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Forgiving an abuser!?

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Forgiving83 · 06/03/2023 13:24

I’ve done a lot of reading about abuse after leaving my 10 year abusive marriage a few years ago. I sometimes now feel the same emotions like anger and frustration a lot like my husband did towards me.

He was abused by his father and when he was triggered he reacted. I now am dealing with the same issues only he has given these to me. I now deal with traumatic memories and my nervous system is really on edge a lot. His father did it to him and he did it to me. I want people to forgive me when I am triggered (I’m not on the same level as him, I tend to withdraw instead of hit out).

Should you forgive him? He has caused me a great deal of stress and my health has suffered because of that relationship. He was only acting out his traumatic childhood on me. It is up to him to fix his problems though like I am trying to do. It is hard to not react when you have been abused. I still struggle with noise, I can’t take too much noise as it puts me on edge.

He has not fixed himself though and has moved on to another lady. We share a child and he does have this victim issue, he has to be the one who was wronged. He tells our child lies in order to look like the victim. The relationship was toxic. If he felt wronged I was in trouble.

I can empathise with him but I still have feelings like I hate him. I also struggle with the fact I let him treat me so poorly.

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Forgiving83 · 09/03/2023 12:32

He told her as soon as she is old enough and can choose she can live with him. That’s a very long time away to make promises.

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Quitelikeit · 09/03/2023 13:09

Well that is true but by then she will see him for his true colours

you can only control yourself and your home - make it a nice positive one. Don’t talk about the ex. Don’t talk him down.

kids are not stupid but at 7 year old she knows nothing of the world so she is being manipulated

when he moves in with his woman then he will get nasty

no surprise things are good they don’t live together so he has no hold or power over her

but why don’t they live together if they have a baby

Forgiving83 · 09/03/2023 13:15

@Quitelikeit I think he has moved in but also has kept his flat. He spends some nights there with dd. Probably so he can tell her things without the girlfriend hearing.

Who talks to their kid about living arrangements when just starting contact after 3 years. Who would bring that up, I doubt she would. It’s really unnecessary and must be shaking her foundations. She has become worried about daddy and feeling sorry for him. He always clinging onto her at drops off and they both crying. She is probably feeling guilty that she living predominantly with me is making him sad.

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Quitelikeit · 09/03/2023 13:32

What a pathetic excuse of a man he is.

You should secretly record these handovers - maybe from a doorbell or similar? incase you need to prove in the future he is emotionally harmful

No one in their right mind would do that in front of their child

Also do not watch this play out

Why not get someone else to go to the door or be there at drop off?

Im sure he’d feel embarrassed crying like a baby then!!

Quitelikeit · 09/03/2023 13:33

Realistically I’m surprised the girlfriend is happy living separately if there is a child between them

How bizarre!!!

Forgiving83 · 09/03/2023 13:38

He is most definitely special, very VERY emotional. It does make you feel special that someone loves you that much so I don’t blame dd at all that she wants more, I did, it’s addictive until you realise how much it will cost you.

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SunshineLoving · 09/03/2023 13:41

No, I couldn't ever forgive him if I was you. He knew full well what he was doing. He was an adult. No excuses.

Quitelikeit · 09/03/2023 14:01

Yes but that is a abusive tactic to reel you in and very cunning too

I bet if his girlfriend was at drop off he wouldn’t burst into tears

the man is a joke

Forgiving83 · 09/03/2023 14:20

Who knows. Nothing he does makes much sense. He’s not right in the head.

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dizzydizzydizzy · 09/03/2023 14:27

I think the bad childhood is a red herring,
OP. He is an adult and knows he is doing wrong but believes he has the right to do it.

My DP is an abuser but was not abused as a child.

Forgiving83 · 09/03/2023 14:33

@dizzydizzydizzy im starting to believe it was all a lie conducted to make me feel sorry for him, it worked tho. It made the courts feel sorry for him and it’s given him an excuse. I’m starting to wonder if anything he ever said was ever real.

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dizzydizzydizzy · 09/03/2023 14:35

That sound entirely plausible @Forgiving83.

Have you been on touch with Women's Aid? They run a course called Keys to Freedom which teaches you about abuse. I did it and it really opened my eyes.

Abusers are manipulative and will find your weak points to weasel their way in and harm you.

Forgiving83 · 09/03/2023 15:12

@dizzydizzydizzy i did the freedom programme not long after leaving mid nervous breakdown.

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dizzydizzydizzy · 09/03/2023 15:20

Good! Did you find it helpful?

Forgiving83 · 09/03/2023 15:33

Yeah in a way but it made me feel worse, I was very traumatised at the time. It’s only years later I can look at what happened without triggering my ptsd.

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