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Separated from husband, he no longer wants kids with me. Having trouble moving on.

73 replies

anoremac · 21/12/2022 04:51

Husband (38M) and I (38F) have been together for 6 1/2 years, married for 2 years now. We have been on the same page about having kids together since Day 1. Although throughout the relationship, he had doubts about whether we should stay in the relationship leading up to marriage. I didn't hear any more issues/doubts since we got married so I thought his commitment-phobia was gone. We were excitedly telling family/friends that we'd start trying to have kids about 8 months ago. Then one day he does a 180 and started getting defensive when I tried to talk to him about actually working on a baby. Ended up getting in a huge argument. He had started to become distant, I thought because of some health issues. Turns out he was having doubts about us again. A few weeks later, he told me that subconsciously he didn't think he could have kids with me. That something was inherently missing between us, an emotional intimacy that he wasn't sure if either of us could fix. I asked him, if kids were off the table, would he reconsider? He said there would still be something missing. I asked him if we could do couples therapy together? He didn't want to do that and thought we could do our own individual therapy. I asked him if we can actively work on it? He said working on it means we have to kill the current relationship, get over each other completely, and then see if we still want to be together. Although even if we "worked on it" there's no guarantee he wouldn't have these doubts a year from now. He says he wishes we were in our 20s where we'd have plenty of time to figure it out, but he didn't want to string me along any longer now that I'm in my late 30's.

I had enough of this instability, so I moved out 3 weeks later. That was 6 months ago. We filed for divorce 3 months ago because he said that if I meet someone, he wouldn't want me to be hung up on the fact that we're still married.

The problem is, we have still been hanging out quite often. I tried to go limited contact and that seemed to help, but we still have things to wrap up (i.e. a car, a house, financial things, etc.).

One of his biggest issues he had with me during the relationship was that I didn't communicate with him enough to his expectation. I thought I was very communicative but thought I'd try harder. So I have been open and honest with him about how I feel, about the dates I've gone on, and he's been honest about the dates he's gone on. Despite my communication, he maintains his stance that he's in limbo and isn't sure what he wants. All the while telling me, I'm the only woman he's ever wanted to have kids with, he loves me so much, etc. He still wants to have kids. He says things like, if I can work on my communication then I will have him 100% -- the goal posts move a lot and this feels very conditional.

Well over the last 6 months, I started chatting more with a former male colleague of mine who I've known for 12 years. He actually used to be my boss, I worked with him twice for 4 years total. He lives in a completely different state (where I used to live). I discovered that he likes me back and we have great chemistry. Although when I knew him, he was in a similar marriage situation before for 13 years so there was never any inkling of mutual interest. He just recently got out of a 2-year relationship, so he's taking some time to heal himself. He's understanding of my situation and is in no rush. He also doesn't want us to be a rebound for each other. I agree. He has a 9-year old son and has always wanted more kids. So we are on the same page in all of those aspects and would be open to having them with each other.

My DXH had suspected I had feelings for this person before I even knew I did and had constantly questioned me about him. After DXH and I separated, he kept asking me if I had spoken to this colleague yet and I said not really. He kept asking, why not? He's handsome, he's successful, etc. I started getting sick of him encouraging me and asking so much, I finally threw in the towel and started talking to this guy more. I was honest and told DXH about the fact that I was talking to him more. He continued to encourage me, saying he was proud of me for talking to this person and exploring this option. This was confusing to hear my DXH encouraging me to date him. One night he even asked me if I was in love with him, and I said "I don't know, I don't really trust any of my feelings right now fully." He took that as a YES, and said "It sounds like you're on your way."

The very next day, my DXH calls me up, he is in tears. He says it finally hit him that he might lose me, that I would be falling in love with this person so quickly. He is so used to speaking with me often and having access to me. I told him it isn't fair that he encourages me to date and then comes back the moment I start having feelings for someone else, and he said "I know I know, I have no right." I told him I cannot live in limbo, that I have little time left and this is the consequence of the rest of my life we're talking about. The lives of my children and their children. Then he came over and brought me flowers and groceries. He was hugging/kissing on me. We ended up hanging out for several days in a row. Although I was having my own doubts by the end of it. It's been 2 days and we haven't really spoken much.

I am distraught now and unsure what to do. I feel like my DXH's actions and words are signs he wants to get back together, but at the same time, not. Now I have growing feelings for the other guy. I am also afraid that if I got back with DXH I may not be able to trust his commitment. Also, I realize that him expressing his love for me doesn't mean he has any interest in getting together, more so he is just coming to terms with the fact that I'm moving on. I don't really know what to believe that comes out of his mouth anymore, it just confuses me further.

My colleague asked me if DXH had tried to come back to me yet, because that's what his DXW did when she found out he was moving on. So I called my colleague and told him that's what just happened, that it was confusing/overwhelming me, that I needed to get my head on straight and close this current chapter before opening a new one. I told him I didn't want to hurt him, overlap nor rebound. He was very understanding and said likewise, he's just started going to therapy for his 2-year relationship that ended 3 months ago and doesn't want to rebound. So we've just been texting every couple days.

I really don't feel like I have much time left to be dilly dallying with DXH and his indecisiveness. I also don't want to ruin my chances of this new guy. Although I've known him for so long and we have been very good friends and colleagues, we have traveled the world together for work trips and have shared a lot of very interesting memories through our work. I think we both know it could grow into a very deep love with mutual respect and admiration. I don't think he would close the door on me for needing more time.

I am curious if any other ladies (or men) have been in a similar situation where they had to make the difficult decision to leave a long-term relationship because their partner changed their mind. Or if the partner made it difficult for you to move on. Or if you had fear taking that step forward with someone new.

I know people are going to say things like 'no contact' and 'wait until you're officially divorced.' No contact is impossible at the moment, but waiting until divorce seems doable.

OP posts:
SleepingStandingUp · 21/12/2022 09:43

He married you, knowing he wasn't sure, vthat you wanted kids and that you were in your 30s. Then he's playing the big hero, letting you go before it's too late and encouraging you to move on. Then he's throwing a ton of emotional crap at you so that you don't actually move on. But he isn't about to move in and impregnate you. He just doesn't like that you're moving on quicker than him.

If you can't block, you at least need to keep it business only. Stop hanging out. Stop having sleep overs. Just step back before you're 45, childless and he meets someone ten years younger and has a family with her and abandons you again.

cestlavielife · 21/12/2022 09:47

Move on from your ex
Anyone who says if only you changed all would be wonderful
Needs to be binned

DelphiniumBlue · 21/12/2022 09:48

Ex is a prat. He's been playing you and now he's only interested because you've met someone else. Show some self respect and stop hanging out with him. He future faked for years till you are almost at the end of your fertility window, how can you even be thinking of giving him another chance? He's a self obsessed idiot, and doesn't care about you and your wish to have children. You'd never be able to trust him.

Christmasbaubleswithtinselon · 21/12/2022 09:51

Time for you to take back some control of yourself- you seem to be waiting for others to make decisions for you.

Relationships shouldn’t be this hard. It’s not a movie where he suddenly decides he loves you and you live happily ever after. Your ex sounds like hard work and you would be luckily to escape it.

Make a plan to stop contact. Start with a week and build up. In the mean time, work out what you want now. Don’t muddy your thoughts with children- the relationship you were in was not the right environment for them. Think about what you want right now.

emptythelitterbox · 21/12/2022 09:55

Agree with the rest your STBX is a twat mind fuck.

Go no contact with him. Block him everywhere.
Anything related to the divorce can go through your attorney.

If you search on here, you'll see countless stories of selfish arses who played games with their partner and ran out the clock for her being ability to have children. Then off they fuck without a care usually having children with someone else.

Remember, he's not your friend. Don't let him use you as an emotional tampon for his indecision and emotional dumping.
He lost that right to your kind listening ear when he decided to divorce.

Crazypaving22 · 21/12/2022 10:00

Reading your post while singing need a little time by the beautiful south in my head.

Get rid of your ex, he's a future faking, man child who clearly has a lovely dose of 'I don't want her but don't want anyone else to have her'

This is NOT a man to have children with. He'll be a cheat further down the line (if he isn't already) because he makes some 'emotional connection' with someone that just HAS to be explored.

Seriously proceed with the divorce and get rid of this loser. Grey rock him.

I'm so sorry he's such a manipulative arse!

Brightstarowl · 21/12/2022 10:00

Keep your ex as an EX.

He is a weirdo who enjoys playing mind games with you.

He doesn't want you but he doesn't want anyone else to have you either.

Such a selfish turd.

Hope the relationship with the new man goes well.

BackOnTheBandWagon · 21/12/2022 10:13

Nothing will ever be good enough for your ex. Is he ever specific about your "communication issues"? Honestly, it sounds like one of my exes where I was always the problem, if only I would do X Y Z then we'd be fine. Ironic then that I'm the one that's married and he's still moving from relationship to relationship as "something was missing". He also was one of those who was "so open with everything", "I'm not being hurtful, I'm just being honest", when really he was an utter cunt.

As little contact as possible with your ex, and take things forward with the new guy when you're both ready. All the best to you :)

user1494050295 · 21/12/2022 10:45

Someone may have said this already but do look into getting your eggs frozen as back up

Passanotherjaffacake · 21/12/2022 10:59

Yeah, he still has his hand firmly on your chain to give it a good yank as he pleases. He seems like the bad guy in some godawful rom com to me.

move on with the new guy. Avoid the ex and cut all ties. failure to do this has a price - your chance at having children - so don’t make excuses.

that price is too high for any man, imo, nevermind some mind fuck loser like your ex.

meant kindly, you aren’t going to wake up tomorrow in a happy, loving, stable relationship with your ex and both be looking forward to having children together.

some much good luck op, extracting yourself from gaslighting is so hard. Just remember the price! xx

billyduck · 21/12/2022 11:08

Thank goodness you did not have children with your ex.
He sounds highly manipulative and enjoys mind games.
Leave him behind and get on with your life 100%

SeveruslyFrazzled · 21/12/2022 12:25

Please don’t go back with your ex. He will steal your chance of having a child away from you. He’s clearly playing a game here. I agree with everyone else. You should block him and move on.

TearsNReindeers · 21/12/2022 12:29

dolor · 21/12/2022 05:30

Don't wait around for that selfish tosser.

Absolute MINIMAL contact, make that clear to him now, and go and have the time of your life with your new bloke.

This.

Your ex sounds like a selfish time waster.

Treacletoots · 21/12/2022 12:33

I mean, you shouldn't have ever married a guy who clearly said he wasn't sure about committing to you, and moved on all those years ago. But we are where we are.

Don't let him do it all again. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on ME

SlouchingTowardsBethlehemAgain · 21/12/2022 12:37

Your ex is such a selfish little future faking shit.

VisaGeezer · 21/12/2022 12:53

Your ex h is a total and utter head fuck.

He's a flaky bastard.

If my dd was involved with him, I swear if have had him offed and buried him in the woods by now.

VisaGeezer · 21/12/2022 12:57

Yeah, he still has his hand firmly on your chain to give it a good yank as he pleases

Perfectly put.

Fuck your ex.

Stop the codependent, still in each others lives crap with him.
(Most men would be put off by that, rightfully - they wouldn't get into a serious relationship with someone still so I'm loved with their ex).

See how it goes with "new" guy and any other opportunities in case it doesn't go anywhere with him. You're not exclusive til you're both all in and exclusive.

VisaGeezer · 21/12/2022 12:58

*still so involved with

VisaGeezer · 21/12/2022 13:03

Your ex has significant issues with being in a committed, naturally progressing relationship either with you, or at all.

That is not going to change.

Someone who only wants you when they think theyve lost you (or are losing you) and the rest of the time is "I want you, I don't want you, I don't know if I want you, I want you, I'm not sure if I want you, I don't want you, I might want you ......" is not relationship material.

He's wasted enough of your (quite limited as a female) time to have kids and he's wasted enough of your time and emotion in general.

You should never have married him. I suppose you thought him being willing to get married showed he was ready to commit ...... Apparently wrong. What a fkg weirdo he is.

tortiecat · 21/12/2022 13:05

"He said working on it means we have to kill the current relationship, get over each other completely, and then see if we still want to be together."
What on earth. Your H is talking out of his arse. You've tried really hard to work on your marriage but it's one sided, because however hard you try he'll just keep talking bollocks like this and moving goalposts. He'll reel you in and then pull away, again and again. That's no way to live. It does hurt I know but you have to go absolutely minimal contact to sort the practicalities and then end contact after the divorce. Whether or not things work out with your new chap (and I hope they do if that is what you want) your H is not the one for you.

candlesinthesnow · 21/12/2022 13:07

It’s weird how men do this. I’ve had two exes who broke up with me and then once I moved on to someone else, they started trying to win me back and telling me I was their “one that got away”. They don’t want you but they don’t want anyone else to have you either, it’s so messed up.

OP, go as low contact as possible and focus on moving forward without him. The new guy sounds promising!

VisaGeezer · 21/12/2022 13:08

We have been on the same page about having kids together since Day 1. Although throughout the relationship, he had doubts about whether we should stay in the relationship leading up to marriage

What??

So what was he proposing; that you have kids together but not stay together?

VisaGeezer · 21/12/2022 13:09

I honestly don't know why he got married.

What a fucking waste of money, as well as what he's inflicted on you.

He sounds mental.

CoraggioCara · 21/12/2022 13:21

OP life is very short.
Your ex has had years of your life in which to be an excellent partner but didn't bother.

kingtamponthefurred · 21/12/2022 13:28

I'd stop hanging out with your husband. If you want to conceive without assistance and within a loving relationship, you really don't have any more time to waste.