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To find men moodier than women?

50 replies

JamSandle · 06/05/2023 20:56

People regularly seem to say that women are moody mainly due to our hormones.

While I definitely think women can be moody I'm always surprised when people say men are easier than women.

I find many men SO moody. Whether it's my dad, siblings, employees, managers, different partners.

And I'm not sure where the women are worse thing comes from?

I feel like a lot of women are quite dynamic and happy go lucky and many men have tempers and sulk.

Both genders can be moody. So why are women considered the moody ones?

OP posts:
PaintedEgg · 06/05/2023 21:14

because it was grumpy, sulky, moody men who created this stereotype 😂

for years men lived in entitlement of having women tend to their every need, including emotional ones. They never had to pay attention to how grumpy or annoying they were so they perceived the reaction to them as being moody. Also when women are in bad mood for other reasons they cannot tend to men and sometimes dare to expect emotional support from their spouses, further leading to men perceiving this as "exaggerated emotionality" and inconvenience

Precipice · 06/05/2023 21:21

Many of male stereotypes about women are men projecting.

Talk too much? Also men.

Festivfrenzy · 06/05/2023 21:28

Totally agree with all of this. I find so many men are like this and increasingly as they get older. Even to the point of my DH being grumpy cos he's grumpy AND grumpy cos I'm happy! But when they're older they should be more aware of what makes them grumpy so better equipped to manage themselves! But yet this does not seem to happen- they get worse for some reason. Sad really but there we go.

littleripper · 06/05/2023 21:31

Being grumpy?
Talking over everyone.about themselves/interrupting?
Having tantrums: Mantrums?
Low threshold for pain/illness

All men. Everytime. It's ridiculous.

Pinkbonbon · 07/05/2023 03:49

I find they're more likely to be gossipy too. And more prone to shit stirring. Haha I sound harsh. Men are great. But...yeah...definately think many of the stereotypical female failings are male projection.

IneedcoffeeinanIV · 07/05/2023 03:54

I've definitely know more moody men than women. My DP is one of the moodiest people I've ever met. I have anxiety and my hormones are a nightmare when I'm due on my period but the way he acts 24:7, you would think he's constantly menstruating

IneedcoffeeinanIV · 07/05/2023 03:56

We're called the moody ones because it's an easy thing to say. We have periods and constant fluctuating hormones so it's the simpler thing to say 'woman are always moody or bitchy because they're hormonal'. Winds me right up. At work for instance, men within my team say certain things or ace a certain way and it's fine, funny, no problem. I act in a similar way and it's been called 'sassy' and not in a 'hahaha' kind of way

WandaWonder · 07/05/2023 03:56

Not really sure met some who are same as women, don't see men blaming hormones when they act irrationally though or in other ways

WandaWonder · 07/05/2023 04:03

IneedcoffeeinanIV · 07/05/2023 03:56

We're called the moody ones because it's an easy thing to say. We have periods and constant fluctuating hormones so it's the simpler thing to say 'woman are always moody or bitchy because they're hormonal'. Winds me right up. At work for instance, men within my team say certain things or ace a certain way and it's fine, funny, no problem. I act in a similar way and it's been called 'sassy' and not in a 'hahaha' kind of way

But how many women on here usually start threads 'AIBU this situation happened I know I am hormonal...'

Or words to that effect so women blame hormones all the time when a man says they are hormonal that is not right? (And I am not saying it is right myself)

Talon01 · 07/05/2023 04:53

It's far easier in a mainly male work environment compared to a female one.

I think kind of explains it. Even women I know admit women are far harder to manage. Women also admit girls are harder to deal with than boys.

littleblackcat27 · 07/05/2023 04:59

Talon01 · 07/05/2023 04:53

It's far easier in a mainly male work environment compared to a female one.

I think kind of explains it. Even women I know admit women are far harder to manage. Women also admit girls are harder to deal with than boys.

Really?

Maybe tell that to the Metropolitan police - not sure they've had the memo

Talon01 · 07/05/2023 05:08

littleblackcat27 · 07/05/2023 04:59

Really?

Maybe tell that to the Metropolitan police - not sure they've had the memo

You work for the Met police?

whatisforteamum · 07/05/2023 05:23

My dh is older than me and we ve both had our moods getting older.
I definitely lost my ability to be cheerful in the peri menopause.
The difference is I tried everything to get back to my cheerful self.Started exercising stopped drinking and and took HRT and taking supplements.
Meanwhile my dh is an overweight unhealthy grump.
I'm not sure women are better in my current workplace.
I do think some men give up trying with appearance,or current music or trends quicker so feel old quicker.This makes them grumpy and with no spark for life beyond bin day.🤣

Tinybrother · 07/05/2023 05:32

WandaWonder · 07/05/2023 04:03

But how many women on here usually start threads 'AIBU this situation happened I know I am hormonal...'

Or words to that effect so women blame hormones all the time when a man says they are hormonal that is not right? (And I am not saying it is right myself)

Women’s emotional reactions are seen as “hormonal” and irrational whereas men’s are seen as understandable and rational, but I bet most of it comes from the same place. Women are just as susceptible to the stereotypes about themselves as men. It’s just that women’s reactions to their emotions are considered much less socially acceptable, despite the fact that in general they are much less destructive than what men are allowed to get away with. We spend our lives ruled by men’s emotional reactions and have done for centuries.

PermanentTemporary · 07/05/2023 05:59

I mostly work in a female environment. I have had one serious relationship issue at work in 12 years. Like fuck does 'everyone know that women are harder to manage'.

My experience of men is that they're quite fragile, and they don't recognise when they're having mood swings, they think they've always felt that way.

Tinybrother · 07/05/2023 06:03

Men are taught to externalise - so taught that if they feel bad then it’s someone else’s fault, they did or didn’t do something, other people (probably women) should be running around to solve their bad feelings. women are taught to internalise, so taught that feeling bad is their own fault and there is something wrong with them that they should fix.

JandalsAlways · 07/05/2023 06:31

You are so right. Needy too. My H always wants to talk after an argument and I just want to be left alone.

YouveGotToGrooveIt · 07/05/2023 06:36

Even women I know admit women are far harder to manage. Women also admit girls are harder to deal with than boys.

It's obviously subjective but, hand in heart, I'd far rather manage woman. Through my career they have been far more enjoyable - and rewarding - to manage than men. When I think back to the really difficult ones, they've all been men.

YouveGotToGrooveIt · 07/05/2023 06:38

JandalsAlways · 07/05/2023 06:31

You are so right. Needy too. My H always wants to talk after an argument and I just want to be left alone.

Reminds me of dogs.

All the female dogs I've had have been loyal but not needy. All the males have been needy but not loyal Grin

Thisisworsethananticpated · 07/05/2023 08:33

I’ve seen that

im very reactive , I’m like petrol I flare and then calm

the men just tend to stay moody and cave

Thisisworsethananticpated · 07/05/2023 08:36

I also in general prefer female colleagues

the men are totally ego driven
they get their self esteem from work and any challenge to their ego kills them

Now don’t get me wrong I’ve worked with brilliant people of both genders

but in general the women are a tad easier

Workawayxx · 07/05/2023 08:42

If a man behaving in a grumpy/moody way he thinks he’s being totally rational and logical. If a woman is, men feel they’re not rational/logical so there must be some “irrational” reason for their behaviour.

I’ve worked in a 90% female company and not many issues. Went to all girls boarding school and the odd issue I’ve generally we were all pretty kind and supportive of each other. Issues tended to be turned on ourselves rather than others - eating disorders, mental health issues etc. Also have a son and a daughter and (so far) she’s much easier and less emotional than he was.

PaintedEgg · 07/05/2023 08:45

I dont have a specific preference, but when I think about people being moody in a workplace I think this mostly applies to men - there are rude men and women, but when it comes to displaying anger for example I think men are more prone to it. They are also louder - I am yet to see a woman stomping into office after a football match and loudly announcing to everyone her team has won. I've seen plenty of men do it - some with little dance too!

not necessarily bad thing, but men are definitely more likely to be loud and think nothing about the appropriateness of their reactions, while women are more likely to question their own behaviour

also when men dislike their female coworkers they tend to get petty and condescending, as opposed to just mean (as some women do). both are "emotional" reaction, but i take mean comments over what some men do when they feel crossed by a woman

JoyceMeadowcroft1 · 07/05/2023 09:08

I expect that the moodiness scale is distributed similarly in men as in women, but women make more of an effort to prevent their moods from negatively impacting on others.
I think this is tied up with socialisation whereby the subtext is that it's the woman's role to keep everyone happy, and if men are unhappy, women should empathise. If women are unhappy they shouldn't impose that on anyone else.
I struggle with the self indulgence of anyone who thinks their internal state gives them a free pass to be rude, difficult or unkind. Most people don't do this with colleagues, or if they do it's not 'full on', they just don't make the same effort at home.

Soproudoflionesses · 07/05/2023 09:19

Couldn't agree more op.
I had a discussuon with dh recebtly and told him straight his feelings aren't any more important than mine . Sulking proper gives me the ick