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He's mad at me for speaking out- who's in the wrong?

84 replies

Plummsie · 09/04/2023 08:50

I separated from my husband 6 months ago and we are talking about getting back together. He however can not forgive me for speaking out about our troubles. For years, I felt I was masking- attending his family events where I clearly was not welcomed or wanted by his mother. Trying to be polite when other people were being rude. Knowing that his sister was saying and things behind my back but trying to be civil. He constantly invalidated and dismissed me for years.

When we were together, I reached out on mumsnet a couple of times for support, particularly after my eldest child was born and MIL was making my life a total misery. I look back now and realise that she completely harrassed and belittled me and he did absolutely nothing to stop it. I reached out here for support and advice and got so much understanding and validation that I wasn't getting at home. He found out about me posting here and went ballistic, saying I'd betrayed him by writing about it online. He then began trolling mumsnet for a few years, reading post after post, checking if it was me, trying to stumble across anything at all which I may have written. He found one other post about him- he clearly recognised the events and was furious with me. He barely spoke to me for 2 weeks.

Since leaving him, I wrote a post on Facebook about our separation as having moved to his home town, I was lacking in friends and support. I also wanted people to know that I'd been unhappy and struggling after masking for so long. It was a factual post, saying that we'd broken up and that I'd been unhappy for a long time after having to deal with negative behaviour from his family.

It was a freeing moment for me and people messaged me and supported me, people who know the family offered me words of comfort and support telling me they weren't at all surprised...I.had no idea that others might have known what they were like before writing this post. I got so much validation. It has led to meet ups with others who used to be mere acquaintances and have since become my friends, other school mums have been a fantastic support to me. And it was through this honest, factual post that the support came.

However, a mutual friend informed my ex about the post and he is still reeling about it. He says he's "crushed" by it and compares me to an "immature teenager sharing personal information online."

I get what he's saying.
But he dismissed me for years and it feels freeing to speak my truth. There was another post I wrote more recently after a family member of his upset and manipulated my children and I wanted people to know because his family operates in devious, sly and manipulative ways and I wanted to out the behaviour. I have learned that revealing the behaviour and calling it out is important. He absolutely hates this. After limiting the viewers of the post, this still somehow got back to him through what he describes as "a loyal friend." I've told him that loyal friends don't stir trouble between exes but again, I am the problem for speaking out.

I get it, I do, using social media for this sort of thing is immature. But the two times I've done it has actually helped me. I want people to know how hard it's been and how crappy his family have treated me and now, how they're emotionally manipulating my children. He However says that it's just fuelling gossip and drama. Yet there is no support from him.

Aside from all of this, we get on very well and miss each other a lot. He however has never been mad at his family for the way they've behaved, much of which he admits they have done, more mad at me for speaking out about it. It feels like he expects me to live in an emotional prison and never speak the truth, as if we're supposed to put on some sort of show to the outside world. He says this is how you're supposed to live.

Who is the problem here? Who's in the wrong? Is it me?

OP posts:
TheCentreSlide · 09/04/2023 09:13

You can’t expect him to be happy about the laundry airing on Facebook.

Having said that, don’t get back with him - he sounds awful, just like his nasty family.

TessoftheDubonnet · 09/04/2023 09:14

Posting on MN is fine. Him stalking your posts was abusive.

Posting details about your situation on FB - sorry, but no. It's too close to washing dirty linen in public.

But the fundamental issue is that he does not have your back. When push comes to shove, he'll always side with his birth family. For this reason I would not get back with him.

I also feel that you need to assert and defend your boundaries. It's good to have supportive friends, but relying on validation from others to the degree you seem to can be risky.

Susieb2023 · 09/04/2023 09:15

You sound incompatible.

I personally could not be with anyone who posted anything about my family on Facebook, regardless of their behaviour, I’d still be very protective of those I love. It’s an awful thing to do.

As is him trawling through mumsnet for your threads.

Can’t imagine why you would even begin to think reconciliation is a good idea?!

category12 · 09/04/2023 09:15

category12 · 09/04/2023 09:00

I think if you wanted to get back together, you shouldn't have posted these things.

I don't think you should get back together as the issues you have aren't going to go away.

Can I just clarify, I meant on Facebook with this post, where people know you in real life.

When he was policing your mumsnetting, I'd consider that a controlling behaviour. Because this is an anonymous advice forum, I think it's fine to discuss what's going on.

WunWun · 09/04/2023 09:16

If he doesn't agree with you about the stuff with his family then absolutely nothing will change. Don't get back with him.

The Facebook stuff is 100% cringe.

mumofblu · 09/04/2023 09:18

We live in a country with freedom of speech and movement , this is your right

And I also say that if you aren't behaving well that's the problem if you don't want people to know something bad about you you shouldn't do it

Abuse thrives on secrecy

Sodd · 09/04/2023 09:20

OP you have a man problem, an unsupportive partner, it’s not worth being in a relationship with him. You should be able to talk about your issues with who ever you want but I would recommend talking in person to friends or relatives rather than Facebook posts.

Smartiepants79 · 09/04/2023 09:21

I also think posting inflammatory, personal stuff on Facebook is inviting drama and comment and always going to come back and bite you on the butt. It’s cringe and I do consider it immature.
Posting in an anonymous forum for advice and support is fine and he should not have trolled you.
The relationship as a whole does not sound healthy and he is not going to be a good partner to you.

DoTrollsShitInTheThreads · 09/04/2023 09:22

Scepticalwotsits · 09/04/2023 09:12

Two points from me

1 - he has a point
2 - don’t get back together because even if he has a valid point that doesn’t change the circumstances around what happened

This.
Don't put your private life on social media.
Don't get back with him.
...unless of course, you are a complete drama queen and are loving all the attention.

SpecialMangeTout · 09/04/2023 09:26

He is going to make your life a misery again if you get back together.

You are allowed to get support. You are allowed to talk to other people about your struggles.

And he has NO RIGHT to tell you who you can talk to and what about when you are not together anymore.

Fwiw his attitude is exactly the same than if he was an abuser. Abusers don’t like you to have a support system in place. A way to check that you’re not unreasonable and that THEY are behaving badly.

He is telling you again who he is. Listen.

gelatogina · 09/04/2023 09:26

The Facebook drama is embarrassing for both of you. But he doesn’t sound like a nice person at all.

AgnesX · 09/04/2023 09:29

I really don't understand why you're considering getting back together. Your problems don't seem to have been resolved and he's now extremely unhappy about your posting history.

I can't see how you're going to move forward.

Catwithbigfeet · 09/04/2023 09:31

I’m with him on the Facebook post but
you know that when you get back together this drama will start all over again.

Why do you even want to get back together when he didn’t have your back before ?
Nothing’s changed.

Each to their own.

Greenfairydust · 09/04/2023 09:33

I really would not get back with this man and put yourself in a place where you will have to deal with his awful family again.

Move on with your life.

You will like you have to walk on eggshells for the rest of your life if you go back to the same old toxic environment.

Powerof321 · 09/04/2023 09:34

Scepticalwotsits · 09/04/2023 09:12

Two points from me

1 - he has a point
2 - don’t get back together because even if he has a valid point that doesn’t change the circumstances around what happened

This

DatingDinosaur · 09/04/2023 09:36

I’d not be happy if my relationship breakdown was plastered all over social media. Personally, I don’t think social media is the place for that. An internet discussion forum is different. Because it’s anonymous.

I get that it was cathartic for you to get it off your chest, and maybe have the validation of other people who know you both’s pity and sympathy but it’s only one side of that story - how would you feel if he posted his version all over facebook painting you in a bad light and everyone offering sympathy to him?

Plus, if he was that awful, why are you considering a reconciliation?

Tread with caution if he’s instigating the reconciliation, given that you think he’s controlling and manipulative and you’ve badmouthed him all over social media. It might be a revenge attack on his part.

EyesOnThePies · 09/04/2023 09:44

I wouldn’t get back together with a man who has not stood up for you or supported you in the face of your family.

Communication between you was not and is not good if you get more from strangers on the internet than your own DH. His stalking and analysing posts is paranoid and controlling, or at the very least shows how actual trust and communication was / is lacking.

Never in a million years would I have posted about my relationship and details of the end on SM like Facebook. Talk individually and privately to friends, or in get togethers. However, think about the validation you got from those friends, compared to the way your ex is now blaming you and still not acknowledging your hurt over his family’s behaviour.

NotStayingIn · 09/04/2023 09:46

Honestly, no, it doesn't sound like a great idea to get back together for either of you.

90yomakeuproom · 09/04/2023 09:52

You're just airing your dirty laundry.
If you want to do that, it's up to you. But I can understand why he doesn't want his aired.

MrsCarson · 09/04/2023 09:56

He silenced you for years and now he wants to continue this. Your feelings and needs don't matter to him and never will.

Plummsie · 09/04/2023 09:56

Thank you for the responses.
I do totally understand where a lot of you are coming from re the two posts. It does come across as childish, immature and drama seeking.

Like a poster has said upthread "abuse thrives on secrecy" and I know that his mother is definitely a narcissist after years of her behaviour. I also knew that when I was out of the picture she would look for a new supply in one of my children, which she has. The things she has said to my eldest child recently have been extremely emotionally manipulative. She relies on her reputation to mask her behaviour and having no other way of minimising her emotional abuse on my child as her father will not stand up to her, I guess SM became a forum for me to out the behaviour, perhaps knowing that it might get back to her. I am willing if I am honest to continue outing her if she continues emotionally manipulating my children, if I'm being completely honest. I know how that would make me look- a drama queen, immature etc but I think it could be the only way to get her to back off my kids.

OP posts:
Jojobalone · 09/04/2023 09:58

So now you’re focussed is your manipulative mum

OP you sound all over the place and somewhat attention seeking

category12 · 09/04/2023 10:08

Plummsie · 09/04/2023 09:56

Thank you for the responses.
I do totally understand where a lot of you are coming from re the two posts. It does come across as childish, immature and drama seeking.

Like a poster has said upthread "abuse thrives on secrecy" and I know that his mother is definitely a narcissist after years of her behaviour. I also knew that when I was out of the picture she would look for a new supply in one of my children, which she has. The things she has said to my eldest child recently have been extremely emotionally manipulative. She relies on her reputation to mask her behaviour and having no other way of minimising her emotional abuse on my child as her father will not stand up to her, I guess SM became a forum for me to out the behaviour, perhaps knowing that it might get back to her. I am willing if I am honest to continue outing her if she continues emotionally manipulating my children, if I'm being completely honest. I know how that would make me look- a drama queen, immature etc but I think it could be the only way to get her to back off my kids.

Honestly your best bet is to detach from him and his family as much as possible.

DatingDinosaur · 09/04/2023 10:09

“if I am honest to continue outing her if she continues emotionally manipulating my children”

What do you hope to achieve by doing that? Do you think she’ll change or stop just because you posted it on social media?

At best, you’re making yourself look a fool. At worst she’ll have you in court for slander/defamation of character.

FirstnameSuesecondnamePerb · 09/04/2023 10:09

He does have a point about the social media stuff.
But clearly the relationship just doesn't work. You've made all that effort in splitting. Don't go back!

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