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Red Light District

120 replies

Prawnsma32 · 31/01/2023 11:31

Just out of curiosity, how many of you would NOT mind your partner visiting the Red Light District during a stag party to Amsterdam.

OP posts:
Naunet · 31/01/2023 14:36

baileys6904 · 31/01/2023 14:29

Get over myself? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Says the person who thinks they're important or impactful enough to actually register on my 'give a shit' meter.
Let me try and be clear:

  1. I posted with an opinion
  2. Another poster quoted my post
  3. You then responded to that other person about my post as if they know my thought process behind it.
  4. Rather than admit the mistaken identity, you decide to just fire off a bit more.

Cracking job for a Tuesday ❤️

Ha! I suggest you re-read, it seems you’ve been unable to follow the conversation.

I’m not engaging in your attempt to derail even further.

GoodChat · 31/01/2023 14:40

OP's done a number on you lot, hasnt she. One inflammatory post and run and you're all fuming at each other Grin

Iflyaway · 31/01/2023 14:42

from about midday onwards the central part becomes pretty fucking gross. In my opinion.

Too right. Crawling with annoying tourists who shuffle along in groups, most locals avoid it.

RLD is o.k. It's very safe. I used to work on the edge of it in a restaurant.

The only time I go now is when I have English/Irish friends around. They want to check it out. I perch on a terrace and people watch.

The local council wants to move the whole shebang to the edge of town in one building. It's too busy now and in fact becoming a danger..... imagine the fire engine trying to get through the throngs of tourists that are 10 in a crowd in a tiny street.

GoodChat · 31/01/2023 14:43

Amsterdam's lovely. I've managed to go loads of times without ever accidentally having sex with a prostitute.

Iflyaway · 31/01/2023 14:43

Because of where it is and how Amsterdam is laid out, often you need to go through it to get to other parts of the city anyway. Especially if you’re arriving into Centraal station.

Not true.

baileys6904 · 31/01/2023 14:47

Naunet · 31/01/2023 14:36

Ha! I suggest you re-read, it seems you’ve been unable to follow the conversation.

I’m not engaging in your attempt to derail even further.

Awww cheers sweetcheeks, but I can follow more than one conversation, which it seems may be where it falls over for you.

Pleased you're stopping with the engagement though. Good job 👍

Vaselining · 31/01/2023 15:01

Never. It always begins with 'just looking'.

Iflyaway · 31/01/2023 15:21

In the same quarter as the red light district is the Resistance museum

Not true. It's opposite the entrance to the zoo, completely different area with a different name.

Gosh, some people talk a load of shite about facts on here. 🙄

Neverhand · 31/01/2023 16:37

Iflyaway · 31/01/2023 14:43

Because of where it is and how Amsterdam is laid out, often you need to go through it to get to other parts of the city anyway. Especially if you’re arriving into Centraal station.

Not true.

I agree with this. It can be avoided. I've been on the edge a couple of times. But I don't believe most people are there by accident. They're there to nosy. Nosy at the paid rape trade. What jolly hen night fun!

Neverhand · 31/01/2023 16:40

As in went once when young, saw " it " and left. And then over years of going there for work I DID accidentally find myself on the edge when walking about to meetings etc...but one can remove oneself very easily. Some of these posts make it sound like it's an inevitability to walk through there and gawp. The smallest alleyway - where I was told the youngest girls are - you have to make a bit of an effort to be fair. Pretty obvious what's going on and how totally despicable most of the men there are. Stag nights or not.

Spottypaperdoll · 31/01/2023 16:44

Amsterdam is a beautiful city, the red light district is a bit weird, I walked by and it wasn’t how I imagined it would be.
If men are going on a stag there, chances are they will be going in a bar/club. I wouldn’t be bothered if they didn’t pay for anything and weren’t disrespectful. If they were just sitting at the bar embarrassed (as I guess most men are) then that’s ok.

Namechanger355 · 31/01/2023 16:48

Am finding this thread really odd. Many of these women are literally being trafficked hey people are ok with walking past them to gawp at them as a means of entertainment

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 31/01/2023 16:54

He would find his property in bin bags on the step when he came back. Apart from that, fine.

Naunet · 31/01/2023 16:56

Namechanger355 · 31/01/2023 16:48

Am finding this thread really odd. Many of these women are literally being trafficked hey people are ok with walking past them to gawp at them as a means of entertainment

Yep, it’s horrifying that some see this as light entertainment.

Vaselining · 31/01/2023 18:23

You should check out the works of Brooke Magnanti. For the vast majority of sex workers, it's liberty and freedom.

Choconut · 31/01/2023 18:46

A drunken stag party that wants to go and have a 'look' at prostitutes. Nah I'm not a cool wife, it would be a no from me.

EarthlyNightshade · 31/01/2023 18:59

I went for a wander through there in my early 20s when I was in Amsterdam for a work thing. I literally went for a gawp to see what it was like.
I know a lot more now and am embarrassed at my younger self.
Stag party going there would not be a deal breaker for me, but DH knows how I feel about the trafficking of women/girls and I would kind of hope he'd find a way to avoid that part of the weekend.
Quite shocked really at the number of people here who think it's totally fine.

JackieDaws · 31/01/2023 19:09

Vaselining · 31/01/2023 18:23

You should check out the works of Brooke Magnanti. For the vast majority of sex workers, it's liberty and freedom.

She's a nice white middle class woman who could charge hundreds an hour. She was also independent and didn't have a pimp or a 'driver'.

I highly doubt the women in Holbeck command the same price, or do it for liberation and empowerment.

Naunet · 31/01/2023 19:17

Vaselining · 31/01/2023 18:23

You should check out the works of Brooke Magnanti. For the vast majority of sex workers, it's liberty and freedom.

Yeah, it’s liberty and freedom that’s why all the powerful people of the world do it, especially men…

ouch321 · 31/01/2023 19:35

Been once. Found it quite sad.

But you cannot expect people on Mumsnet to hold the same view in the large as most here are very pro pornography / casual sex etc and well, you can see the link.

I am not surprised at all, therefore, that people are describing it as 'fun' and 'cool'.

Dullardmullard · 31/01/2023 19:38

No I wouldn’t be fine with it at all it’s bloody grim and my husband wouldn’t walk through thinking this is fun either.

Amsterdam they are on display for all to see
Any major UK city, no they are not.
so the under belly of it isn’t the damn same at all. It’s worse because it’s been normalised.

legalised prostitution wouldn’t be safe at all look at Germany

AccidentallyRunToWindsor · 31/01/2023 19:55

Couldn't give a fuck. It's a tourist area, as long as he diddnt do anything (which I know he wouldn't) then have fun. There was a cracking Vietnamese restaurant there

Lookingoutside · 31/01/2023 20:03

I would be very uncomfortable with a partner using a sex worker.

Going ‘for a walk round’ would almost be worse. It’s not a fucking zoo.

BubziOwl · 31/01/2023 20:08

Well even if we're just talking about the novelty tourist aspect, I would be questioning what I thought I knew about my husband's character if he thought it was a good laugh for him and a group of rowdy men to go and gawp at potentially trafficked, abused, and vulnerable women.

ManAboutTown · 31/01/2023 22:33

As a bloke I wouldn't expect my partner to be upset on a one off stag do. I've been to the Banana Bar and a couple of other joints on stag dos and weekends away. Also went to the Sex Museum on the Damrak - the S & M section would make anyone wince

To be honest after about 30 mins its all pretty boring - some of the regular bars int he red light district are much more fun and there are plenty of other areas around the City to have a good time

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