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One Night Stand/Emotional Affair

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MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 10:02

Until recently, my marriage was the thing in my life (apart from my children) that I was most proud of. Married almost 20 yrs to someone I love and trusted implicitly.
we have suffered a huge amount of stress in recent years, and especially in the past year. Most of it, if not all of it, financial.
it’s been tough. Still is. Our sex life has been non existent as I just am too stressed, exhausted and perimenopausal to want it.
Recently my normally loving husband has not been so loving. He has been downright mean at times. I don’t know what made me ask, but last Thursday I saw him on his phone again, and told him, ‘show me your phone.’ He refused and got angry.
He told me he had been slagging me off in his WhatsApp friends group and it was vile.
we were at my parents house and had our son with us so had to drive home silently and angrily. Later that night I asked him again- he point blank refused to show me.
we slept in separate rooms. At 5am I crept into the room he was sleeping in and grabbed his phone.
he woke up and a tussle ensued. I got the phone but couldn’t open it.
At this point our son was up for school and witnessed this argument. Eventually I got the passcode but he had deleted everything on his phone. Photos the lot. I saw one message at 4am to an unknown number. It said I love you.
I made him take our son to school, and I waited.
on his return I asked him to explain.
Lie after lie tumbled out, in order to try and minimise it.
Eventuwlly, I dragged the truth out of him.
He had gone on a work trip 2 months ago and got blind drunk. He had met some woman in the pub and ended up going back to his room with her and had sex.
He says he had had 7 pints before the meal and several whiskies after and was absolutely blind drunk. He didn’t remember anything much except that something has happened.
After a day or so, he got a LinkedIn request from the woman. Now, he knew her name. She had had to do some detective work to find him on linked in based on geographical location and company name.
He refused the request. Then a few days later he contacted her via LinkedIn and asked her what had happened. She filled him in with the details.
He told her he was married and had been drunk and it shouldn’t have happened.
She then started ‘checking in’ with him. ‘Hi, are you ok?’ Etc etc. She suggested moving to WhatsApp and swapping numbers. Then she asked him, ‘what are you into’ and the conversations became sexual. Over the past two months she said that it wasn’t going anywhere so they should stop messaging. He says it was then he started to tell her he was going to leave me, he loved her etc, because he enjoyed rhe messaging. It was an ego boost etc etc.
I rang the woman. I suspected he had coached her on what to say. She said it was a drunken dalliance, nothing more.
I told her to stop contacting him. She agreed.
He blocked her number.
Later that night, I took his phone and unblocked her number. Within 15 minutes. She messaged him. Are you ok?
I pretended to be him.
Youve been online half an hour and didn’t message me? Why? She asked.
’She rang me- I said what we agreed’
I replied- my son is distraught and wife is devastated- it’s been hard here today.
she replied, ‘It’s been awful for me too- because of HER! (Me)
At that point, she got suspicious. I rang her and told her again- stop.
He says he contacted her and told her I would likely call her and to please not say anything that might hurt me more.
So he was STILL lying and attempting to minimise that very morning.
He had arranged to meet her again in the next few weeks at a works do, but told me he had no intention of doing so- he was stringing her along to keep the messages going.
He has been remorseful and upset and our children said they would never forgive him. Our parents and my best friend know and all said that of everybody in the world, he was the least likely to cheat and they cannot believe it.
He has quit his job as I said I would never trust him again on work trips.
we spent four days agreeing to salvage our marriage. He said he absolutely didn’t want this other person who he could barely remember. He is sorry blah blah blah. He has booked counselling. My parents think he has had some sort of breakdown.
We spent four days having sex and trying to carry on as normal. But this made me feel like he is being rewarded in some way for his behaviour. I love him very much but he has totally shattered my heart, my trust, my entire world. We are now back in separate rooms and I just don’t know how to carry on. Any advice really gratefully received.

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Gymtastic · 05/05/2023 10:05

Well I think you know he’s lying still and he was also planning on meeting her again. The I love you’s are serious.

why are you clinging on?

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MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 10:21

I don’t believe he is still lying now, today. I guess I desperately want to believe that this was what he says it was, and try to survive.

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WatieKatie · 05/05/2023 10:24

I really don’t know why you keep calling the OW & messaging her pretending to be him.

I’m not condoning what she has done but perhaps initially she didn’t know that he was married? Maybe he told her it was over between you, he was leaving etc.

Your issue should be with your cheating and lying husband. He’s already had an affair, minimised and lied, said he wouldn’t contact her again yet has. He’s absolutely following the script. He doesn’t sound genuinely sorry at all.

Can you salvage this? Would you want to? It doesn’t sound like he’s bothered. Sorry
OP.

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MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 10:27

I don’t keep calling her. I called her once to see what he side of the story was. And I simply decided to see what would happen if I unblocked her- she messaged him again despite being told not to.

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PissedOffNeighbour22 · 05/05/2023 10:29

Agree with Gymtastic - why are you clinging on to him?

He's a lying shit who can't be trusted. My ex-h was also lauded as someone who would never cheat. Caught him placing messages online asking for a 'fuck buddy' and other lovely stuff 😒.

He's only remorseful he's been caught. He dealt with it appallingly and it's treatment you shouldn't be willing to accept from him. I wouldn't trust him to drop contact with the woman as he's already shown he'll go behind your back repeatedly to contact her. There's so many platforms he could use, you'll never be able to keep track.

Most men seem unable to actually tell the truth in these situations. When I gave my ex-h the chance to come clean he swore blind he had told me everything. When I caught him again he said the same but I had the evidence it wasn't true. He gave a little more but I know I didn't get the full truth.

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FishChipsMushyPeas · 05/05/2023 10:35

I love the way EVERYTHING was from her side like he is somehow a blameless victim. If (and I very much doubt it), she was the one doing all the chasing he only had to say 5 things:

Sorry, I'm not interested, I'm married

How many other drunken shags has he had on his work trips?

Does he have another job? If not, I can imagine him becoming frustrated with that and taking that out on you.

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usernother · 05/05/2023 10:39

He's lying. So drunk he couldn't remember what happened? Only replied to her to find out what happened? OP if a friend of yours was telling you this story what would you think?

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MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 10:43

FishChipsMushyPeas it’s not all from her side at all- I agree with you, he is to blame, however I do think that he was unlucky to encounter someone who seems to live for this kind of drama and has absolutely no moral compass at all. She said on the phone she was so sorry, she chose to believe he was separated. Yet as soon as she saw he was online, she started messaging him again.
I genuinely believe he has been faithful throughout our marriage, until 2 months ago. Work trips are not a regular thing.

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AgentProvocateur · 05/05/2023 10:43

You’ll never be able to trust him. He’s only sorry he got caught. If he hadn’t been caught? He would have continued lying to you, cheating on you, putting another woman before you and his children. Do you really think she was the first one? My guess is he makes a habit of it every time he’s away for work.

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MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 10:46

I agree AgentProvocateur- I will never trust him again. And the trust I had him in was one of the best things about our marriage. I have never had reason to suspect him of anything and we spend a lot of time together. We even have, and have had for several years, a family tracker on our phones so we can find out where each other are- not for any ‘stalking’ purposes, but just to plan our time because we live in a very remote area.

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MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 10:49

Usernother he doesn’t often drink. When he does rarely go on a big night out or whatever, he tends to get very very drunk because he isn’t used to it. The person he went on this one night work trip with, is an extremely heavy, regular drinker.
He did arrive home shockingly hungover- I remember that much. The last time I saw him that drunk was over a year ago and he had to be put to bed- he was making no sense whatsoever. He says that he is going to address this in therapy.

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MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 10:53

FishChipsMushyPeas
I genuinely don’t believe he has done it before. No, he doesn’t have another job- we can survive without it in the short term and he says that fixing his marriage is his no. 1 priority. He will be doing some work for a family member and helping me in my business in the short term. He will also be concentrating on sorting out the financial situation that contributed to all of our stress, and which he has buried his head in the sand about.
I did ask him if he felt that this would be enough for him, given that he says that feeling bad about himself contributed to the messaging- he says the woman messaged him daily and made him feel good about himself. 🤮

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MrsSamR · 05/05/2023 11:00

I'm a bit confused as to how he has just quit his job - will that not impact you financially? So if he gets another job it'll have to be one where there are definitely never any work trips ever again? How will that work?

I'm afraid once the trust is broken it's very hard to get it back. An ex boyfriend of mine cheated only when drunk and offered to give up drinking as if that would solve the problem but it's not as simple as that!

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MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 11:09

In the whole time I’ve known him, there has been 1 work trip previously. This job he has been in for less than a year and they do seem to have work trips more often. His not having this job anymore- he has just resigned, will not impact us financially in that we have a few different things going on, and by concentrating on another of those things, plus doing some work for a family member, and helping me expand my successful business, he will probably end up making more than his job- and not have to work crazy hours and go away.

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Citadel8 · 05/05/2023 11:10

He will be lying through his teeth as they always do. Unfortunately so many women just choose to believe them and stay because the alternative is too scary to face for most. Men are masters at minimising. Once the trust has gone, it’s done.

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usernother · 05/05/2023 11:12

MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 10:49

Usernother he doesn’t often drink. When he does rarely go on a big night out or whatever, he tends to get very very drunk because he isn’t used to it. The person he went on this one night work trip with, is an extremely heavy, regular drinker.
He did arrive home shockingly hungover- I remember that much. The last time I saw him that drunk was over a year ago and he had to be put to bed- he was making no sense whatsoever. He says that he is going to address this in therapy.

Ok. But even if he couldn't remember there was no need for him to contact the woman. You're making excuses for him OP.

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MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 11:18

Usernother agreed- I’m trying hard not to make excuses for him. But, there was some serious detective work by this woman to track him down. He didn’t even know her name. She knew his first name. She contacted the pub/hotel to find out what company he worked for. She went on linked in and looked at their offices in his location, and then scrolled through photos until she found him.
He initially declined her LinkedIn request. But a few days later, it was totally his choice to look at her profile and message her. There are no excuses for that. He was sober. He cannot explain why he did that. He says he will discuss it in therapy to try and get an understanding of why he did that.

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FishChipsMushyPeas · 05/05/2023 11:26

There are a couple of things bothering me, you were too stressed, exhausted and perimenepausal to want sex previously (understandably) buy you have been having sex recently (again totally understand why), have you wanted to sleep with him again? If you don't want to again in the future, what will he do then? Your reasons for not wanting to weren't just down to money stresses even if he does sort that issue out.

The other thing is, was he actually slagging you off to his friends or was thar just an excuse to stop you looking at his phone? If he was slagging you off and it was 'vile' then that's almost as bad as the affair.

I'm sorry, I hope I am not coming across as harsh, it's really not my intention.

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octoberfarm · 05/05/2023 11:28

Oh OP, I know that right now she seems like the bad guy because you know your husband and have had all of this history with him, but this didn't happen because of bad luck, and it didn't happen because she did some sleuthing and tracked him down. He chose to sleep with her. Even if it was a horrible drunken mistake, he could have then felt absolutely terrible about it, told you what he'd done and dealt with the consequences, but instead he chose to pursue a relationship with this woman knowing what it would do to you (otherwise why delete everything and be so unkind to you?) and knowing what had already happened. He didn't get unlucky, he decided his ego was more important than his marriage to you and he chose, over and over again, to pursue her. He's sorry because he got caught, and maybe because now he realizes the magnitude of his mistake. But if you hadn't caught him, he'd still be doing it. He didn't stop because he suddenly realized/cared how badly he was treating you.

I can't imagine how hard this must be to reconcile with who he was but who he used to be would never have been unkind to you either, right? I'm really sorry you're going through this. You don't have to make any decisions right away, just give yourself some time Flowers

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ClawedButler · 05/05/2023 11:29

He wasn't sorry when you didn't know.

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Softoprider · 05/05/2023 11:30

Your header shows you are in a sort of denial. One night stand my arse. He's a cheat and you have joined in with the whole thing by getting involved. Get shut of him

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Softoprider · 05/05/2023 11:30

@ClawedButler
He wasn't sorry when you didn't know.

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growgrowinggrown · 05/05/2023 11:34

How do you know that she pursued him, other than his word? He's deleted all the messages and already told her what to say to you.

For all you know she left with his number and recieved a lovely 'thanks for last night, that was amazing' text from your 'D'H.

Why would he delete evidence that could prove he's been harassed into a sexual and emotional affair? Yeah, not likely.

Moreover why do your children know about this? You've decided to tell them and cause heartbreak by involving them, then choosing to stay together anyway.

So they now get to see dad as a prick and mum as a walkover. Can only imagine what they're feeling right now.

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MarchionessG · 05/05/2023 11:35

Softoprider- you don’t know him or me, and I asked for some advice, not censure. This is a terrible situation, a life changing event that I’m trying to get my head round. Yes he is a cheat. But this was a one night stand. He didn’t see her again after this happened in March.

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Cakeandcoffee93 · 05/05/2023 11:35

I’ve been through this but my partner never slept with her. I only know this through asking her repeatedly and she said f”k you instead of yes we slept together etc
heres what you’re gonna do OP
yoire gonna kick him out, as he needs to be punished
you’re gonna get booked in for various beauty treatments and you’re gonna go out more and go the gym and chat to other people
you know why? Because he will be thinking you’re sat about in love with him, crying etc and he will love that he has two women wanting him
you will be independent and show you don’t need him
men are a luxury at their finest
cheating men arent
youre gonna act like you don’t give a fuck
he will come crawling back and be insanely sorry and jealous etc
when he does you decide if you want him. Or if you’ve outgrown him.

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