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MH GC affair makes my blood boil

65 replies

Jenny3412 · 28/11/2022 18:56

Honestly, ‘I’m a Celebrity’ sleaze MH Claiming that he fell in love with GC and that made him leave his family makes my blood boil. How can you leave a family you chose to create? Apparently he woke up his then 8 year old son at 10pm at night to let him know that he was leaving. What sort of psychopath would do that? Absolute lack of empathy. It’s like this is happening to me and it’s ever so important because I have needs, what about the needs of his children. What an idiot.

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pocketvenuss · 28/11/2022 19:44

I trust you hate ALL people who have had affairs. Not just MH and GC. King Charles & Camilla. Brad Pitt. Angela Rayner. Most footballers....

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/11/2022 19:49

pocketvenuss · 28/11/2022 19:44

I trust you hate ALL people who have had affairs. Not just MH and GC. King Charles & Camilla. Brad Pitt. Angela Rayner. Most footballers....

No, I just despise Hancock and the way he seems determined to rub his family's nose in his affair. I mean, I heartily despised and disliked Hancock before, just more now.

And why does disliking him mean that I have to dislike everyone who has or has had an affair?

ancientgran · 28/11/2022 19:50

Dweetfidilove · 28/11/2022 19:42

I don't condone affairs and know they have awful consequences, but I do wonder every time I see - end it before you start another relationship- if people actually believe that is better.

Darling, I know have been married for 20 years and have these beautiful kids, shared lives, responsibilities etc, but I've fallen in love with someone else, so need to end this marriage so I can start my new relationship.

I just don't see how that makes a break up any easier. You're still absconding, still leaving a wife and children behind, hearts /vows will still be broken etc.

Just thinking 🤔

Yes I agree, I don't think being told he's leaving just because he doesn't want to be with you is particularly great either, I mean if he is going to something that's one thing but preferring to be on his (or her own) maybe sitting in a bedsit (because not everyone has as much money as MH) is pretty insulting isn't it, sort of anything is better than you.

Whoever leaked the picture also has some responsibility. If the photo hadn't come out maybe it would have burnt out and he'd still be with his wife but his hand was forced.

People should keep out of other people's private lives. MH's wife wasn't a politician/actor/media figure so ruining her life wasn't on, she might have known all about the affair and hoping it wasn't going to last but once the video was out there it was over.

ChocChipOwl · 28/11/2022 19:50

Christ. Some people need to get a life don't they? Who cares what other people do in their marriages?

CakeIsNotAvailable · 28/11/2022 19:53

I don't agree that Hancock shouldn't talk about his partner because it's "flaunting" the affair. They've been living together as a couple for over a year now. They're in an established relationship. What is he meant to do - never acknowledge in public that he has a private life?

lollyloo88 · 28/11/2022 19:55

If it makes your blood boil you need to go and see a therapist and start thinking about something else! Move on!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/11/2022 19:56

ChocChipOwl · 28/11/2022 19:50

Christ. Some people need to get a life don't they? Who cares what other people do in their marriages?

Quite a lot of MN if the relationship board is anything to go by.

ReneBumsWombats · 28/11/2022 20:03

If you're going to be ending your marriage and leaving anyway, why does it matter if you slept with the new person a few times first?

DrMarciaFieldstone · 28/11/2022 20:04

They’ve been together officially for at least 18 months now, and they look happy/well suited. Not the right way to go about it, but they’re not the first, and won’t be the last.

Nobody really knows what his marriage was like either.

Really isn’t worth boiling your own blood over strangers.

CornishGem1975 · 28/11/2022 20:07

Elecktra22 · 28/11/2022 19:05

I actually don’t think it’s that easy for some people. It’s also very difficult to say if you’ve not been in that position yourself. To think it’s that easy shows a lack of compassion and insight. Also an affair is usually a symptom of marital problems not the cause

Completely agree.

Saying 'what about the needs of his children' - are you saying OP that people can never leave a relationship because they have children? Because that's total bullshit.

CornishGem1975 · 28/11/2022 20:09

No, I just despise Hancock and the way he seems determined to rub his family's nose in his affair. I mean, I heartily despised and disliked Hancock before, just more now.

How is he rubbing their nose in it exactly @MrsDanversGlidesAgain Are they meant to never be seen in public?

KIW · 28/11/2022 20:09

@Dweetfidilove

Indeed.

DrMarciaFieldstone · 28/11/2022 20:10

How can you leave a family you chose to create?

A multitude of reasons. Marriage is not life sentence. Both people need to want to be in it, for it to work.

Zilla1 · 28/11/2022 20:10

You are all so unromantic. And spoiling the hard work of political advisors who were given this to polish. The halo of true love was intended to wash away any stain from the affair. Then the pap photos hand in hand. The wedding in OK, Hello, Westgate Herald ... with blended family bridesmaids and page boys. The public love from IAC will be like the HIGNFY effect for Boris. And you're all spoiling everyone's hard work. It's true love. They couldn't help themselves. Tory blue rinsers could accept that in the leadership ballot around 2025? Do you all not have hearts? I bet you laughed during Bambi. And cheered during the fireplace scene in Frozen.

Crazypaving22 · 28/11/2022 20:12

ReneBumsWombats · 28/11/2022 20:03

If you're going to be ending your marriage and leaving anyway, why does it matter if you slept with the new person a few times first?

If we assume many are still sleeping with their spouses, then shall we start with risk of STDs, what about the spouses right to consent being robbed (in the days of consent being all) or the trauma infidelity causes with the gaslighting, minimising, blame shifting etc

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/11/2022 20:13

CornishGem1975 · 28/11/2022 20:09

No, I just despise Hancock and the way he seems determined to rub his family's nose in his affair. I mean, I heartily despised and disliked Hancock before, just more now.

How is he rubbing their nose in it exactly @MrsDanversGlidesAgain Are they meant to never be seen in public?

Oh let's see - very public reunion after coming out of the jungle? MH's 'I just fell in love, I'm not a bad person really' on prime time TV? all the kids at his childrens' school probably watching the reunion and saying 'I saw your dad on TV with his girlfriend to his children the next day?

Frankly if I never saw his face again after the pandemic it would be too soon. But full marks for the faux ingenuousness.

CornishGem1975 · 28/11/2022 20:15

ALL the people on the show had a public reunion as far as I can see. Unless they had nobody to meet them. That's just part of it, it's hardly rubbing anyone's nose in it to have a reunion with your partner, just the same as everyone else.

I think you're overthinking what kids at school would be saying. More likely 'I saw your dad on TV' rather than commenting on his girlfriend at all.

CakeIsNotAvailable · 28/11/2022 20:16

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/11/2022 20:13

Oh let's see - very public reunion after coming out of the jungle? MH's 'I just fell in love, I'm not a bad person really' on prime time TV? all the kids at his childrens' school probably watching the reunion and saying 'I saw your dad on TV with his girlfriend to his children the next day?

Frankly if I never saw his face again after the pandemic it would be too soon. But full marks for the faux ingenuousness.

If Matt Hancock's kids are going to be bullied because of their dad being on I'm a Celebrity, I can't imagine that the specifics of who he embraced when he left the jungle will mean they get bullied any more 🤷‍♀️

5128gap · 28/11/2022 20:18

Dweetfidilove · 28/11/2022 19:42

I don't condone affairs and know they have awful consequences, but I do wonder every time I see - end it before you start another relationship- if people actually believe that is better.

Darling, I know have been married for 20 years and have these beautiful kids, shared lives, responsibilities etc, but I've fallen in love with someone else, so need to end this marriage so I can start my new relationship.

I just don't see how that makes a break up any easier. You're still absconding, still leaving a wife and children behind, hearts /vows will still be broken etc.

Just thinking 🤔

I think this is is absolutely right now you've mentioned it. While being deceived adds to the hurt, the crux is surely that your partner prefers someone else. That they prefer them so much or care for you so little they're prepared to put you aside altogether, before even trying the new relationship on for size, is arguably even more hurtful than thinking that at least they're a little conflicted.

hay5689 · 28/11/2022 20:26

As someone who's father had an affair and got caught it winds me up when people say "left the children". My father left my mother not me and my sister, we've always maintained a close relationship with him and I don't understand why people think the person having an affair walks away from their children. Things were better at home for us after they split because usually things are not great before the affair starts.

On another note, why get so worked up about people you don't even know?

BonnesVacances · 28/11/2022 20:28

Half the OP was based on "apparently". Hmm

Do we actually know what happened? Were MH and his wife still together when he was snogging Gina at work?

I'm not up to date on what went on but do we actually know anything or is it just "apparently"?

I'm not condoning it, but if even John Major was having it off with Edwina, adultery is obviously as rife in politics as it is with celebrities and footballers. It's not what I'd want MH to be strung up for when there's other more deserving things.

Jenny3412 · 28/11/2022 21:58

BirmaBrite · 28/11/2022 19:32

I imagine Mrs Hancock the 1st is probably doing just fine without the sleazy, lying knob.

Spot on, good riddance for her. Just feel so sad for the kids, his ego and that Cheshire smile are just gross 🤮 and no thought for them.

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Jenny3412 · 28/11/2022 22:00

CakeIsNotAvailable · 28/11/2022 19:53

I don't agree that Hancock shouldn't talk about his partner because it's "flaunting" the affair. They've been living together as a couple for over a year now. They're in an established relationship. What is he meant to do - never acknowledge in public that he has a private life?

The less he acknowledges himself and his Willy in public life the better.

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Jenny3412 · 28/11/2022 22:06

CornishGem1975 · 28/11/2022 20:07

Completely agree.

Saying 'what about the needs of his children' - are you saying OP that people can never leave a relationship because they have children? Because that's total bullshit.

Guys nope, no. When you grow up you are an adult and a healthy adult makes decisions they stand by, especially when it comes to bringing kids into this world. My belief is that if your relationship is not abusive and you chose your partner with a conscious engaged brain, if marriage problems come along the best therapy is taking a break and counselling. That way you can stand proud and tell your children, who by the way internalise their parents separating as their own fault, you can tell them you tried everything, and it’s not a decision you came to lightly. He was not fixing problems in his marriage in the slightest, he was concocting what made him feel good about himself only. The news break out and they’re off on this so called love. That’s the definition of psychopath.

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Isthisexpected · 28/11/2022 22:14

What makes me madder is when people say affairs happen all the time and are the symptom of a poor marriage. That's simply not true. If you've ever read research on the subject, affairs are the result of someone with an avoidant personality, poor impulse control and higher than average levels of compartmentalisation having opportunity to cheat. There is a lot of literature on why people who felt they were in good marriages were unfaithful too. It's usually more about the personality defects and personal issues of the cheater.