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I really really really HATE him!!!

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OnZephyrstdayofXmas · 10/12/2004 15:44

DP. He is the biggest w**r on the planet. This after noon we came in from the car. I had 5 minutes to get round to the school to pay for the school pics and the money for dd to go to the xmas party next week. Instead of helping me he just left ds sitting in the car seat in a huge snowsuit and walked off to make a cup of tea. So I made a few sarcastic comments, got ds out, settled him in his chair and started him on his bottle. DP sat on the sofa and fell asleep. So I am still here, no money paid. Deadline was today. We are supposed to be going to my mums tomorrow as its my sisters 14th b'day today. DD is so excited as she loves going to see them. DP got called to work, stormed off, phoned from the car and said he's not taking us. DD in tears, dp just screaming at me down the phone.
I hate his f'ing guts. He always says 'one day I just won't come home' .... I wish he'd hurry up.

Sorry - rant over!!!

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Uwila · 10/12/2004 20:20

Lulu, what happened? Stay here (if it's okay with Zephyr as it's her thread).

tillykins · 10/12/2004 20:21

Zephyr, could you and your dd get the train to your mums for the day and leave your husband with the baby...? Might wake him up a bit!

OnZephyrstdayofXmas · 10/12/2004 20:21

course!!!!! stay!!!!!!!

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Uwila · 10/12/2004 20:23

Tilly, great idea. But if it was me, I'd be afraid that the baby would spend the whole time in dirty nappies, no food, and no attention paid to him/her.

Uwila · 10/12/2004 20:23

Lulu, where'd you go? I have to go tend to my dinner. I'll be back later. Hope your okay.

OnZephyrstdayofXmas · 10/12/2004 20:27

problem is dp has just started a new job and can get called away at any minute so i couldnt leave ds with him - plus my mum wants to see him as she's only seen him a few times since he's been born.

Lulu I'm just going to stick a curry in the mic but am still here - if you're anything like me you're probably off phoning or texting him in tears - i'll be back here in a few minutes......(((((()))))))

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spikeycat · 10/12/2004 20:47

I wanna join the club! Just got my first job (p/T 1/2 days pm) since ds was born 2yrs ago, been told thats okay, but I must pay all C/m fees and my own petrol etc (leaves me with £19 a month) and I still want to do it - to gain some independance from him and to make him think twice but he's saying I should give up.... Its strange cos although its worth nothing financially for me ds is happier to be having contact with my lovely childminer and I'm happier too.

I honestly would kick the lazy shit out if I had the energy.

OnZephyrstdayofXmas · 10/12/2004 20:51

welcome to the club sc!!

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TwasTheNightBeforeCatbert · 10/12/2004 20:52

I am completely rubbish on commenting on these sorts of things. I really am. But I get these moments too, although so far not as bad. But it always strikes me as men are from mars, etc etc etc.

Men don't realise they are having a baby until they GET the baby. Women get 9 months of feeling like they already have one. It's almost a head start. NOT right, but often true.

They get bored in the delivery room, but YOU'VE had all the pain, and worry and then there's a baby. So far, not much work done.

You have to get up in the night "because after all, they've got to work and earn" right? Yep - all of us in the same boat there. Noone will take away our wages in our "work" but it still doesn't mean getting through the next day on little or no sleep isn't a form of torture (and indeed sleep deprevation is still used the world over as effective torture).

We then all have the "who'se more tired" battles. GOD I hate that one.

Then we deal with the trudgery and monotonty and boredom of daily chores, and the things that HAVE to get done or the next day is even more hassle. There's so much planning and preparation to do, and there's NO letup. Every day is the same. It makes for resentment, esp. if DH/P does not pull his weight in this area.

The problem is, that men also, do not vocalise their grumps and groans, and we do - so we come off (a la many a comedian's punch line) as the nagging, irritating wives they didn't marry.

And if you are anything like me, you can't say calmly "I think we need to try and sort out the routine so that when you are here, we can make short work of this parenting lark, so we can both feel calm" but instead go with the most ultra sarcastic line that comes to mind "Oh right - you just lie in bed then, and see the children when I come and present them in a victorian father fashion eh?"

So. I don't know what to suggest, other than I do often work on the principal that DH loves his children SO MUCH that I ask him to consider how he would like his life back, and just see the children on a once a month basis, and would that be cool then? And so far, he cannot possibly imagine a worse punishment and therefore, for a while at least, we manage to talk through what bothers us at the moment, and even if we cannot sort it - it's off our chests and not building up. (Starts with tears, screaming, anger, subsiding into more rational talking, and then sorry's all round. I am not good at it, but admit to being very caught up in the mother role, and meaning I do forget about him and his feelings too.)

Often, it's the "I work hard and yet it is expected of me and I hate my job" or "I am really worried about money" or sometimes the simply shallow, but still prevelant "I miss the person who I used to be who was free to do whatever I like, and the girlfriend/wife who used to worry about ME ME ME - I'm at the bottom of the pile now, whinge moan, it's not FAIR! (oh - and I haven't had sex in a while and my willy is giving me a hard time, so to speak").

Perhaps. Suggest that he does go for a month to calm down, sort his thoughts out, see how he likes not seeing the kids on a daily basis and come back to the negotiation table with an adult conversation to be had, because these things are like a cancer to marriages and no good can come of it. It's hard work not having him around? Perhaps you will find you can actually manage slightly better without the stress of his presence. I manage quite happily without mine for weeks on end, as he works away abroad on business. Having him at home can actually really spoil my routines!

spikeycat · 10/12/2004 20:53

thanks - Ds 1 2nd birthday tomorrow, and DP (otherwise known as arsehole) won't even take him swimming with me Sad

TwasTheNightBeforeCatbert · 10/12/2004 20:54

Sorry - I whittered on a bit there. You should meet me in REAL LIFE!!!

spikeycat · 10/12/2004 21:02

made sense to me 'twas - However, when ever I give dp the option of losing second family (yes, he's been there b4) he seems quite pleased at the prospect - perhaps he actually wants to go - but want thinks to be my fault?

OnZephyrstdayofXmas · 10/12/2004 21:06

good advice catbert, thanks - I tried to send dp away for a week to stay with his friend in devon so we could 're-evaluate' our so-called realtionship but he refused to go saying why should it be him to go for a week without his children (not realising that by saying that he was confirming that he should be nice so i want him to be with his children!!) So he never went. He did go away for a week a little while ago for work training and i have to admit, i didn't miss him :( it's actually easier when he's not here

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TwasTheNightBeforeCatbert · 10/12/2004 21:35

Z - so fine. Tell him he's right. Why SHOULD it be him without the children for a week. So then, YOU'LL leave for a week, and he take a week off work. You could probably do with the break, and he can see just how "easy" it is to deal with a family and a house.

I think the point is for him to realise that it DOES take two of you to manage this house, and he's taking care of money, and you're taking care of the house and kids, and when 5.30 comes, you BOTH need to take shared responsibility.

I really, REALLY hope that you can work it out.

Spikey. I dunno. You might be right. If he's given up on one family then this is trickier. My sis in same boat. However, seems that depression that set in after birth of twins to first wife has never left, and now he's got 2 families "he never wanted" and she did leave him because she felt it was his problem to sort out before he could really make a go of it. She, however, feels mightily relieved at not having to deal with his mood swings anymore, and feels that they can work on a relationship better apart than together. Perhaps it will work.

I am hoping it can be resolved, in whatever way will make you and your children happier people.

{{{{{hugs}}}}}

OnZephyrstdayofXmas · 10/12/2004 21:41

Thanks Catbert - I'm hoping it works out too. Luckily I'm laid back enough to have the patience to try and work through this as I know that it's depression that is making him so shitty.
I guess time will tell!!!

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OhComeLetUsADiorHim · 12/12/2004 20:10

My dh laughed at me the other day when I said my memory is useless at coping with all the things I have to do. He said, 'What do you need to remember?' ...well, where shall I start? It might not be paid work that I do, but it still needs running efficiently. They just think that we sit around all day doing nothing! But then, on the other hand he admits that he would not be able to deal with dh all day!

OhComeLetUsADiorHim · 12/12/2004 20:11

Sorry, deal with ds all day.

OnZephyrstdayofXmas · 19/12/2004 10:44

How are you lulupop? Everything ok?

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stressedmummy · 19/12/2004 10:48

Thinking of you.
Don't know what advice to give, as I am in a similar situation myelf which is not yet resolved, but sending you hugs.

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