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Not good enough then

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Izbizbiz · 02/06/2023 07:05

I have a question and I’m hoping someone can help.
my partner and I had a chat a while back and I guess I was fishing for compliments/looking for reassurance at the time.
he often talks about how he and his ex weren’t suited and how they shouldn’t have married. Anyway, I can’t remember what prompted the question but I think I was feeling adored by him at that moment and for some reason, I asked- would you have chosen me if we had met earlier. He said no. I quite quickly said- well, maybe not me persay, but someone like me and he said no again.
he asked me if I would have chosen him and i said yes. He’s remained my type.
anyway, it hurt me at the time and it’s festered.
i asked him again yesterday what he meant and he said he was looking to settle down and he got the opinion I wasn’t at that age. I said- I was with the same man from 21 and I was married at 25. All of this he knew. What part of that suggests I wasn’t looking to settle down?
he said- we would have had a lot of fun and enjoyed one another but he chose a quiet girl who didn’t really drink but was clever and wanted to settle down.
ill admit this triggered me because I think you can be all of those things and we went on to talk about being wholesome and the cliché of a girl you would have fun with versus a girl you would take home to your mum. I said something like- no one wants to feel like they aren’t good enough to be taken home to your mum and I think most women would wonder why you would choose to settle down with one person and not the other but be willing to show a totally different type of woman attention. He agreed with me.
i then went on to say - what’s changed in the interim then? I mean, you married the quiet girl, had kids with her and it didn’t work out. Now you are with the party girl. Why is that ok now? He said something like- I’m at a different stage of my life and I’ve learned what I want and I’ve changed.
so, I sat there feeling not really good enough and a bit of a joke.
it did take me back to my younger days and feeling like I’m less than whoever.
also, that I’m not quite his first choice for his life but now he has the house, the car and the children, he doesn’t need the wife to go along with it. I guess I thought I was that wife. To hear I wasn’t hurt me. I know I sound a bit naive.
I think I thought I was everything to him. All of those things he wanted AND good fun, sexual and a party girl. It also makes me see him in a different light, that he chose someone and conformed to societal expectation but was happy to slap it around with different types of girls for fun . I guess many of us do that so maybe I’m unfair.
I think the issue is that he sees I wouldn’t have been the one he would have chosen at the time. So he sees something in me that wouldn’t have ticked that box for him. I wasn’t who he wanted back then. I’ve always thought i would have been, had we met.
I suppose my question is - am I being overly sensitive In not liking how this makes me feel after seeing myself through his eyes? And why do you think he is with me now? Am I just a bit of fun to him but not the respectable and sensible choice he would be proud to marry?
mum in a bit of a quandary.
we do have a lot of fun. We are both incredibly sexual and flirty with one another. Last night we went to bed and I’ll admit, I didn’t want him anywhere near me. I feel like my purpose to him is very different to my understanding now. I think I thought I was this person who ticked all of his boxes but now I feel like he outsourced the ‘respectful’ part and now I’m just here for the part that is a bit seedy and perhaps he’s just using me.
I don’t know.
he says he loves me and is in love with me. I just don’t think that can be the case.
please help 😥

OP posts:
Izbizbiz · 04/06/2023 16:58

I guess I’d be more concerned if she was behaving like that and he wasn’t telling me. He’s not in control of how she behaves afterall.
they do need to have contact with one another as they have a child together

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Izbizbiz · 04/06/2023 17:02

No, I don’t take drugs. Never have.

i actually know his ex and my perception is that she was a woman with her ducks in a row, liked a laugh and knew how to enjoy herself. No bad reputation or good reputation. Just a normal woman imo.

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gardenweed · 05/06/2023 13:52

I'm struggling to make sense of what he's said to you because there's the image of the mousy wholesome girl he says he chose but now regrets choosing. Then there's the confident, sexual woman, albeit a pain in the ass for you, that you're describing now.
These aren't the same woman. Has she changed over the years?
He would have been better just saying yes when you asked him if he would've picked you back then. For the easy life. So, why didn't he choose the easy option? I think he's playing you a little.

Izbizbiz · 05/06/2023 18:31

Yeah, I can’t work it out either.

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Izbizbiz · 05/06/2023 18:39

ive racked my brain and I’ve been trying to work out if it bothers me more that there was a direct comparison and one being acceptable and one not OR the type casting that I’m a type he wouldn’t have found acceptable.
honestly, I think they both bother me but more so if we are similar types and I’m not acceptable. Regardless, I’m not acceptable so not great.

I’ve read everyone’s comments and I do appreciate the responses. Most are saying things that suggest we all change and reevaluate how we feel about people based on our experiences and I should accept that he is happy with me now. It does make me wonder why he’s still holding her in a position of wholesome/quiet and mousy and I’m a loud party girl but I guess as long as he wants me and not her regardless then it doesn’t matter.

i think he wanted to be transparent when he answered the question but I’m not sure why he didn’t just adopt the perspective he has now to the question rather than type casting me but I actually don’t know why I asked the question in the first place if I was feeling so adored by him at the time.

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 07/06/2023 12:30

A lesson we could all probably learn something from.

Don't fish for compliments!

FrenchandSaunders · 07/06/2023 12:48

The ex sounds a nightmare!

I sometimes think DH and I don’t have deep enough conversations …. but reading this maybe that’s a good thing 😂

Climbles · 07/06/2023 13:35

The lesson here is don’t ask stupid questions and if you’re asked a stupid question lie!

Izbizbiz · 08/06/2023 20:35

We are all different I guess. I just know that after being with someone for 14 ish years, I left not knowing how he felt about me, his body count, what made him tick and mostly … who he was. I vowed to never have a superficial relationship again.
Ive maybe over compensated for that and gone the opposite way and couple that with insecurities, I’m probably a nightmare.

I don’t want him to lie. I’d far rather be hurt than be lied to. I just need to learn what’s important and what’s not 🙈

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PaintedEgg · 09/06/2023 10:19

@Izbizbiz could it be that he holds her in his mind as quiet and mousy because this is how he perceives her? there is a version of us that lives in the heads of other people and we'd be very surprised to meet this person

which is why you may see like a loud party girl to him - but he clearly likes this image, however true you think it is

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