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Family think I’m not good enough

35 replies

NeverBeGoodEnough · 10/05/2023 13:28

I’ve name changed as I don’t want this linked to my other posts.
I’m not sure which section this belongs in really.
Yet another extended family member has looked down at me. Our extended families are all quite well off, we are not. This was never a problem for me (in the sense of comparisons) because I am a grateful for what I have kind of person. This seemed ok by some of the extended family BEFORE we had DC. We are not broke, we can afford everything our children need. They have clothes, toys, go on school trips, well fed etc. They have everything they need. What we don’t have is extra money for house renovations, cleaners, savings and exotic holidays. Our extended family are able to do all of those things, and since we have had DC, family tell us straight that our DC ‘deserve better’. We have been told that we ‘should make ourselves a success like them’ and they tell us we are cruel because our DC are deprived of the finer things in life, ‘think of the kids’. They look at us like we are scum because we buy our clothes in Asda and don’t own the latest and greatest things. My contentment in my life is starting to fade away. My husband works hard. I have chronic long term illnesses that I’ve long given up explaining to them, as they don’t try to understand them at all. I feel ill and exhausted most of the time, but they have made up their minds it’s laziness. They seem to forget how hard I worked before my illnesses. Everything is a struggle now so I can do less, but it takes as much effort as when I was working full time. The message is constant that they see us as failures, and it hurts so much. I hate the way they look at us, the way they patronise us and the way they treat us as less than. I don’t know how to stop myself internalising all of this. I think love is more important than fancy holidays, but maybe that isn’t enough in this modern world? Would you look down on me?

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Whatifitallgoesright · 10/05/2023 13:45

Why do you hear so much from them? There's no need to be that often in contact with anyone including family members. How are these thoughts conveyed to you? Do they come direct from them or are there parents involved fanning the fires of competition between siblings?

Corrienation · 10/05/2023 13:52

Why do you even speak to them?

Some of my relatives are better off than me and haven’t done this but if they did, we would laugh! We would not want their lives for a second . The assumption that rich =good is ridiculous.

Assertiveness is a wonderful thing- thanks for your unasked for opinion, yet again Linda, I’ll let you know when I find a fuck to give”

“Oh is Mrs Bucket off again? Let the cringefest commence?”

“ I feel so sorry for you being so judgemental and materialistic. Snobbery is SUCH an unattractive quality, don’t you think?”

NeverBeGoodEnough · 10/05/2023 13:53

@Whatifitallgoesright Thanks for your reply.
There are time when I ‘have to’ see them. Usually for a family event type of thing. It’s said directly to me. It’s the look they give me more than anything. They look at me like I’m something that’s been scraped off their shoes. I hate it, it hurts so much. I’m not a materialistic person. Even if I had the means to be, it’s just not me.

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NeverBeGoodEnough · 10/05/2023 13:57

@Corrienation Those replies have made me laugh. I’m not sure I would have the guts to say them out loud, but maybe they are good things for me to think when they are making their digs. Thanks!

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Turfwars · 10/05/2023 13:58

Is this someone you can reduce your time with? If so, do that as far as possible.

Next, when you do have to meet them, and they spout their opinion tell them to fuck off or shove it up their arse. A polite version is "I didn't ask for your opinion and I'd like you to stop talking now" Or just ignore them.

My DM is highly critical. But I just ignore her now. I'll never have the fancy car my sister does, or the high flying career my brother does. She looks down on my dated decor and throws her eyes up when I'm not doing things on her timeline, but honestly, I could be a millionaire and she would still find fault with how I lived my life and what my DS wears. I saw this many times when my Golden Child sister and I both bought similar. Sister was praised, I was eyerolled for my supposed stupidity.

Daisymoo222 · 10/05/2023 14:02

They sound vile. Life is too short to to surround yourself with people like that! And I love Supermarket clothes.

Turfwars · 10/05/2023 14:03

Ooh, good combacks:

"I think it's quite vulgar to talk about money"
"Yep, I'll get right on that after I talk to my swiss bank manager"
"No, I'm too content on my lazy arse to do XYZ"
"Yep the kids are sooo deprived. I expect SS any day now demanding to know why they are wearing Primark instead of Gap"
"That's all terribly nouveau rich I think. I much prefer to emulate the titled classes. They walk around like right scruffs"

And so on. Even if it's just to give yourself a laugh.
Your kids are loved and cared for and they know it. They have warm clothes and full bellies. That's the jackpot.

FinallyHere · 10/05/2023 14:04

My contentment in my life is starting to fade away

Oh lovely, don't let this happen to you

Enjoy your life, and honestly don't let them into your headspace. Don't let them win. There is no need.

You have no idea what is going on in their heads but one thing is certain, no one does the 'looking down upon' thing because they are happy and content in their own life. Don't let them succeed in tearing you down just to let themselves feel better.

Find compassion for them, but don't even for one minute think their lives are better than yours. Comparisons are always pointless.

Live your own life and be happy. Don't let them into your head. Imaging a golden glow encompassing your head, a shield that blocks them or whatever image works for you.

It gives you and your own loved ones a good life and, win: win, will absolutely eat them up that they can't make you feel bad.

FinallyHere · 10/05/2023 14:06

If you do have to respond to anything specific, just repeat their own words back to them and smile happily.

'You think we should earn more money'. Big smile. No other comment needed

Seriously, it will drive 'em nuts. That's not why you do it, you do it because you are happy and content with your life. Priceless. See?

ColdHandsHotHead · 10/05/2023 14:08

On the contrary, they are clearly not good enough for you. I wouldn't want my children to pick up on their dreadful values, and would see as little of them as possible.

Lemonclub88 · 10/05/2023 14:14

I think you're doing a great job, OP. Your children are loved and have everything they need.

Don't let your family try to beat you down. They sound bitter at your attitudes and how you are making sure your children are loved.

FWIW, my parents are the same. Nothing has ever been or ever will be good enough. From GCSE results, to prom photos, to my marriage, to my divorce to my slightly oranged dishwashered tupperware.

I keep them at arms length as my DC have picked up on it and comment that granny doesn't seem to like mummy very much. It might be best you take a step back to preserve your sanity. My family don't appear to miss me very much so maybe we're all happier.

Pallisers · 10/05/2023 14:15

Next time say back "well I think you are cruel rearing your children with horrible values like this - won't you think of the children"

Or just look at them blankly and say "that's nice" and start talking to someone else

Or say in a bored voice "omg are you off again on one of your Maggie Thatcher rants" and turn to someone else

Or blank and pivot to someone else.

You just need to have a strategy that you use consistently.

I know you are hurt by this but the reality is there is someone wrong with them if they feel the need to put you down like this. They are missing something or are unhappy in a way that makes them want to lash out at you. You are doing a great job and sound like you have a lovely happy family. Don't let some miserable person with horrible values have any space in your head.

LoisWilkersonslastnerve · 10/05/2023 14:17

Ah op. Please stand up for yourself. Next time someone looks at you like shit, ask them if there's a problem. Next time you are asked a rude question ask why. Next time you are criticised tell them you disagree and walk off with your head up.

Aquamarine1029 · 10/05/2023 15:11

There are time when I ‘have to’ see them.

Nope. This isn't true at all. You literally never have to see these people again and you have the power to make this happen. If these people are going to be at an event, you are not. Stand up for yourself and cut these toxic nightmares out of your life.

Seaoftroubles · 10/05/2023 15:14

OP l would be going very low contact with them. Don't engage and keep conversation minimal.They sound horrendous snobs with fake values whereas you sound lovely and very authentic. But l do agree you should stand up for yourself if directly criticised. A brief 'l don't agree. lf l wanted your opinion l'd ask for it ' and then walk away with your head held high.

Whatifitallgoesright · 10/05/2023 20:31

I think you'll get a good amount of strategies on this thread to shore you up for the next visit. Superiority Bingo - make a list prior of all the subjects and shout bingo out to your partner at each one then act as if nothing has happened.
"NeverBeGoodEnough Husband! 'Double garage'"
"Ah Damn, 3-nil to you now.. hang-on 'Ski holiday'"

Also if it's about clothes then absolutely you have to look back at them like they're shit on your shoe' "Oh, it's a shame your children are such brand slaves. I like that ours have minds of their own." Maybe even 'label whores' if you're feeling brave.

SaulSobieski · 10/05/2023 20:59

"We have our priorities in life right".

"There are more important things in life than .... (Whatever they mention)"

SaulSobieski · 10/05/2023 21:01

"I read that people who fixate on possessions and perceived high end experiences have deep rooted insecurities and values issues ... And that they would benefit from counselling/psychotherapy".

SaulSobieski · 10/05/2023 21:03

"I read that a sign of true class is making people feel comfortable and welcome no matter whether their financial circumstances are different from yours, don't you agree?".

DelphiniumBlue · 10/05/2023 22:52

"How rude." Turn on heel and walk away. You don't have to listen to this spiteful nonsense.
Or just tell them to fuck off. And then turn on you heel and walk away.

saraclara · 10/05/2023 22:59

Mos of the suggested responses here are cringy, and would just make you look worse in their eyes and in those of any witnesses.

Much better to respond calmly with a simple "our children are loved, and we're happy with the life decisions we've made" and turn away

StarDolphins · 10/05/2023 23:03

Your contentment in life makes you far richer & better than them. Keep that outlook always t& limit contact.

Thermals · 10/05/2023 23:06

We get this from DM a fair bit. I try and focus on what a happy little unit we are and how I will never treat my DC like that.

stayathomer · 10/05/2023 23:10

Op you say about your illness and how you are very tired, is there any chance they’re worried things are slipping and are failing in putting it across properly?

Wellhowdeedoo · 10/05/2023 23:16

They must be VERY unhappy in their lives to have to get their kicks from running you down.

Avoid them as much as humanly possible, and do not give them any headspace.