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Partner took DD out with woman he's cheating on me with

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DevestatedMumma · 16/03/2023 03:16

I just found out my partner and father of our two children is cheating on me. Our youngest is a month old, he’s just gone back to work after paternity leave.
As if that wasn’t bad enough I’ve just found out on the days he took our 2 year old out to do special daddy daughter activities during his leave he took her to various pubs for ‘lunch’ with a woman that he’s cheating on me with.
we have find my iPhone on but neither of us check it to the point we both forgot it was on, and I haven’t mentioned it simply because I now know he will lie to me about where he is with our daughter whilst ignoring me and keeping her out until gone 10pm (after saying he was in a cab back 3 hours earlier).
I remembered we share locations when after an hour passed from him saying he was booking a cab and then stopped responding to me and reading my messages (this was when he was only about 30 minutes away according to what he had told me)… so I looked he was half an hour away, but in a pub not where he said ge was.
I called him to ask what was happening and asked where he wee again by message, after 5 called being ignored he replied ‘I told you where I was, I’m booking a cab now’
at this point it was almost our daughters bedtime, he said he’d be back to put her to bed
another hour passed
and he said he was waiting for a cab but nobody was picking up and they kept cancelling. We share an Uber account usually and I opened it to see if it was going to take long, he hadn’t tried to book a cab at all.
another hour, it’s way past our two year olds bedtime at this point.
When I angrily demanded an answer to how long he’d be and said it was irresponsibile to be out so late with her, and offered to try and book a cab for him with another app suddenly Uber flashed up with searching, then stopped again. He said one picked up and that it was using another app that wasn’t Uber (again one we both use but not often). I know his old Uber login so I checked that, I don’t know what made me do it. But there was indeed a cab booked, picking them up in 1 minute and dropping them home by 10.24. with another drop off, an address of a woman he works with, this woman is one that I have been told he was very inappropriately close with to the point his colleague asked me if we’d split up.
I asked where he’d been when he got home and why he didn’t get the bus or train, as that would’ve gotten him back in 45 minutes, vs the 27 in a cab.
he repeated the place he’d told me he had been, I asked if he went anywhere else he said no, or seen anyone etc and asked me angrily if I don’t trust him with HIS daughter and implied I was saying he’s a shit dad.
He stank of drink and looked out of it, he’d had our 2 year old in a pub for over 4 hours. She was exhausted and had a filthy nappy and HADNT had dinner.
Every time he’s taken her out there’s always been delays on him coming home never this bad so I didn’t think about it. But he’d been home late from work for the same reasons and having to ‘stay late’ last minute.
When he went back to work he was supposed to get off early on the first 2 days to help me with bedtime (all agreed with his boss in writing), he told me he was stuck an extra hour & then trains and buses etc were delayed. 3 hours later he’s finally ‘almost back’
From 25 minutes after he finished work he had been sat in the pub down the end of our road insisting he was at work, and when I suggested he was lying he raged at me about how he was WORKING and I’d just have to deal with it.

I don’t want to tell him I know he lied because of sharing his location because I don’t want him to turn it off, as I need to know where our two year old is when she’s with him and he can’t be trusted to tell me the truth about that or get her home on time or even at a reasonable time.

I know he’s cheating.
I know he’s had our daughter around her.
I am almost 5 weeks postpartum & I am broken… i am disgusted.
I don’t want to let him take our daughter out and I don’t want him near me, but I have no family close and friends work full time with young kids of their own so have no other help. I am healing slowly from a traumatic brith so not ready to do it on my own fully yet, everytime I’ve dealt with both of them for extended periods of time it has caused pain and made my bleeding worse, so I don’t want to risk that being a problem just yet. I want to be healed enough to do it without him when I confront him.

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MichelleScarn · 16/03/2023 03:21

How on earth did it start he even had your child with him to go to the pub after work? Must have been some strange pubs too, as most pubs I can imagine would not serve anyone with a child with them more than 1/2 drinks, especially not if inebriated and definitely not that late at night. In fact back in my student days when worked in a pub, we called the police on someone behaving like your dh, they arrested him and think ss came too till they could work out who other parent was.

DevestatedMumma · 16/03/2023 03:31

It's local to his work where he took DD, and they let kids in and have previously let us stay later than allowed when we were waiting for a cab in bad weather (we'd been for dinner there one day), they are private owned and have young kids of their own who they allow to come downstairs into the garden area in the evening, they're not allowed in the main pub. DD has a dreadful cold now so I suspect they made him sit out back with her to stay so late!

As for the pub he was in down the road it was him there and I had DD home with me, had been alone with both her and the baby for 5 1/2 hours alone for the first time (movements limited due to birth and health complications), he was meant to be home early to do dinner, bath the 2 year old & do bedtime.

I've got another 4 weeks before the doctor will consider clearing me to lift more and be on my feet more without risk of further hospitalisation, and even that is the earliest.

At this point I don't care that he's cheating I'm just furious he's taken our daughter to witness it! And then had a go at me for being mad he was out way past her bedtime. Lying to my face because he thinks I don't know otherwise!

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Summer2424 · 16/03/2023 03:32

Hi @DevestatedMumma i am so sorry you're going through this. I totally agree with you, heal, get stronger then deal with this situation. Your partner is completely in the wrong.
Sending you lots of strength to get through this time x

Wereeaglesdare · 16/03/2023 03:38

If you have family even if they are not so close distance wise now is the time to get some support. You need to protect yourself and you need a good friend or family member to come stay I think this is classed as one of them situations where most family members will drop something because his behaviour is just despicable. Also I'd tell him the next time he takes your child to a pub and sits outside with her for hours while he gets pissed and he neglects her the next phone call you will make is to the police to come and collect her and then you will be reporting his sorry ass to SS. What an absolute POS. You need emergency family/friend support and you need to kick his ass to the kerb. You don't need this negativity around your little nest that is your safe space with your children that you built.

Mumma · 16/03/2023 04:02

Is it possible the stop at the womans house was to pixk the baby up because he was out in the pub and she was babysitting?? Pubs dont alow children after 9....

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/03/2023 04:04

Are you family supportive? Can they come and collect the 3 of you to stay with them for a while so that you can regain your strength? You need support. You’re very vulnerable right now by the sound of it.

Mumma · 16/03/2023 04:05

Also... nothing you said means he is cheating. Hes definitely an arsehole but he may not actually be 'cheating'. Cant really get it on in a pub... if they were at her house all night then maybe that would be evidence but that doesnt seem to be the case.

toucaninjapan · 16/03/2023 04:46

I'm so sorry you're going through this. Poor you and poor DD! What a piece of sh.. he is.
As PP said, you need to contact your family and explain what is going on, if a person dear to me had this situation, I wouldn't hesitate to go to another part of the country or getting them over to mine, because we have to be there for each other in these moments. I understand why you might be reluctant, but the best thing you can do for yourself and DD now is to get help and to heal.💐

TheHouseNextDoor · 16/03/2023 05:13

God he's awful OP, massive hand hold.

Get your ducks in a row, get better then leave him.

What an absolute shit of a man.

DeflatedAgain · 16/03/2023 05:44

Mumma · 16/03/2023 04:02

Is it possible the stop at the womans house was to pixk the baby up because he was out in the pub and she was babysitting?? Pubs dont alow children after 9....

Or an even scarier thought...

Could DD have been left there alone or with a stranger whilst he went to the pub with OW?

Really hope you're okay OP.

Sounds horrible 💐

HettySunshine · 16/03/2023 05:53

Is there any chance your parents or other family could come and get the three of you and take you home for a few weeks until you are well enough to leave him properly?

I appreciate it's a big ask with a new baby, but you really need to get away from him and have some loving reliable help.

Cassiehopes · 16/03/2023 05:57

I know you’re healing and it’s difficult but this isn’t fair on your daughter. You’ve just said she’s been kept out in a cold beer garden until late at night with no proper care in the form of nappy changes or food. That’s disgusting and it’s not fair on her. Can you leave now and take the kids to stay with your family - for their sake? The newborn will be stressed if you are stressed and the two year old sounds like she is being treated horrifically by her dad. You need to leave now if you can.

Zanatdy · 16/03/2023 06:01

I wouldn’t let him take the 2yr old to the pub again. If he wants to lie and cheat let him think of another excuse to do it. If you do have family I’d ask them to come and collect you all and stay for a good few weeks until you’re feeling stronger

Justforlaffs · 16/03/2023 06:13

Personally I would at this point put my dd first - don't give a shit about your partner and what he's up to.

Tell him he has been seen in a pub with this woman by a friend of yours and it's over. Then he won't have any reason to be taking your dd out with him while he sneaks around. Tell him she's welcome to him.

He is a disgusting piece of shit and a terrible father. To leave your dd without food and a filthy nappy is abominable. He clearly just cares about getting his kicks with this other woman whilst you are in pain and healing from having his child. What a betrayal to take your dd out with him to meet his bit on the side.

Im sorry op, you don't deserve this, but read the many many threads on here every hour of the day about the absolute shit men get up to on a daily basis - and often when their partners having just given birth or have small children. It's as if at that point they think they have you where they want you and can do as they please.

I sometimes just think men are an alien species, a lot of them just seem to run by their own moral compass (ie non existent).

Please reach out to family for support, you'll need it, don't suffer alone💐

Nowthenhere · 16/03/2023 06:27

This time of your life you should be enjoying your beautiful baby and having lots of support so you can bond more and more. With your birth injuries and trying to run round after a toddler the last thing you need is your support off having some sort of crisis and subjecting your eldest to neglect.

Phone your health visiting team in the morning. Ask them to come round and see if they can offer some guidance on local support.

Whilst your traumatic birth is likely to have effected all of you, your partner's neglect is just an awful way to treat his eldest. I wouldn't let him know how you know where he is either, it's a great safety back up if you need it in the future with your children.

I would probably contact all your children's family. Phone his mum/sisters/aunts and explain that you're 5 weeks postpartum and is there a chance they could come and stay to help/you stay with them.

If he is playing away his family will soon sort this out but the main thing is, they'll have the ability to go get your toddler and bring them back for dinner etc.

If you don't hear from him after a few hours and it's late you need to ring the police. Explain that your partner has your toddler and you're worried about your child's welfare and it's not the first time.

Campervangirl · 16/03/2023 06:33

Definitely time to get your ducks in a row.
Can you screenshot all his locations from find my iphone?
Make notes of where he was with dd, how long he was out, dd not having been fed and changed, what time he bought her back, the calls he's ignored from you wanting to know where dd was.
Tell someone in real life so you have support.
When you're healed or ready leave him or throw the arsehole out.
I'm so sorry this is happening to you ❤️

NewtoHolland · 16/03/2023 07:16

Your poor daughter. You need to get out is there any family you can go to. Bless her heart out till 10pm in a dirty nappy :(

LilLilLi · 16/03/2023 07:20

Do you have any real life support OP?

Any friends or family you can call on to come and stay with you while you heal so you can kick him out?

You do not deserve this, and your poor child being out so late with a dirty nappy and no food is disgraceful x

Thisisworsethananticpated · 16/03/2023 07:26

Heal first
as total priority
can you talk to NHS and explain what’s going on a mind get a sympathetic ear ?

plus tell people in RL
get it out into the open

then divorce lawyer when you feel able

total cunt , this really is beyond the pale x

Doesthepopeshitinthewoods · 16/03/2023 07:30

It’s so awful that men this shit exist.

He’s a shit father (cannot believe he treated his daughter that way) and a shit partner and a total cunt generally.

Coxspurplepippin · 16/03/2023 07:31

Wait until you feel better physically. You're recovering so need to rest as much as possible. Get help from family.

Do you have family members who could go to pub to confront him if he's there with affair partner? Although it seems strange he would take affair partner to a pub where you're both known and the landlords know he has a new baby and a wife at home - although they can't be very nice people if they're prepared to let him sit in their pub with a toddler who's way past her bedtime and with a dirty nappy.

Get all your documents together and use this time to your advantage.

KalvinPhillipsBoots · 16/03/2023 07:35

Report him to SS and boot him out, it's dam right negligent what he done with your daughter. You deserve better OP, please don't fight for him. He chose her over doing right by your daughter, lied to you and did not care.?

Milamight · 16/03/2023 07:38

I can't believe what I have just read. He is absolutely despicable and a neglectful parent. I would absolutely not let him take my child anywhere as he cannot even fulfil her basic needs of food and a clean nappy. I feel so sad for you that you are dealing with this post partum when you should be surrounded by love and support. Please surround yourself with family and loving friends and get rid of this man. I wish you all the best. X

Whatisthisanyidea · 16/03/2023 07:41

I’d be looking at staying elsewhere - you have the opportunity here to sort your life out before telling him you’re leaving.

Start taking control and get things in place. Documents, savings, take notes on his ineffective parenting - times dates neglect - everything will help.

DevestatedMumma · 16/03/2023 08:29

Mumma · 16/03/2023 04:02

Is it possible the stop at the womans house was to pixk the baby up because he was out in the pub and she was babysitting?? Pubs dont alow children after 9....

No it wouldn't have been a stop at to pick her up, as he's not allowed anywhere near her house. The word woman is used loosely she's 21 and lives with her parents who don't like my partner because of his age and they know his mum who told him all the story's from his past where he cheated etc when he was younger and how he previously was accused of cheating on me (those were false accusations). Also they had mentioned to his mum when they saw her that he spent a lot of time with their daughter that was when they were informed he had a partner and young children at home.

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