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Uncovered some truth not sure how to feel about it

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SAH07 · 25/02/2023 05:25

Here I am awake early hours thinking about the events of the past few days not sure how to feels, it helps to write it down. Sorry its long.

Been with DH a long time, 2 teenage children, one with SEN and a new health diagnosis last year that has changed his life and independence and impacted family life.

I recently found a receipt on DH desk for lunch for 2, including 2 glasses of wine near his workplace, something didn't feel right about it, when asked was told it was a male colleagues and he was claiming expenses for it.

This week I'd been using DH ipad for zoom and his ipad beeped late at night with some zoom messages and I looked at them. Until this point I'd not realised there was a messaging service on this so was more intrigued what it was. I saw a message about a social event he was due to attend at the weekend, which he'd told me was a work event but clearly was arranged by his own colleagues in which they would all have to pay. Next day I casually asked about his night out without divulging that I'd read the messages, he swore blind it was paid for by work arranged by a client, he does have to go out with clients a lot, but would never have to pay for this himself. I told him I knew that it wasn't and after probing he confessed that he had lied. I felt so upset, more so because if he lied so convincing about this what else does he lie about. He is away on business at least one night per week. And I've very recently had an operation and my dad has had a stoke. He knew I wouldn't be happy about him going out socially under the circumstances. Too right.

Later that week I'd used his ipad again and just decided to snoop, as something didn't feel right. I found a conversation on zoom between him and a work colleague who I didnt know existed. Lots of banter, slightly flirty, nothing about feelings for each other, but someone that he is sharing lots of personal stuff about our marriage. Someone who he is meeting for lunch. Oh and to throw it in is attractive. I felt sick reading this, he usually tells me about his colleagues, but more so that he struggles to talk to me or show me emotions and yet, he is opening up to this woman I don't know exists .

I confronted him and he told me they are just friends, swears that he only has lunch with her in a group. Etc. I tell him I know of their lunch dates, and that one was arranged whilst I was laying in my hospital bed waiting for my op, a bag of nerves whilst he was sitting next to me. That hurt so much. He is always too busy to take a lunch break with me, but can set aside time for her. When confronted again he confesses that yes he does meet her for lunch. Swears again only friendship. I tell him that she's not a friend because I know nothing of her, and it's an emotional affair. He has shown me full access to other work emails and indeed it does look as though it's not physical. I tell him that whilst now it's emotional it has already crossed the line and is on a slippery slope. He messages her to tell her I've found the messages which are probably inappropriate. She responds apologising and that she doesn't want to upset me and agrees to keep it professional.

I dont know where to go from here. Yes there have been troubles in our marriage, life with DS is incredibly difficult, which puts pressure on us and DH struggles with his mental health. We have talked for hours and it's feels as though we've been able to be honest to each other. But here I am early hours still feeling hurt about the lies, hurt that I didn't know thst DH is even able to open up like that, hurt that someone I don't know has so much insight into our marriage. He tells me he doesn't fancy her, who knows he was so convincing with his lying. I'm not sure how to trust him when he is away.

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WidthofaLine · 25/02/2023 13:33

So she is married too.

That's good, she obviously need some help with her marriage too, you could help her.
Have you taken screen shots of all the messages and emails ?

Ask your husband for her husband's phone number, if he will not give it to you, you basically have the answer of how appropriate this friendship was.
Your h is going to have to trust you to not forward the messages onto her husband.

Trust.

Personally if you do have her husband's number, it would be nice for him to be in on the conversation.
Your husband will use your shame and embarrasment to cover his secrets, get it all out in the open, just like his marriage troubles, maybe her husband could help your husband too. 😉

SandraCumin · 25/02/2023 13:40

The only thing you can do is leave him now because if this hasn’t already gone into affair territory, it will soon.

As others have said, there’s a reason why these ‘friends’ are always young and attractive females. He wants in her pants and the only thing stopping him right now is her.

Chuck his iPad in the bin and walk out with your head held high.

sunglassesonthetable · 25/02/2023 22:18

Sounds like EA affair territory to me.

Deception, betrayal of trust, being closer to someone else than to a spouse, disclosing details of your relationship to them.
It's a classic really.

I believe you can move on from this. BUT and it's a big but, you both have to want to and you both have to put in the hard yards.

MsDogLady · 26/02/2023 06:22

SAH, I don’t buy H’s justification for repeatedly lying — that he knew he’d
over-shared and wanted to protect you. No, he was scrambling to protect OW and their relationship.

This wasn’t a platonic friendship that he was sourcing for advice. He’s been pursuing OW and using your private information to get close to her. This is secrecy and over-familiarity and flirty banter and lunch dates with wine. It’s him in your hospital room reaching out to OW to make lunch plans. It’s his agenda to manipulate you with lies so he could meet her at the night out.

Both H and OW are in damage limitation mode now that they’ve been rumbled. Be aware that they’ve been creating an intimate EA bubble, which is an intoxicating dynamic that is difficult to abandon. They may lie low for a while before resuming and escalating their connection. I wouldn’t trust that he will stay distanced from her, and you won’t know how they’re interacting in person.

Perhaps you should consider IC for support as you process all of this and make decisions.

frazzledasarock · 26/02/2023 06:33

He’s lied. He knew what he was doing was crossing a line.

confiding in an attractive member of the opposite sex, making time for her when he’s too busy to take time out for lunch with you. Spending weekends away with her when you need him at home being together as a family and helping with a child with additional needs.

all of this utterly inappropriate and paving the way for an affair.

OP do you work? Keep a very close eye on family finances, and make sure you have own source of income and a savings pot.

id have checked his phone and iPad messages too under these circumstances.

how would he feel if you had been behaving how he has been and lying to him and leaving him on his own on weekends to get on with and care for your children and house whilst you waltzed off to unnecessary weekend conferences with a sympathetic attractive male workmate?

SAH07 · 26/02/2023 10:14

frazzledasarock · 26/02/2023 06:33

He’s lied. He knew what he was doing was crossing a line.

confiding in an attractive member of the opposite sex, making time for her when he’s too busy to take time out for lunch with you. Spending weekends away with her when you need him at home being together as a family and helping with a child with additional needs.

all of this utterly inappropriate and paving the way for an affair.

OP do you work? Keep a very close eye on family finances, and make sure you have own source of income and a savings pot.

id have checked his phone and iPad messages too under these circumstances.

how would he feel if you had been behaving how he has been and lying to him and leaving him on his own on weekends to get on with and care for your children and house whilst you waltzed off to unnecessary weekend conferences with a sympathetic attractive male workmate?

Hi, he wasn't going away for the weekend with her, it was a night out

I do work, recently gone back full time so earning better money and could support us.

I actually messaged the 'friend' yesterday. I feel a lot better about it

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