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I’m screwed aren’t I?

69 replies

DancingLights · 31/05/2023 06:43

I’ve name changed for this as I’ve posted before and I think previous posts could identify me with friends.

Forgive me if this is rambling but I’ve recently lost my father and I’m in a brain fog and grief is over taking me. I will try to be coherent.

My husband has been complaining we need to cut back with bills etc as we are really feeling the pinch. I ask to see the credit card bill so I can see what we are spending it on. We have oil central heating so rather than heat the whole house I used an electric blanket and I tell our daughter to pop on her electric radiator. He’s been complaining about this too. I’ve ignored his complaints as I’m doing what we can, but won’t have my daughter cold. She also has an electric blanket but we have a very old farmhouse and it’s freezing at times.

When scrolling down I see a payment for OF, I ask what this is but he says he doesn’t know. Possibly something on eBay. A few dates later OF is on the bill again. I ask again and he isn’t sure to which I say it’s worrying two credit card payments have gone out and he doesn’t know what on. He answers this by saying it’s only £15 in total, but still. Then he tries to whizz down the bill, scrolling fast, but I see Only Fans. I know what this is.

I make him stop and ask what on earth he is doing using and paying for only fans. All year I’ve been asking him to come to bed and at weekends he’s always saying he falls asleep on the sofa. Or he’s up till 4am or 1am midweek. To be honest it’s started to get me down as I’m often alone, and crying over the loss of dad.

Now I know why.

We have not been sleeping together for about 5 months as he’s said he’s impotent and won’t go to the doctors. I’ve had so much to deal with dad dying I’ve not given it a thought. My energy has been on taking care of my dad in hospital, my family and our horses, cats and dogs at home. Most of which has been a blur.

I made him open his Only Fans account. At first he told me to get lost (replace that with swear words) but I insisted and said he had better or it’s a straight divorce. I was shaking.

His account showed subscriptions, tips etc and all the women were half my age and blonde. I’m brunette and 50. I can’t even compare.

He did not immediately apologise, despite me saying you have paid sex workers when you are not sleeping with me, using family money and questioning our heating. The account went back over a year. During my dad dying he was also active on Only Fans. I’m absolutely gutted. We’ve been married 15 years.

His reaction was to scream at me and minimise my feelings saying all men do this. I was crying at the time and not once did he apologise until I said he used family money and wanted our daughter to turn off her heater and did he think that was right? In addition to not coming to bed, or coming to bed late and telling me he was impotent.

He said he wanted to check if he was impotent without the pressure from me. I’ve never put him under any pressure. I asked why he needed to subscribe to a blonde and a redhead and many others - and keep checking if he was impotent…plus tips (I’m not fully sure what this is but he’s trying to tell me it’s just a pay wall to see more content).

To be honest I don’t know whether I’m coming or going. I’m under counselling for dad and I’m struggling daily. I held dad in my arms whilst he took his last breaths and I’ve been reliving this and suffering trauma. My horses and riding have given me much peace, especially when my daughter and I ride together.

I feel completely sick, minimised and betrayed by his lies at a time I thought he had my back.

We are linked in business in a limited company 50% shares, although he does the work and my tax code is simply used. I’ve tried to work in the business but he’s said he can’t work with me and employed an admin girl (dad was dying at the time I didn’t push it as I was back and forth to the hospice).

I’ve given up an amazing career to support him in his and watch our child grow up, which has been wonderful but now I can see I’m absolutely screwed.

He’s made it quite clear I will lose the home with my horses including my daughter’s pony.

I am gutted and when I’m at my lowest I feel I’ve been kicked in the teeth and now my boundaries are very different to his.

Please help. I’m struggling as it is with dad and now this. I feel like I’m on quick sand.

Sorry this is so long, apologies if it is a bit all over the place. I’ve name changed as I’ve posted on other topics and didn’t want to be identified.

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SequinDiscoBiscuits · 01/06/2023 07:33

Actually, I'd say HE was screwed.
You have clear evidence of his unreasonable behaviour.
He's about to lose YOU.
His hollow (and vile) threats are a clear sign he feels threatened and is becoming defensive.
You are in a stronger position, despite what he says and it sounds as though he knows it too..

I'm so sorry for the loss of your father.

Naunet · 01/06/2023 08:20

Wow, what a prick he is, doesn’t want to pay to keep his own daughter warm, but more than happy to give young women money to entertain his dick 🤮

nahwhale · 01/06/2023 08:26

Get to a solicitor. Make sure you are open with them about this weird tax code situation you've got going on

NectarCard · 01/06/2023 08:31

What a prick.
he does something wrong.
he gets called out and he says YOU’LL lose everything if you don’t accept that’s who he is
You won’t lose everything, I think this guy would be torn apart tbh by the sounds of it

Watchkeys · 01/06/2023 09:25

SequinDiscoBiscuits · 01/06/2023 07:33

Actually, I'd say HE was screwed.
You have clear evidence of his unreasonable behaviour.
He's about to lose YOU.
His hollow (and vile) threats are a clear sign he feels threatened and is becoming defensive.
You are in a stronger position, despite what he says and it sounds as though he knows it too..

I'm so sorry for the loss of your father.

I would agree with this. He's lashing out because he's been caught, like a toddler having a tantrum and screaming'I HATE YOU!!'

He's in a poor position to be dictating who gets what, given that he's entirely guilty, and you're 100% innocent. I'd give him a few days, and see if he swings back to being obsequious. He'll be looking for any route back to calm normality, and someone this manipulative is unlikely to care about how it looks, or whether they're being congruous. Keep your wits about you, and, now that you know how easily and comfortably he lies, consider everything he says to be a lie. You can't trust a single word. If you operate from that basis, you'll keep yourself safe, and that's your primary concern now. Have your own back, and don't look to him for judgements of anything. Not the situation, not the future, not yourself. He knows nothing reliably.

How are you this morning, OP?

ManyATrueWord · 01/06/2023 09:27

Not much to add from me, but find your anger, OP. About your daughter's horse, you retort "No, if she loses that it's down to you." Do some reading and learn all the bullying techniques and abuse tactics that men use, then you will be prepared.

Watchkeys · 01/06/2023 11:29

Find your anger, yes, but it's for you.

Advice to 'retort' is never good. You're not here to 'win'. If he wants to say your daughter will lose her horse, let him. It's just some sounds coming out of his face. It's not going to make your life any better or easier if you argue with him.

DancingLights · 01/06/2023 11:29

There are so many of you replying I feel overwhelmed at the thought of you all taking time out of your day to share your thoughts.

I’ve had a bad night’s sleep, but that’s a mix of grief, the joys of perimenopause and this carry on. However, the irony of him not coming to bed or bed late is not lost on me now he’s sleeping in the spare bed. There is no snoring (apart from my lovely old rescue dog and he’s just scrummy so who cares).

I’ve let my daughter sleep in and been and fed the horses. She’s usually up at 6am to muck out and feed her pony before school so she’s earned time off in the holidays.

They all greeted me with their wonderful wickers which made me have a tear or two. There are no winners in this situation and it’s incredibly sad at a time of already profound loss. I’ve not been brought up with horses but worked hard going to university and a great career to afford them. I gave up my career to enjoy my baby and by goodness have I had the best time with her.

However, the flip side is my husband has been able to earn 6 figure high salaries, then start his own business which I’ve supported all the home life. I don’t regret the time with my daughter, if I live struggling following this it will still be worth it for all the firsts I’ve seen. For the memories and for always being there. However, it’s only until something like this happens that women are really then left in an unfair situation. Let’s face it - no-one thinks it will happen to them. Have I been stupid? Maybe. I put my faith in my marriage and a partnership working together for the family unit. That was from a place of love and trust.

Many of you have said not to trust anything he says. I absolutely can’t even if I wanted to…it’s just gone.

The solicitor is booked.

For now I will try to get through the oncoming weekend and enjoy time with my daughter and our horses, walking the dogs and being out in nature. It is so good for my emotional health right now. Being out in nature boosts me up.

Yes, he’s now saying he doesn’t want to lose me and trust can be regained…he’s deleted the account etc.

However, he did tell me the company was worth less than it is so that was interesting. I know this from a rough conversation months ago.

There has been manipulation in previous arguments about the loss of the horses, house etc and it’s always pulled me back when he’s not been good to be around.

Overall I’m just so very sad. I’m struggling emotionally, mentally, to deal with daily life after losing dad but this feels like an edge I’m about to drop off.

Very sorry if this is long and a bit all over the place. I’m really tired and it’s a reflection of the jumbled nature of my head space.

I have a good counsellor which I will talk to next week. I can’t talk to friends in real life as I feel so ashamed of him.

I would like to thank each and everyone of you for making me feel like I’m not alone, for helping me process this and giving me your perspective at a time when I feel I’m in a dark place.

For a fleeting moment, in the early hours, I wished to slip away with dad, but it was just a few fleeting moments and I dug deep, looked at photos of my daughter on my phone and felt the momentous outpouring of love and thought no man will bring me to these depths of despair.

You have no idea what your words, help and thoughts on the situation mean to me.

Thank you.

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DancingLights · 01/06/2023 11:46

@Watchkeys thank you - this is my nature so it’s how I will be. I don’t want arguments. We owe each other respect and kindness after so long together. The whole situation is just so sad. Thank you.

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Crikeyalmighty · 01/06/2023 11:52

@DancingLights and for people who think they won't be in this position- it's not always about affairs or money in marital breakdown. Some men just have a sleazy side to them that they can't resist acting on-.and these days it's so easy. to them it may be no big deal but we all have different moral codes and stuff we are prepared to 'overlook' or live with- especially if we like a certain lifestyle. I would be more annoyed with the 'tightening belts, expecting you all to go without' aspect in order to fund his secretive sleazy habits.

billy1966 · 01/06/2023 12:10

OP

You are getting wise advice.

Get legal advice.
Tell him nothing.
Gather financial information for the solicitor.

He is highly abusive.
Putting OF's ahead of his childs heating, is truly dreadful.

He is a liar.
Do not trust a thing he tells you.

Please tell a trusted friend.
This is all on HIM.

You will be ok and get through this.

iamnottoofatiamjusttooshort · 01/06/2023 12:21

You've had really good advice here , I've nothing further to add other than to say I'm sending you love strength and peace

You sound wonderful , so sorry about your dad
You will get through this with your lovely daughter
That bastard can go fuck himself

💐

Pashazade · 01/06/2023 15:46

OP there is no shame that you should be carrying, tell friends now, let them know. He is the one with the nasty habit and it's no reflection on you. I'd be telling everyone, certainly letting everyone know how he's behaved and the threats he's levelled at you.
Again you have nothing to be ashamed of, it's all on him.

Grumpigal · 01/06/2023 15:59

oh OP, what a shit show. I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this.

I can only echo what others have said.

Play your cards close to your chest.
Have a look around for important documents, statements etc.
Dont get into debate or discussion, plaster on a smile if you have to.
Get legal advice to find out where you stand.

As a PP said upthread, face the storm.

You will get through it, you have no other choice but to stand up for yourself and your daughter.

Don’t let his threats and manipulation weaken your resolve.

stingypeasant · 01/06/2023 16:05

Ask him what is he suggesting? That you don't leave him and stay married to him all while no longer loving or wanting to be with him? Is this a solution to him?

Emelene · 01/06/2023 17:47

You’re being amazingly strong. I hope the counsellor and the solicitor go well. Flowers

jollyhollyday · 01/06/2023 17:58

I've been reading your posts and all the lovely help people are giving you and it's so heart breaking - I hope to read an update from you in a few months with news he is out and you and your daughter are truly happy with your horses enjoying the life you deserve Flowers

Emelene · 11/06/2023 22:11

I hope you’re doing okay OP xx

DancingLights · 12/06/2023 08:37

@Emelene have spiralled into a dark place overwhelmed at losing dad, this etc. Trying to focus on one minute at a time as I’ve started with heart palpitations. Counselling helping though and my horses, dogs and cats. Enjoying riding with my daughter. That’s all I can do at the moment but thank you for asking. It’s very kind of you. The solicitor was great. She said I just need to grieve right now but was there as and when.

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