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Husband prioritises sick mother over me and baby

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Disgruntledwife2023 · 12/01/2023 17:16

There is a fair bit of backstory here... My husband and I have been together over 10 years and married for just over 6. His mother was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in spring 2016. I was there for all the tests, the hospital stay, was driving across the city every day after work for over a week to the hospital to be there to support them etc. We then got married very quickly (within 6 months) because we didn't think she would have long. I planned the whole wedding by myself as well as moving house to live with husband during that period, and getting a puppy together. We never had a honeymoon and instead went away with his parents for 2 weeks. On our first wedding anniversary, my husband went on holiday with his mum, also missing my birthday (without discussing this with me at all).
I spent 6 years commuting over 1 hour and then this became 1.5 hours each way so that we could live 5/10 mins drive from his parents. We have been away on holiday with his parents nearly as many times as we have been away together as a married couple.
I finally had a bit of a breakdown with the commuting and we decided to move to be closer to my work (I am a teacher) and I also moved to work part time for my mental health. Within a month his parents moved 10 mins drive from us and spent a week living with us before they could move in.
Throughout the Covid pandemic, my husband was constantly on edge that I as a teacher would catch Covid and infect him and he would then infect his mum. I was so super careful about this and really anxious to avoid this happening but nevertheless he would ask me on a regular basis about had I had contact with positive people, if I was going out somewhere reminding me all the time about masks and hand sanitiser etc. In the end, it was his dad who caught Covid when I was 8 months pregnant. I then said yes to his mum coming to live with us even though she had therefore been exposed. My husband basically moved into the spare room with her as she needs assistance walking and going to the bathroom. It turned out she had caught Covid from his dad and then my husband also got it. She had a bad reaction and had to go into hospital for a few days, and when she left for hospital, it turned out she had wet herself and vomited all over the spare room bed. I carried the mattress out to the garden and spent hours scrubbing at it - at 8 months pregnant. My husband barely thanked me.
More backstory - his dad shows 0 interest in me at all, still doesn't know what I do for a job (I am a languages teacher - it's not that hard to remember...) and creates lots of conflict with my husband every holiday we go on together. Once he took off at 3am and left his wife (who was very ill at that point having deteriorated) with us for us to sort out getting her home in our car.

I thought now that we have a baby together that we would become his priority. I ended up having a traumatic birth and a emergency c section delivery. On the day this happened, he was pushing for his parents to come to the hospital. Fortunately the visiting hours didn't work out! The following day when we came home, he had his parents come over and his dad made comments about me looking fat and asked how long it would take for me to look normal again. At first, my husband was sympathetic to me being upset at this, but then told me I am overly sensitive and I should now his dad by now doesn't mean bad by those comments. I needed a lot of care for the first couple of weeks as I couldn't drive, couldn't stand up or sit down or get out of bed by myself. Still, my husband didn't do any housework and only offered to cook for me once. As soon as I was more able he was back to having his parents over all the time or going round to theirs, and commented that he feels bad for spending the time at home with me rather than looking after his mum.
I ended up feeling extremely depressed, even suicidal, and highly anxious in the first couple of months. I felt like I had no support and wasn't a priority. I voiced all this but was essentially told it can't be any other way. My husband works 3 days a week and before Christmas all of these were from home. He was still seeing his parents three times a week on average and making time for bike rides, gym sessions, and online language lessons, plus developing an app he is working on. Meanwhile I was still doing all the housework, arranging everything for our baby like health checks and a passport for her so we could go on holiday with his parents at Christmas, and cooking for all of us.

During the first 6 weeks he also tried to get me to let him take our baby daughter to his parents place without me. She is breastfed. He tried to get me to agree to using formula so he wouldn't need me to be there. I was distraught at this and couldn't bear the idea. He finally relented but then would raise the subject a couple of days later again and this went on and on until he realised I just couldn't agree to this and so his parents would come round ours every other day.

The holiday at Christmas fell through because his dad hadn't been organised enough to arrange more medication for his mum before going and I lost hundreds of pounds I had spent on flights there and back. I had also spent so much mental energy getting myself feeling robust enough to fly with a 2.5 month old whilst still managing my depression and anxiety.

My husband also blocked my parents coming to stay with us in October, a month after our daughter was born and on my birthday, saying he would feel it was an intrusion on his space. This was after they had had a row in the summer when they came to stay with us (I was 6 months pregnant) and my husband spent the whole time up in his office playing computer games.

Finally I persuaded my husband to let my parents stay at the end of December and it made a world of difference to me to have my mum around cooking dinner and just knowing she and my dad were there for me and I could rely on them. Finally I no longer felt depressed and my self esteem was getting better.

In the meantime I have flagged up to my husband on multiple occasions that I'm not happy with the state of our marriage. I have voiced that I feel like I'm not a priority and things need to change. He has finally agreed to do more housework, he now empties the dishwasher, hoovers and wipes the kitchen surfaces once a week (I do these all the other days a week...). And he walks the dog when he is around - but in reality he is now going into the office one day a week and helping out at his parents on the other days.

He has again now raised the issue of taking our daughter to spend time with his parents without me and that I am not meeting his emotional needs by not being okay with this. I said actually I would probably be fine with it if he can let me know the day before so I can pump milk for him to take. Apparently that's not good enough and he wants to be able to go at a moment's notice and doesn't care about her having a nap schedule etc.
He hasn't been helping out at all with nappy changing, bath time, bedtime, coming to any baby classes or appointments on the days he isn't working. He has only just started playing and reading to her at my suggestion. He said he wasn't doing any of that stuff because it was too painful for him to accept I can't let him take her without me spontaneously to his parents.

For context- his mum's cancer hasn't got any worse in 6 years, but she now can't walk unassisted and struggles with speech. She needs help with basic tasks like bathing, bathroom, eating, and getting dressed - largely from the radiation therapy that she was treated with. His dad is only just pursuing getting some help with carers.

I'm at breaking point in our marriage. I have started to contact mediators and solicitors for separation to understand how this would work. I know I've partly engineered the situation by allowing myself to be on the back burner our whole marriage, but I thought him becoming a father would change things and it hasn't. I don't want our daughter to grow up seeing me not being prioritised and think therefore that it's okay for her to not be number one for her future partner.

If you're still reading - well done! I'm sorry it's so long, but it has been years of this and I feel like the examples are relevant.

Am I being unreasonable? I am so scared about starting a separation / divorce process, but I feel like I need to think about our daughter and what we model for her in a marriage.

OP posts:
Disgruntledwife2023 · 12/01/2023 20:49

I would struggle financially tbh, but what I have found out about the separation & eventual divorce process is reassuring in that regard - that he would basically have to make sure I am okay as I am looking after our child. I know my parents would help me too.

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TicketMasterMind · 12/01/2023 20:51

Velvetween · 12/01/2023 20:40

The terminally ill mother is a red herring in all of this.

OP he won’t be any different when his mother passes. He will find something else very important to occupy himself with, or his grief will take priority (which in itself is not wrong, but there’s a massive bigger picture here…).

Leave and build AN ACTUAL LIFE for yourself and your daughter not this mere existence.

I agree with this.

Get legals moving ASAP.

A breast fed baby doesn’t do overnights - might but be until she is 2?

He might attempt 50:50 just to punish you and threaten you - but he won’t carry that out practically for very long if ever. He’s a lazy sexist pig - he won’t be picking up after a child. Play the long game with that one.

Get sorted, get supported and get out - you and your baby will have a much better life without him.

toocold54 · 12/01/2023 20:54

Just end the relationship.

This isn’t one thing, it’s an ongoing issue with many things.

Are there any positives to the relationship?

There’s issues with him spending too much time with his mum - take her out of the equation.
Then there’s issues with his dad - take him out of the equation.
Then there’s issues with him being rude to your family - take them out of the equation.
Then there’s issues with him playing computer all day - take that out of the equation.
Then there’s issues with him making you do all of the housework etc - take that out of the equation.

I could keep going but ultimately my point is that he is at the centre of all of these problems.

His mum and dad are irrelevant as even if they decide to move away, there will still be massive issues.

I’m really struggling to see what he brings to this relationship and why you stay.

How old are you?
Have you stayed this long because you wanted a child?
Do you want a second child?

RedBea · 12/01/2023 20:56

You don’t want your daughter growing up thinking this is okay & setting low standards. Your OH acts like he does because he’s seen his dad do it. It’s abuse. I can’t imagine he would even want 50% custody he doesn’t contribute as it now. I agree with other PP he’s using his mums illness to control you & emotionally abuse you. Does he even know how stressful it is to take a BF baby away from
their mother?! 3.5 months of EBF too well done Op I could only manage 6 weeks.

Disgruntledwife2023 · 12/01/2023 21:03

I completely agree and I feel terrible about it - I still really struggle to actually say that I'm not happy with things because I always question myself if I am being fair on him with what he's going through with his mum's illness.

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Disgruntledwife2023 · 12/01/2023 21:05

I'm 31. I guess it would be nice for my daughter to have siblings, but I wouldn't have anymore kids in this situation - I just want her to have a loving and stable family dynamic.

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Disgruntledwife2023 · 12/01/2023 21:06

This is what keeps playing on my mind that I don't want to model a marriage for her like this. Thanks RE EBF - cluster feeding has been super tough but we have more or less found our feet.

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lljkk · 12/01/2023 21:14

I did not know 5 year survival rates after stage 4 cancer diagnosis could be so high.

YADNBU to OP.

Husband prioritises sick mother over me and baby
lamaze1 · 12/01/2023 21:15

His mum's illness is a red herring and irrelevant. Your husband is responsible for this and I'm sorry to say I doubt he will change.

lifeinthehills · 12/01/2023 21:15

I'm sorry you're in this situation OP. Your husband is wrong when he says this is normal and you're irrational. This is an awful situation for you and I think it's just not right.

wonderwhattodo · 12/01/2023 21:19

I think you therefore need to move fast while baby is still small and get away

[I speak from sort of experience - I didn’t break away fast enough, he’s found a replacement female to slot into his dysfunctional family unit and is having more kids with her & I suspect is about to start pushing for more time with our kids]

PennyRa · 12/01/2023 21:21

He is a carer for his terminally ill mother who has severe needs and will die soon. He's trying to give his mum time with his child while he still can but understands you don't get along with his father so was trying to arrange that alone. He is also working multiple jobs whilst you are presumably still on maternity leave.

I get that you are struggling with the baby too so I think you would benefit from family therapy to try to see things from eachothers point of view

Mumsanetta · 12/01/2023 21:23

I am sorry you are in such an awful situation OP, especially with such a small baby. Well done for having the strength to speak to a solicitor and for putting yourself and your child first. If I were you, I would seek a divorce now while your baby is still small and you are on maternity leave. You are ebf which would mean baby has to stay with you and there’s nothing he can do about it.

You are clearly a very strong woman and your baby is lucky to have you.

MichelleScarn · 12/01/2023 21:31

PennyRa · 12/01/2023 21:21

He is a carer for his terminally ill mother who has severe needs and will die soon. He's trying to give his mum time with his child while he still can but understands you don't get along with his father so was trying to arrange that alone. He is also working multiple jobs whilst you are presumably still on maternity leave.

I get that you are struggling with the baby too so I think you would benefit from family therapy to try to see things from eachothers point of view

Where did you get all that from?! He works 3 days a week, did NO housework when op was post surgery?!

Arrivederla · 12/01/2023 21:35

PennyRa · 12/01/2023 21:21

He is a carer for his terminally ill mother who has severe needs and will die soon. He's trying to give his mum time with his child while he still can but understands you don't get along with his father so was trying to arrange that alone. He is also working multiple jobs whilst you are presumably still on maternity leave.

I get that you are struggling with the baby too so I think you would benefit from family therapy to try to see things from eachothers point of view

I think you are making up your own storyline here! Where has the op said that he is working multiple jobs?!

She actually said that he works 3 days a week and "makes time for bike rides, gym sessions, and online language lessons" so he doesn't exactly sound rushed off his feet. It also sounds like the op doesn't have anything like the same amount of time to herself.

CandyLeBonBon · 12/01/2023 21:38

PennyRa · 12/01/2023 21:21

He is a carer for his terminally ill mother who has severe needs and will die soon. He's trying to give his mum time with his child while he still can but understands you don't get along with his father so was trying to arrange that alone. He is also working multiple jobs whilst you are presumably still on maternity leave.

I get that you are struggling with the baby too so I think you would benefit from family therapy to try to see things from eachothers point of view

Oh stop it.

AuntieEntity · 12/01/2023 21:41

PennyRa · 12/01/2023 21:21

He is a carer for his terminally ill mother who has severe needs and will die soon. He's trying to give his mum time with his child while he still can but understands you don't get along with his father so was trying to arrange that alone. He is also working multiple jobs whilst you are presumably still on maternity leave.

I get that you are struggling with the baby too so I think you would benefit from family therapy to try to see things from eachothers point of view

That's one reading, I suppose.

pinneddownbytabbies · 12/01/2023 21:48

Disgruntledwife2023 · 12/01/2023 20:40

I go round to his parents place whenever he asks me to (with baby) and I have always said they can come over to ours. It's just the idea of him randomly saying at any time - I'm going to theirs and taking our baby, now - that I can't accept. At least not while she is so small and needs to feed every couple of hours. And he's said it doesn't matter to him if she has just gone down for a nap.

Not only does he not care about you, he doesn't care about the baby either. He is putting his own wants over and above those of a 3.5 month-old breastfed sleeping baby.

He's a monumental arse.

Disgruntledwife2023 · 12/01/2023 21:51

I've tried pointing that out to him but he seems to have this view that she should slot into our lives and we don't have to change things...! And when I say how babies need routine he seems to try and counter that by saying he doesn't want her to grow up a "perfectionist" and that life is chaotic so she should just have to go with it? It doesn't help that he doesn't come to any appointments with doctors or health visitors so he can't hear it from professionals that actually they do need routines and those need to be respected.

OP posts:
MichelleScarn · 12/01/2023 21:55

It doesn't help that he doesn't come to any appointments with doctors or health visitors so he can't hear it from professionals that actually they do need routines and those need to be respected.
others will be more knowledgeable but will this not go in your favour should you split? Shows he has no involvement?

Disgruntledwife2023 · 12/01/2023 21:56

I completely see that he is trying his absolute best by his mother. And I can see that being around the baby brings her joy and I want her to have that - I just also want to be a part of that.
But to be clear - I do get on with his dad. When his dad made those comments to me about my weight I didn't act offended because I didn't want to make a scene, I just brushed them off and told my husband later on what had happened (he was out of the room at the time). I have always tried to be nice to his mum and dad and we have been having them over to ours several times a week and go over to them pretty often too. I just don't want to be cut out of the picture and for him to whisk our baby off at a moment's notice with no regard for her needs like feeding and sleeping.
I have asked him to arrange the couple's therapy for us and asked again this evening so I am hoping it will actually happen this time.

OP posts:
Disgruntledwife2023 · 12/01/2023 21:59

So when I spoke to a solicitor recently they said that it is rare for courts nowadays to actually look into any behaviours of either parent unless there has been actual abuse. At least if we do mediation. It would be if we can't agree on things like how much time he gets with baby or finances that I think they might then be considering the effort that's been made so far, but I think even then they actually start with more concrete things like how often each parent works and therefore what time they strictly have available. They also apparently seem to be prioritising a lot more having babies and children get more time with the dad.

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SleekMamma · 12/01/2023 22:06

Leave! Pack up your stuff and go!
This is horrendous. You are NOT being unreasonable. He is sadly deluded.
It's not going to get better.

boxingdayisbest · 12/01/2023 22:18

It's not about his mum.

It IS about him not helping when he's at home and forcing you into holidays with his family constantly whilst denying visits from yours.

Leave. He won't change.

Ludo19 · 12/01/2023 22:34

GerbilsForever24 · 12/01/2023 17:41

Frankly, the fact that she has cancer is a total red herring. He's just not a very nice man who is totally uninterested in you or your baby except in the context of his parents. His refusal to let your parents stay, his acceptance of mean and inappropriate comments about and to you, his attempt to bully you into stopping breastfeeding, his refusal to help with the DC and the housework.... these are all massive massive red flags.

Also, he only works 3 days a week? I hope he's in a very high paying job and not that you are working full time, doing all the housework and childcare and also bearing the bulk of the financial burden?

This with bells on.

He is basically his father's son. Your DH sounds like a prick.