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Am I right to refuse to rekindle friendship with this women ?

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Sparklycarrot · 06/01/2023 19:27

When I was 22, I got my first "proper," job following graduation from university, ( I am now 30). Whilst I have grown in confidence over the years, I was very, very shy/ quiet/ unconfident when I was younger. I was naturally worried about starting my first "proper" job, but tbf everyone there was perfectly pleasant to me.

An older female colleague, "Tina" ( 37 and single parent to a four year old daughter then, 45 and single parent to a 12 year old daughter now), took an interest in befriending me, invited me on days out with her and her daughter etc. Initially, I was very flattered by this, ( I had been anxious about starting and not being liked).

However, it quickly became apparent our morals were different. She told me she'd started dating someone at work, and asked me to guess who. I excitedly went through the names of various single men in the office, and she said no, it was Tim.* I was shocked, as Tim was our 58 year old supervisor, and well known to be married, ( he also had two adult children with his wife). Tina laughed and said she couldn't care less about his wife, and went on to repeatedly make extremely racist remarks about her, as well as derogatory remarks about her appearance. She said it didn't matter that she was having an affair with Tim, as Tim had openly said he would never leave his wife, so his wife wouldn't get hurt.

Her and Tim would secretly engage in sexual activity in the office, and Tim would take her to hotels etc for the evening. She'd often ask me to babysit her daughter at these times. I now regret doing this. She eventually told Tim she'd told me of the affair, and he was very threatening to me about not exposing them, ( not that I had any intention to). Tim eventually ended the affair when his wife developed cancer, ( fortunately she survived and is now in remission), and Tina made a lot of jokey comments about how it was a shame i wasn't a more serious form of cancer, ( she had womb cancer that was detected at a very early stage), as if the wife died, there would be nothing to stop them being together.

Tim went from threatening me to keep quiet to asking me to encourage Tina t start online dating to distract her/ keep her away from him. Tina spent this whole period telling me how she wished Tim's wife was milking the cancer diagnosis for attention which made me very uncomfortable.

Separately to this, it became apparent Tina was getting into lots of arguments in the office with different staff, and was constantly bitching to me about other female colleagues being fat/ stupid/ ugly. I was becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the whole friendship but felt it difficult to pull back as we worked together.

Both Tina and I left for new jobs, ( in different workplaces), eighteen months or so after I started.

Tina immediately started an affair with a married colleague, Adam* at her new workplace, ( within six weeks of starting). The difference was , this guy had two young children, age 6 and 3. Tina would repeatedly search his wife on social media, send me screenshotted photos and bitch about how ugly/ fat/ spotty etc his wife looked. I didn't reply/ changed the subject and eventually told her I didn't like it, but she continued.

Adam appeared to treat Tina terribly. He'd regularly text her, "I'm bored of you now, I will block you and unblock you in a couple of weeks when I'm wanting to have sex with you again." Tina would phone me at least once a month asking how she could get him to unblock her, and wouldn't listen to any reason when I said he was treating both her and his wife horribly, ( in any case he always unblocked her after a couple of weeks and resume having sex with her anyway).

Stuff came to a head when Adam and his wife hired a young, live-in female nanny for their children. The nanny was a good 20 years younger than Adam, and engaged to her own fiance. But Tina was obsessed that the nanny would steal Adam from her, and began bombarding me with sscreenshotted pictures of the nanny's social media to ask me to confirm the nanny was less attractive/ fatter than her etc. She would refuse to listen when I pointed out Adam's behaviour was wrong, and what she was saying about the nanny wasn't nice.

I then got a boyfriend, ( first serious relationship in quite a while). She instantly became very off with me, started making bitchy and xenophobic comments about me/ my boyfriend, and started sending nasty text messages saying that having thought about it, all her other friends were more fun than me. When I eventually said she wasn't being very nice, she sent some extremely abusive messages and blocked me on everything. Three years have passed, and I didn't hear from her. It was a relief, ( in the intervening period, I had a daughter with my boyfriend).

I've now received multiple messages from her, ( she has set up a new Facebook account), and still has my phone number, to say she was sorry she was horrible to me but she was jealous of seeing me get a man's attention so easily, she thinks my daughter is gorgeous and would like us to "pick up where we left off." She says she is still seeing Adam, but he has still not left his wife. She says Adam is still horrible to her.

She is clearly keen to rekindle things, as when I didn't reply to her messages, she contacted my boyfriend, sister and cousin via Facebook and told them to get me to get in touch with her asap. I don't want to rekindle things, but she is obviously very intense and I'm not sure she will take a no well. Tbh, given the extent of her behaviour and her obvious issues, I don't really want her around my daughter.

How would you handle the situation ? How can I say No without it causing a load of trouble ?

This is as succinct as possible, but there were many other examples of extremely nasty behaviour to both wives, Adam's nanny and other female colleagues.

OP posts:
Pinkbonbon · 08/01/2023 23:09

*something....not zonethong lol

Sparklycarrot · 08/01/2023 23:11

Yes I think what's hurt me is, ( when we were "friends") I mentioned some specific insecurities about my looks and she's used these to target me. It feels very spiteful.

OP posts:
Pinkbonbon · 08/01/2023 23:15

Yes she's a textbook malignant narcissist.

It feels spiteful because it is. She uses her words to cause the most pain as all bullies do.

Hopefully you'll avoid a smear campaign from her. But be on guard just incase.

Whytheego · 08/01/2023 23:20

No way ! She is not a nice person in any way shape or form , I would just get all those people she contacted to block her .

if a grown woman can’t get the message from that , she seriously has something a miss with her .

stay away from her …..

stormywaves · 08/01/2023 23:25

Just use this response to reassure yourself you have made the right decision. Any contact with this nutcase will just drag on and cause even more anguish.

She is pissed you have blocked her and if she is nuts enough to get a different number to try can contact you on, there will be absolutely no reasoning with her if you do.

Just keep NC and hopefully she will move on.

Whytheego · 08/01/2023 23:42

Sparklycarrot · 08/01/2023 23:00

Oh dear, just got a text from a different number, ( presumably she has more than one phone, but different to her usual number), saying

  1. I'm weak , nasty and pathetic for ignoring her messages,
  2. She's sure my boyfriend will leave me soon as I'm ugly, fat and look bloated,
  3. People in our previous job used to say I was ugly and boring, she only started inviting me out as she felt sorry for me,
  4. She'd be gutted if her daughter, ( age. 12 ) grew up to look like me,
  5. I've shown how nasty I am by ignoring her when she's in great distress, but I was always weak and pathetic. Blocked this number, but feel a little shaken. I want to reply and let rip, but I know that will just inflame the situation.

Omg she is insane !!!!!! Who behaves like this let alone a middle aged woman , wow to that last message she sent you!

I would go wild at that message (but literally don’t take my advise on that , I have a bad temper and it would be better to just ignore )

genuinely shocked people like that exist.

Duchess379 · 08/01/2023 23:58

She has mental issues, serious mental issues. Is it possible to change your number? I know it's a pain but if she's texting you from PAYG mobiles, they'll be no end to the messages.
This is almost in 'Single White Female' territory 😳

OffToThatPlace · 09/01/2023 00:02

Tell her that unless she stops contacting you, you will report her to the police for harassment.

She is clearly unhinged.

Starlightstarbright1 · 09/01/2023 00:14

Yes block /save copies of texts.

Lock down your fb...

You can stop people ( not friends ) seeing friends, friend requesting. Do that currently if you haven't already.

Hawkins001 · 09/01/2023 00:20

All the best op

Opentooffers · 09/01/2023 00:34

Well you have been very meek and mild in dealing with her over the years. She's a nasty person who has issues but isn't going to command any sympathy, yet you've tolerated her nasty mouth for 8 years - she's never going to learn if people tolerate her behaviour.
Either block the new number and any other numbers she comes up with without saying more, or say you will inform the police if she continues to harass you, then block.
It's quite remarkable that it took advice from a forum to get you to block rather than her being racist about your BF - that would make most have nothing to do with her.
If she persists, record a complaint to the police via their website.

kirwanco · 09/01/2023 00:40

You owe her nothing, not your time, it your energy, not an explanation.

Tell her to fcuk off, not to contact your family and friends and that you have no interest in speaking to her ever again.

ellephant · 09/01/2023 01:01

A plain, 'do not contact me again' would suffice. Do not engage further and block.
If she continues in her current course of conduct, contact the police to raise a complaint of harassment against her.

coffeeisthebest · 09/01/2023 09:43

Straight from the word go you let this woman dictate the relationship, for your own reasons. She sounds absolutely awful and I don't know why you would even consider giving her space in your life again. Do you understand that if you give space to someone who bitches on that level you are also complicit in it? Why on earth didn't you walk away sooner. I would avoid her like the plague and spend some time reflecting on what you were getting out of this toxic mess.

fatherfintanstack · 09/01/2023 18:36

She reminds me of someone very damaged and spiteful I never wish to hear from again. My initial.advice would have been to block and ignore as you did.

With this latest update though, I would suggest a very calm, formal 'please do not contact me again. I do not wish to hear any more from you. Any further contact to me or my family will be reported to the police'. And stick by that. Block the number, of course.

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