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Partner being unreasonable and nasty

61 replies

Cancowswim · 04/05/2023 22:57

I need some advice about my relationship with my partner.
We have both been married before and have kids with our exes.
My eldest (14) doesn’t see their dad and the other two (12,10) stopped for a while due to his behaviour and neglect.
His kids (10,11) come to ours but not regularly.
Eldest hasn’t seen us for 6 months now and the other comes when they please.

My partner is at breaking point over his relationship with his kids (ex is very high conflict and has actively interfered with contact for around a decade) and the fact we now get very little time alone and this is having a negative impact on everything else.
He is currently blaming my kids for the deterioration of our relationship because they are here most of the time.
He has particularly got it in for my eldest because they are a teen and have a bit of the teen attitude to go with it.
In the last couple of weeks he has really changed.
He is moody, miserable, irritable and nasty.
He complains about everything, doesn’t notice when I do/say nice things or am helpful or supportive but also doesn’t do anything himself to sort stuff out. He is a complainer and a procrastinator which is a toxic combination. I am a positive person mostly and like to find solutions, not problems.

At the weekend, he lost his temper because my eldest finished an activity early and had to be collected. This meant I had to leave 30 mins early from our scheduled time together.
He got really angry with me on our way back and then locked us both out of the house.
He said it was the final straw because he doesn’t like her attitude.
He has refused to apologise to her, even though she had done nothing wrong and I’ve told him I don’t agree with him not doing so.
He also treats his own children completely differently - they are allowed to be rude and disrespectful to me with no consequence and can do as they please as he is worried they won’t want to see him if he corrects them. He always makes excuses for their behaviour ‘it’s not surprising to eyre like that when their mum does xxx’ but doesn’t allow my kids the same courtesy, even though my kids’ dad is abusive!

Roll on tonight, he has been out doing his hobby for around 4-5 hours.
In that time I have finished my work (I have a stressful job), sorted out my kids and then decided to do my nails and sit with a glass of wine for a while.
He then got angry because the kitchen wasn’t clean and I didn’t go in straight away to help him do it when he’d had a shower.

He also got angry because my eldest had left shampoo bottles in the shower.
At the weekend, he DUMPED me because of my eldest coming home early (we’ve been together around a decade, own a house together etc).
He has never been like this before and I am at a loss, although he does always seem to dump me when he gets stressed.
He basically says that if I’m
not in his life he has less to deal with because my kids aren’t around either, which is charming.
I think he is depressed but he says the way he feels is down to my kids and the ‘home environment (he means my kids when he says that too) and is expecting me to just ‘take’ all the shit he gives me.
He doesn’t like it when I get angry about stuff - he always says I’m ‘taking it out on him’ when all I’m doing is expressing my anger, not even AT him.
We spoke about couples counselling and I’ve written a list of issues which has made me realise how much resentment is inside me.
He says he is committed to sorting things but his horrible behaviour tells me otherwise. I always thought we had a really great, social relationship but I feel like he is ruining it now.

What should I do? Should I try therapy? Any other ideas?

OP posts:
Northernsouloldies · 05/05/2023 01:01

He doesn't have the aptitude to behave like a decent human being. Locking out of the house, throwing tantrum because child activity finished early. Get rid op for all of your sakes.

Roxy75 · 05/05/2023 01:04

My ex partner was like this about my daughter. It took me 7 years but I left him. Best thing I ever did. My daughter and I live just the 2 of us now but we are so happy not treading on eggshells. I have to work 2 jobs to get by but it's so worth it. My daughter means everything to me and I feel guilty every day for allowing us to be in the same situation. Please believe me, you'll be happier without him. Your kids deserve you and a relaxed, happy home environment. We celebrate the anniversary of me leaving him each year with a takeaway. It's like our thing. I packed my car up and went to my parents. They were amazing and relieved as they knew he was a narcissist person. Just leave. You get one shot at this life. You don't work on a relationship with a narcissist. Leave them to it!! I'd happily chat with you if you'd like. PM me if you want. I've been through so much and excused so much for a 'family environment'. Just please don't justify this. Sending hugs as it's so hard but it's like giving up cigarettes, you have to be ready. I believe you are xx

Aquamarine1029 · 05/05/2023 01:09

Why in the fuck are you continuing to subject your kids to this horrible cunt of a man? The example you are setting for them is absolutely terrible. Get rid of this abusive twat.

someoneisalwaysintheloo · 05/05/2023 03:06

Get legal advice asap and get rid of this abusive twat!

Poppins88 · 05/05/2023 04:55

Sunflowerstitch · 04/05/2023 23:59

I only got a third of the way through the post and gave up. It’s so sad that there are children who have to put up with parents like you. Your child is being blatantly abused by your latest fuck toy and instead of throwing his abuser out of the house you’re asking what you should do on here

This. Where is your instinct to protect your child? What message do you think you're sending them, particularly your eldest by prioritising your need to be in a relationship over her need to be in a safe, loving environment?

As the daughter of a woman who stayed in a relationship with a man who was openly and repeatedly contemptuous towards me, I can tell you there is a strong likelihood your daughter will grow up to hate you/lose all respect for you if she hasn't already.

mischlerischler · 05/05/2023 04:59

You need to protect your children. He is nasty and they should not be living in this environment.

As PPs said, I would start looking into separation.

MrsRickAstley · 05/05/2023 05:10

Kids come first.

Natty13 · 05/05/2023 06:42

You're actively raising the next generation of women who won't have any backbone when it comes to men. Well done, great example 👏

Cancowswim · 05/05/2023 07:24

Well I wasn’t quite prepared for such a lambasting but I’ll take it.
As I said in the OP it’s only just started being this way. He was fine with my kids, including the eldest until very recently.
It’s like something has switched.
Anyway, I will get some advice because I don’t want us to live with him like this.
Interesting what the poster said about him comparing the relationships and feeling jealous.
I am very close to my kids and have a great relationship with them so there may be some truth in that.
To the poster who said I was helping raise a generation of women with no backbone, thankfully that’s not the case.

She has asserted herself in this situation and I have agreed with and supported her. I’m not taking responsibility for the rest of their generation of women though!

OP posts:
Starlitestarbright · 05/05/2023 07:25

Leave this abusive man! Put your dc first. This behaviour is not normal at all. Surely you don't need strangers on the Internet to tell you that!

AgentJohnson · 05/05/2023 10:05

She has asserted herself in this situation and I have agreed with and supported her.

How supportive of her can you be when there have been no consequences for his awful treatment of her. Do not be company for his misery.

Slowgrowingelm · 05/05/2023 10:30

Having grown up with all types of bad parenting shite I made a decision not to share a home with a man, post divorce, until my kids have grown. I have a great relationship with someone, and have done for several years, but he is not invited in to share our family home. He knows my kids, they know him, they get along well, but he’s not part of my household. My kids come first.

You need to realise your priorities are not quite right. Fair enough it’s ‘only just’ changed, but he locked you and your eldest out of the house? Why do you need to even ask?

FiddleLeaf · 05/05/2023 10:37

She has asserted herself in this situation

Let her be an inspiration for you and start saving for her therapy now. She’ll need it witnessing this nonsense.

gettingolderbutcooler · 05/05/2023 10:45

Locked you and your child out of the house???? And you're wondering if you should get therapy?
eye roll

Namechange666 · 05/05/2023 10:57

Groutyonehereagain · 04/05/2023 23:00

What you should do is leave and take your children with you. You owe it to your children to protect them from this horrible man. You also owe it to yourself. You are not to blame. I’m sorry you are going through this. 💐

This 100% pick your children first. You can choose to live there, they can't.

You'll damage your relationship exposing them to this.

yellowsmileyface · 05/05/2023 11:01

With all due respect, I don't think you're grasping just how damaging this sort of environment is for adolescents. She's still in her formative years, and currently in the process of learning what is and isn't acceptable. Seeing you stay with a man who does these things IS teaching her that it's acceptable, even if she can see in the moment that it isn't.

My mum probably would have thought the same about me as a teenager. "She stands up for herself, there's no way she's ever gonna let someone treat her like sh*t". I was a feisty teenager and I knew how my mum was being treated wasn't right, but it still blurred my understand of what a healthy relationship looked like and I had no idea how to enforce my boundaries, so I ended up being abused. The cycle repeated itself.

Please break this cycle now. It's so incredibly naive if you think this isn't going to have a negative impact on your child's future relationships.

cannaecookrisotto · 05/05/2023 11:27

You need to get out of the relationship. In your own words "he particularly has it in for my eldest"... indicates this man is a piece of shit that your kids could really do without.

You don't deserve this, your children don't deserve this, get rid. Seriously.

SavBlancTonight · 05/05/2023 11:51

Let me type this very slowly:

He. Locked. you. And. Your. Teenager. Out. Of. Your. Own. Home.

That right there is deal breaker shit.

My guess is that he's a controlling, emotionally abusive dick. I suspect that is why his first relationship ended and that he has been continuing with controlling and abusive behaviour towards his ex and their shared DC all these years - hence the lack of interest from his children to spend time with him.

Now, he has FINALLY moved on and so the controlling and abusive behaviour is now aimed at YOU and your children. You had a surprisingly long time of him being "nice" (although, I suspect there's a LOT that was happening that you didn't even realise) but now you are his new target.

Protect your children. Protect yourself. This will ONLY get worse.

Tinkerbyebye · 05/05/2023 11:52

Tell him to go

Softoprider · 05/05/2023 11:57

Oh OP. I feel sorry for you. It clearly has not worked out and to be honest even if you had counselling his behaviour will not stop now. Do not allow him to browbeat you into making the wrong decision here

gamerchick · 05/05/2023 12:07

Why are you asking? It's changed, it's over, you need to get your kids out of that.

Newestname002 · 05/05/2023 12:10

I was really shocked by your OP @Cancowswim - there's SO much wrong detailed there. I'm glad you've decided to do something about the situation (perhaps contact Women's Aid for advice and help also). I also wouldn't go to couples counselling with someone abusive but would quietly make plans to separate physically and financially from him. As MNers would say "get your ducks in a row" - don't forewarn him or he might well make things much more difficult for you whilst you still need to live in the same house whilst getting ready to leave.

Go online and get a rough valuation of your home, put aside as much money into a sole, private account he knows nothing about and can't access, copy/photograph all your utility bills do you can have your name taken off them when you're about ready to leave (and take meter readings on your last day), change all personal passwords when you're ready to leave (eg Netflix, Amazon etc) so he can't lock you out of them. You may want to make an appointment with a family law solicitor if things get more difficult- especially with getting your financial share of your house, furniture etc. Good luck. 🌹

Daniki · 05/05/2023 12:25

Sorry you need to leave so your children don't have to put up with one more minute of his shit, that's truly disgusting!

Nimbostratus100 · 05/05/2023 12:30

I am a positive person mostly and like to find solutions, not problems.😰

get rid of him today.

And dont be a "positive person that find solutions not problems" which doesnt excuse his behaviour, but is unbearable to live with

Mischance · 05/05/2023 12:33

He is currently blaming my kids for the deterioration of our relationship because they are here most of the time.

Ah - so he doesn't like being in a family then? Well off he should hop!