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He's mad at me for speaking out- who's in the wrong?

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Plummsie · 09/04/2023 08:50

I separated from my husband 6 months ago and we are talking about getting back together. He however can not forgive me for speaking out about our troubles. For years, I felt I was masking- attending his family events where I clearly was not welcomed or wanted by his mother. Trying to be polite when other people were being rude. Knowing that his sister was saying and things behind my back but trying to be civil. He constantly invalidated and dismissed me for years.

When we were together, I reached out on mumsnet a couple of times for support, particularly after my eldest child was born and MIL was making my life a total misery. I look back now and realise that she completely harrassed and belittled me and he did absolutely nothing to stop it. I reached out here for support and advice and got so much understanding and validation that I wasn't getting at home. He found out about me posting here and went ballistic, saying I'd betrayed him by writing about it online. He then began trolling mumsnet for a few years, reading post after post, checking if it was me, trying to stumble across anything at all which I may have written. He found one other post about him- he clearly recognised the events and was furious with me. He barely spoke to me for 2 weeks.

Since leaving him, I wrote a post on Facebook about our separation as having moved to his home town, I was lacking in friends and support. I also wanted people to know that I'd been unhappy and struggling after masking for so long. It was a factual post, saying that we'd broken up and that I'd been unhappy for a long time after having to deal with negative behaviour from his family.

It was a freeing moment for me and people messaged me and supported me, people who know the family offered me words of comfort and support telling me they weren't at all surprised...I.had no idea that others might have known what they were like before writing this post. I got so much validation. It has led to meet ups with others who used to be mere acquaintances and have since become my friends, other school mums have been a fantastic support to me. And it was through this honest, factual post that the support came.

However, a mutual friend informed my ex about the post and he is still reeling about it. He says he's "crushed" by it and compares me to an "immature teenager sharing personal information online."

I get what he's saying.
But he dismissed me for years and it feels freeing to speak my truth. There was another post I wrote more recently after a family member of his upset and manipulated my children and I wanted people to know because his family operates in devious, sly and manipulative ways and I wanted to out the behaviour. I have learned that revealing the behaviour and calling it out is important. He absolutely hates this. After limiting the viewers of the post, this still somehow got back to him through what he describes as "a loyal friend." I've told him that loyal friends don't stir trouble between exes but again, I am the problem for speaking out.

I get it, I do, using social media for this sort of thing is immature. But the two times I've done it has actually helped me. I want people to know how hard it's been and how crappy his family have treated me and now, how they're emotionally manipulating my children. He However says that it's just fuelling gossip and drama. Yet there is no support from him.

Aside from all of this, we get on very well and miss each other a lot. He however has never been mad at his family for the way they've behaved, much of which he admits they have done, more mad at me for speaking out about it. It feels like he expects me to live in an emotional prison and never speak the truth, as if we're supposed to put on some sort of show to the outside world. He says this is how you're supposed to live.

Who is the problem here? Who's in the wrong? Is it me?

OP posts:
Tomkirkman · 09/04/2023 10:10

Plummsie · 09/04/2023 09:56

Thank you for the responses.
I do totally understand where a lot of you are coming from re the two posts. It does come across as childish, immature and drama seeking.

Like a poster has said upthread "abuse thrives on secrecy" and I know that his mother is definitely a narcissist after years of her behaviour. I also knew that when I was out of the picture she would look for a new supply in one of my children, which she has. The things she has said to my eldest child recently have been extremely emotionally manipulative. She relies on her reputation to mask her behaviour and having no other way of minimising her emotional abuse on my child as her father will not stand up to her, I guess SM became a forum for me to out the behaviour, perhaps knowing that it might get back to her. I am willing if I am honest to continue outing her if she continues emotionally manipulating my children, if I'm being completely honest. I know how that would make me look- a drama queen, immature etc but I think it could be the only way to get her to back off my kids.

A narcissist won’t back off because you post on social media. What you are doing is feeding her attention and she will use it to appear the victim and you ‘crazy’.

What age are your kids? Do you think they will appreciate their family drama listed on FB? If not now, but when they are older?

Why do you want to get back with him If this is the situation.

and the ‘abuse thrives in silence’ is correct but not on FB. It’s doing absolutely nothing to stop her. You have people who are supporting you, so don’t remain silent, turn to them.

On the one hand you say his friend is causing trouble by telling him. On the other hand you wanted it to get back to her. So how is the friend causing trouble? They are doing your work for you. They are your flying monkeys.

PetitPorpoise · 09/04/2023 10:15

I don't think you should be getting back together.

He WBU to criticise you about Mumsnet, an anonymous forum, unless your posts were really identifying for people who knew you.

I don't think that you posting on Facebook was the right thing to do.

Jagoda · 09/04/2023 10:16

I don’t understand why you want to get back with him?

Just move on, and completely detach yourself from his family.

WheelsUp · 09/04/2023 10:21

The relationship is not going to work out until he confronts the points that troubled you in the first place. Pretending his mum didn't do what she did is going to land you in the same place because you went back to him knowing what she is like.
I understand why he's angry with the FB posts (have you unfriended the person who reported back to him? They are no friend of yours) but MN is anonymous and there's no way of strangers knowing who you are.

Dibbydoos · 09/04/2023 10:22

As much as you might miss him, he didn't support you.

Find someone who will support you.

Good luck moving away from the toxicity.

ClassicLib · 09/04/2023 10:24

You are entitled to talk about your personal & relationship problems on social media, if you find that helpful.
Your husband is entitled to find that unacceptable and consider it a betrayal of trust and red line in the relationship.
The question for both of you is : Why are you planning to get back together if you can’t agree or compromise on something which you both obviously consider to be an important issue?

rwalker · 09/04/2023 10:27

I just think post like that are unnecessary just screams bitter attention seeking

NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/04/2023 10:28

Don't take him back - he'll be punishing you forever (and monitoring your internet usage).

FictionalCharacter · 09/04/2023 10:30

"He however has never been mad at his family for the way they've behaved, much of which he admits they have done, more mad at me for speaking out about it. It feels like he expects me to live in an emotional prison and never speak the truth, as if we're supposed to put on some sort of show to the outside world. He says this is how you're supposed to live."

That is NOT how you're supposed to live. You're mad to think about getting back with him. They'll all make you just as miserable as they did before. He's having a go at you already.

Are you just frightened of being alone?

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 09/04/2023 10:32

Plummsie · 09/04/2023 09:56

Thank you for the responses.
I do totally understand where a lot of you are coming from re the two posts. It does come across as childish, immature and drama seeking.

Like a poster has said upthread "abuse thrives on secrecy" and I know that his mother is definitely a narcissist after years of her behaviour. I also knew that when I was out of the picture she would look for a new supply in one of my children, which she has. The things she has said to my eldest child recently have been extremely emotionally manipulative. She relies on her reputation to mask her behaviour and having no other way of minimising her emotional abuse on my child as her father will not stand up to her, I guess SM became a forum for me to out the behaviour, perhaps knowing that it might get back to her. I am willing if I am honest to continue outing her if she continues emotionally manipulating my children, if I'm being completely honest. I know how that would make me look- a drama queen, immature etc but I think it could be the only way to get her to back off my kids.

So he allowed his family to bully you, is more offended that you made it known they were bullying (and people agreed), he’s now allowing his family to bully your daughter, but you’re considering getting back with him?

Why?

Forget social media and revenge and the likes - he’s shown no inclination to defend you or your daughter so why get back with him?

He’s told you who he is and whose side he is on. Listen to him.

QueenBee1234 · 09/04/2023 10:37

I would cringe so hard if any of my friends or family posted what you have on Facebook!
I would also wonder if I would be the next person getting a post about some perceived slight, I would be giving you a wide berth in future that's for sure.
I don't think airing your dirty laundry on Facebook is going to achieve what you think it will, in fact it could be used against you.....people posting drama llama shit like that are not normally viewed as rational, fully functioning individuals.

RedHelenB · 09/04/2023 11:01

You're loving the drama obviously. Time to let it go and get on with your life, he and his family are still living in your head rent free by tge sounds of it. Yabu.

readbooksdrinktea · 09/04/2023 11:04

Jojobalone · 09/04/2023 08:59

Since leaving him, I wrote a post on Facebook about our separation as having moved to his home town, I was lacking in friends and support. I also wanted people to know that I'd been unhappy and struggling after masking for so long. It was a factual post, saying that we'd broken up and that I'd been unhappy for a long time after having to deal with negative behaviour from his family.

wtf??! I’m with him on this particular issue.

I am too. But given all that you're saying in your OP, why is getting back together with him even an option you're considering? It's not a good relationship.

PrincessofWellies · 09/04/2023 11:05

Publishing personal issues on Facebook and naming people is an awful thing to do. If you normally behave like that I would not want you as part of my family.

Iwantthepenthouse · 09/04/2023 11:12

Oh my god, do not get back together with him. Why would you?
He's a paranoid arsehole and his family are bullies.

What do you think will be different this time? Has anything improved with his family? Has he stood up to them? He's clearly still paranoid as he's banging on about a Facebook post.

Move on, too much drama!

Catwithbigfeet · 09/04/2023 11:15

You need to go no contact with him and his family
Block, block,block

MorrisZapp · 09/04/2023 11:16

Bin the whole lot of them, don't take him back, remove all of them from your social media. Anything else is just emotional self indulgence.

1AngelicFruitCake · 09/04/2023 11:20

I find anyone posting in that detail on Facebook to be attention seeking. I’ve had difficulties with my in laws but I’d never stoop that low unless one of them put something on Facebook directly about me, even then I’m not sure I really would. You’re clearly not suited, he for not supporting you and you for posting messages so publicly on Facebook. As soon as you post on Facebook people can screenshot it and share it.

SpecialMangeTout · 09/04/2023 11:23

I get what you are saying about abuse thriving on secrecy. And why you wanted to make it clear to everyone.

Doing so has allowed you to connect with new friends and get the validation you were looking for. Which is great. Because now you hopefully have people around you that have your back.

Where I don’t agree is to continue along that line.
People who agree with you have told you so. I doubt more people will come forward.
People who disagree/support your ex and MIL will use any new posts to attack you. Incl using that knowledge to manipulate your dc.

Instead you need to continue to build your network - I’d say offline so your ex and MIL doesn’t automatically know about it.
Teach your dcs about emotional manipulation. In general. So they can spot it when their gran is using it. Build their self confidence. Protect them as much as you can. Establish boundaries re visits etc….

Your best revenge is to live your best life and be happy.
Your best protection fir your dcs is to teach them to spot manipulation and abuse.
In some ways the worst you can do is to step down to their level.

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 09/04/2023 11:26

Why on earth would you get back with him? you'll be punished for ever.

BreviloquentBastard · 09/04/2023 11:35

You both sound like garbage people so you probably deserve eachother. At least if you're together you're not inflicting yourselves on anyone less deserving.

Purplecatshopaholic · 09/04/2023 11:38

SpecialMangeTout · 09/04/2023 09:26

He is going to make your life a misery again if you get back together.

You are allowed to get support. You are allowed to talk to other people about your struggles.

And he has NO RIGHT to tell you who you can talk to and what about when you are not together anymore.

Fwiw his attitude is exactly the same than if he was an abuser. Abusers don’t like you to have a support system in place. A way to check that you’re not unreasonable and that THEY are behaving badly.

He is telling you again who he is. Listen.

This. You are coming across as a bit of a drama llama - but this doesn’t give him the right to behave in a controlling way. And frankly he and his family sound horrible. Don’t take him back.

Karwomannghia · 09/04/2023 11:39

It sounds like you’re still having the same issues that contributed to your split. You said you found it freeing to split up so why would you lock yourself up again?

CleaningOutMyCloset · 09/04/2023 11:44

The issues that causes the initial breakdown of your marriage are still there, so if these haven't been resolved why would you think it would be different this time and why are you even considering getting back together?

You can choose to reach out to people for help and support in anyway you want to. He doesn't have to like it, but if you're thinking of getting back together he has to accept it. The same way you will have to accept that his family treat you badly. Nothing has changed op.

As the old saying goes 'the definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome'

Gingernaut · 09/04/2023 11:45

He dismissed your feelings, refused to stand by you against his toxic and manipulative family, they've upset your children and he's upset you've spoken out.

Stay away.

This will only carry on and he'll have your online posting to beat you over the head with.

You're better off without him