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Man And I Booked A Holiday. What Do You Think It Says?

33 replies

kpdchudleigh · 11/04/2023 18:32

I started online dating a year ago. Early on I connected with a man on all the apps but it took the Bumble match where I had to message first for us to get chatting. We had a very natural rapport from the outset but due to prior plans both of us had and a bit of distance we couldn't meet for a month.

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Babyandmexox · 11/04/2023 18:34

So what’s your question? Cos there isn’t very much context…

LauderSyme · 11/04/2023 18:39

It feels like you posted too soon...?

kpdchudleigh · 11/04/2023 18:47

Ooops, I wanted a new paragraph but looks like I posted. Sorry.

In the meantime I went on a solo holiday to Greece and during that week we got really close, talking on the phone and I fell for him. He was still sharing the sold house with his ex as completion was a few weeks away and she got angry one night at his speaking to me. I can see her point, he could have gone out to chat, it was a little like rubbing salt into the wound even though it was a large property, but maybe a pink flag?

When we finally met he did the long drive, rocked up with gifts and playing 'our' song, but although we spent the day together chatting and laughing it was clear he didn't find me attractive. There was an awkward hand hold initiated by me and nothing more.

But we kept in touch and sometimes over the last year it was flirty. Then in January he came up to visit again and was giving every sign he was treating it as a date, arranging a lovely restaurant and activities. It was a wonderful day! Toward the end I asked him what had changed and he explained that having the rug pulled on his 37 year marriage left him thinking he needed a woman who was a carbon copy of himself. He now realised a good relationship can benefit from some different interests and hobbies. The timing hadn't been right last year either. The whole day had been really huggy, affectionate, hand holding, but no kissing, and the same continued as we had coffee at my house. Nonetheless, after hugging on the sofa, he took himself off home and didn't want to stay.

Next day he messaged early and was keen to sort out another meeting asap. Then by the afternoon he was cooling, saying it would be in six weeks time, and putting out friend vibes again. I told him his mood swings gave me whiplash. But he added me as a FB friend all the same and I accepted because I do like his company and our values closely align.

Over the last couple of months he has started really engaging online, liking all my posts and I think we have both seen a more complex picture of the other, especially politically. Then this week has been a shocker for me with a death of an ex, my youngest dropping out of uni and some financial problems. This man has been on the end of my Whatsapp all the time and really lifted my spirits. So yesterday I thanked him, unusual in itself as we mostly stick to light conversation, jokes, banter, and he responded that he wanted me to go visit him in Cornwall soon. He joked I needed a passport but messages crossed and I thought he was talking about holidays so said I wanted to get back to Greece asap. He jumped on it and suggested we go. In May! So less that 24 hours later we are booked and off in four weeks.

We've agreed to share a room but he said we are going as friends without benefits. He's really excited though which is sweet. But I want to protect my emotional wellbeing and wonder whether he does have a romantic or sexual interest in me. Maybe he's been burned by his marriage and is scared to get involved again? What do you think? I'd value some other perspectives.

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kpdchudleigh · 11/04/2023 18:48

I forgot to say, we are going together to the same hotel I was in when I fell for him last year. He's aware of this added layer to the dynamic and hasn't expressed a problem with it.

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HellonHeels · 11/04/2023 18:52

I'd be booking my own room. You haven't even had a kiss yet, for me it would be awkward as anything sharing a room in those circs.

Also, has he paid his share yet? Just in case he goes cold again.

DatingDinosaur · 11/04/2023 18:53

Proceed with caution. Sounds like he knows you like him and likes that ego boost. From what you've written, he doesn't really see you as anything more than a friend. A female companion. He keeps blowing hot and cold with you to suit his whims and you're entertaining that because of how you feel about him.

NoWeaponsOnTheTable · 11/04/2023 18:53

Sorry to say I don't think you'll end up going together. He sounds very flighty.

CordyLines · 11/04/2023 18:53

Go with the intention of having a laugh and a good time, life is short. BUT... whatever you do, make sure you have enough money to get a different hotel/escape if things don't work out.

Other than that it's an adventure.

Sidge · 11/04/2023 18:54

You have acquired a companion. He’s made it quite clear he appears to have no sexual interest in you. You’ve known him a year and he hasn’t even kissed you.

If you’re hoping for a romantic and sexual relationship I think you need to keep looking. Sorry if that sounds harsh 😕

kpdchudleigh · 11/04/2023 18:55

I appreciate the comments. And he did transfer his share of the money prior to my booking so he's committed to at least turn up!

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Suzannargh · 11/04/2023 19:35

He could still drop out. At least it’s somewhere you like going solo!

Sounds like he sees you as a friend or companion and that’s it. Maybe he has a very low sex drive or is getting that part of his needs met elsewhere. I’d keep looking if I were you.

BillyNoM8s · 11/04/2023 19:41

I'm amazed you've waited as long as you have!

He's literally told you you're friend-zoned. If that's not what you want then I'd move on, sharpish. What if he meets someone he does want to shag while you're away together and you have to watch from your front row seat? No thanks.

Oopsiedaisyy · 11/04/2023 19:52

Definitely as the poster above suggested, this could be awkward

Does he not want to shag anyone, or just not you? You need to clarify

Spottycarousel · 11/04/2023 19:56

He doesn't sound committed unfortunately. I would be reluctant to hold any expectations of the holiday as otherwise it could end up in tears. If he didn't seem to find you attractive when you first met he's unlikely to change his mind now, this isn't personal to you just the fact initial meet ups tend to indicate sexual attraction or not. I'm guessing he likes you a lot as a friend and enjoys your company, but given the lack of a move I'd be reluctant to pin my hopes on him and would be continuing to date others. Just my thoughts.

GoodChat · 11/04/2023 20:03

You're going as friends. That's it. I'd just enjoy the friendship.

Mycatisfatafatcat · 11/04/2023 20:04

He’s clearly told you you’re going as friends and won’t have sex. He doesn’t fancy you. Could he be more clear? I’m confused!

2bazookas · 11/04/2023 20:05

NO WAY would I be sharing a room on that basis. For a week :-(( oh god, the pressure, lying awke listening to him breathing and wondering when he's going to make his move. . I'd insist on separate rooms.

The fact is most of your relationship, the most successful bits, have been on media, at a distance. Doesn't that worry you that he might not actually sustain real life contact for more than a couple of hours?

He began all this while still living with his wife. Big yuk

2bazookas · 11/04/2023 20:06

Mycatisfatafatcat · 11/04/2023 20:04

He’s clearly told you you’re going as friends and won’t have sex. He doesn’t fancy you. Could he be more clear? I’m confused!

so why share a room?

GoodChat · 11/04/2023 20:07

@2bazookas it's cheaper to share a room, is my guess. Or so he hasn't had to book it in his name so his ex wife can't check up on him.

Spottycarousel · 11/04/2023 20:09

The sharing a room might be because he rather likes knowing you fancy him. If so it's a bit of an ego boost for him!

Justmuddlingalong · 11/04/2023 20:13

I hope if you want a relationship, you're still looking in the meantime.
Don't hold off dating while he blows hot and cold.
He's friend zoned you, and it doesn't sound like that's what you were looking for.
Good on holiday by all means, but don't expect more than he's made it clear he's offering.

Zanatdy · 11/04/2023 20:30

I think as long as you know he doesn’t want to have a relationship or even friends with benefits then go and enjoy a holiday. Just be careful as you do want that and you could end up hurt. Either because he doesn’t change his mind on the holiday, or the sun, sea and Oozo goes to his head and he does have sex with you but then withdraws when you’re back home. Protect yourself from getting hurt

WhiteChocMocha · 11/04/2023 21:15

@kpdchudleigh what's the actual timeline, how long since he's left family home and been living on his own?

kpdchudleigh · 11/04/2023 21:30

I lost a considerable amount of weight this last year, a few stone, and became a gym bunny. When we met in January he has gained as much. So it was like a reversal of fortunes. I probably didn't make it clear that when he came back to my home after a really terrific day together he was amorous, we just didn't kiss. But there was some intimacy, stroking, nothing x rated but not chaste either. Apppropriate. He definitely did fancy me whereas it was me who had cooled.

I do love his company, it's natural being with him, but I am no longer a smitten kitten. I am just worried that wine, sun and a shared room might kick my feelings off again and I don't want to make a fool of myself. In the meantime, I'm still active on the apps so keeping my options open.

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kpdchudleigh · 11/04/2023 21:34

His marriage broke down a couple of years ago, and he did fall straight into a brief and ill thought through relationship, the one which was ended when I came on the scene. The house definitely sold and the ex wife is moved on.

I would happily give it a go if he offered me a relationship but having embarrassed myself once with him I won't be rushing into a repeat. There are so many mixed messages with him.

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