Not quite started the divorce proceedings (this worried me) as wanting to make sure he sorts out the house which he is due money from (hence not sorted)

Surely he'd get on with the divorce and also sort out the financial settlement while it's all going through.