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Husband Cheating Online (constantly)

54 replies

bookishmumof5 · 23/11/2022 16:39

Hello, first post but I need somewhere anonymous to ask for opinions, and I always end up searching Mumsnet threads for advice via Google lol.

I've been with my husband 14 years, we have 5 kids and business together. Aside from running 80% of our business, I'm a stay at home mum and homeschool our kids.

He has a history of cheating on me using the internet. In the past 7 years he has signed up for dating sites saying he's single, messaged multiple women having emotional and sexual conversations and exchanging photos, and developed longterm online relationships that definitely cross the lines of friendship. His latest thing has been paying for online video chats with women. I'm talking £50 a month on sex workers when we are having to decide between paying our bills and buying food.

We have had so, so many conversations about this. I've told him it is inappropriate, that it's destroying my self esteem etc. I'm so hurt. He has no interest in a sex life with me, which has always been an issue between us. I gave up trying a long time ago because constant rejection was too hurtful. He insists that he doesn't have much interest in sex, but seeks out porn and exchanging messages with random women. He's got angry with me before for being upset about it.

Once upon a time I suggested an open relationship, in the hope that it might stop the feelings of hurt and rejection. He stopped speaking to me for three days.

I tried talking to him last night about this again, because I'd noticed some app icons on his phone that raised red flags to me. He has previously promised not to use chat apps anymore, and to stop with the porn (I don't have too much of an issue with porn in general, but not at the expense of intimacy between us, so I've asked him not to use it.) He tried to brush me off last night, even when I told him I'm trying really hard to trust him and that maybe if he did things like show me there was nothing to worry about or tell me what his phone password is, it would be easier. He spent an hour saying he's "doing his best" to get me to trust him, then got cross, told me this was ridiculous and disappeared into the bathroom for 15 minutes after I asked outright to see his phone. He gave me the phone after he came out of the bathroom 🙄 there were screenshots of women in provocative poses (looked like they were in their early 20s), a record him spending £57 this month on tipping cam girls, and text messages between him another young woman. I don't know if he deleted stuff before giving me his phone, but I'm assuming he did. He had excuses for everything on there I found.

He's recently struck up this^ friendship with a woman he met online who looks to be maybe HALF his age (he's in his 40s). They seem to talk about everything under the sun, including mental health etc. He's given her his phone number and she's sent him selfies of her asking for opinions on her outfit etc. Apparently it's fine because he told her he has a wife. It gives me the ick, big time. I want him to have friends but it feels gross to me, especially given his history with the Internet and apps etc. He's angry that I don't like him talking to her. I just found about this last night and I'm still processing.

He got cross with me about not wanting him to use chat apps because he says he's just seeking connection. In the past, he has used them exclusively to talk to younger women. He never seeks connection with men.

I'm so lost with this right now. I feel revolting and unattractive. I've had five children and I'm not in my 20s anymore. I don't know how I can trust him, and I don't know what to do. Even reading this back I'm mentally kicking myself because it sounds so pathetic. But after so long I feel utterly worthless and question whether my hurt feelings and self esteem and worth up-ending our kids, potentially destroying the business I've worked so hard to build, and then ending up alone.

Am I missing something? Should I be doing something to make this situation better? I try to trust him, but then he gives me reason not to. It's just a mess.

OP posts:
CloseYourEyesAndSee · 23/11/2022 16:41

your only option is to divorce him surely?

Purplecatshopaholic · 23/11/2022 16:43

Should you be doing something…? Err, yes, seeing a lawyer. You don’t trust him, because you can’t. He’s a serial liar. Please op, for the sake of your poor kids as well as yourself, ditch this unpleasant individual now - your self esteem, and happiness will thank you.

Smallonesaremorejuicy · 23/11/2022 16:43

You do majority of work at home with five children so you will certainly be able to cope on your own without this week cheating man .

whydontpoo · 23/11/2022 16:45

This is so awful I can't believe it is real.

If it is. Good lord. Get this scumbag out and away from you now. I'm so sorry you think even 1% of any of this behaviour is worth staying for.

serenaisaknobhead · 23/11/2022 16:47

Oh fgs. You can do better than this alone. Why are you continuing to put up with it? He clearly has no respect for you and has shown you time and time again. Respect yourself

Ringmaster27 · 23/11/2022 16:48

You’re already running majority of the business, homeschooling and taking care of the kids…what does this man actually bring to your life?
He’s done it before, been forgiven and clearly seems to think he can continue to do it without consequence, and without giving a single fuck about the financial impact his vile behaviour has on his family.
You and your children deserve so much better. Get rid yesterday.

dolor · 23/11/2022 16:56

Well he's a piece of shit, and going after women half his age? Revolting little toad.

Time to speak to a lawyer.

He can fap himself into oblivion on his own, and you can build your life back up, because he's clearly bringing you down.

Qwayserdeyas · 23/11/2022 16:56

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Clarklette85 · 23/11/2022 17:01

KICK THAT MAN TO THE CURB!!!
YOU DESERVE BETTER.

I know thats easier said than done, but seriously its enough now isnt it. He does not deserve one more minute of your time or effort. If this was your daughter in this situation what would you say to her??? Get rid of that creepy creepy man straight away.

Fairislefandango · 23/11/2022 17:01

He has been cheating on you for 7 YEARS and he gets angry when you get upset about it?! Wtaf?! Why on earth are you still with this utter arsehole of a man? Why did you put up with this for 1 year, never mind 7?!

WildfirePonie · 23/11/2022 17:14

LTB

slowquickstep · 23/11/2022 17:33

Good Lord, Put an end to this now.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 23/11/2022 17:41

You ask "am I missing something?" Yes you are. You're saying you feel worthless. He actually IS worthless.

Bedazzled22 · 23/11/2022 17:42

I’m separating from DP having caught him randomly and mostly by chance over last few years on hook up & dating sites. He’d never let me near his phone in a million years. Ive tried to forgive but it happens again and again and last time was the final straw. He’s doesnt think a big deal, I dont think. He was just looking out of loneliness….

I’m devastated really esp as we have a teenager but I cant tolerate any more.

The trouble is, they don’t think it’s a big deal because it’s not physical and so it just happens again and again.

Pineappleskies · 23/11/2022 17:43

Get some self respect and leave him.

Babochan88 · 23/11/2022 17:46

Sounds like he’ll keep doing this. Regardless of how inappropriate and hurtful it is to you.

Opaljewel · 23/11/2022 17:54

I would rather be alone and poor than one second of that in my life longer.

Your esteem is low because of this prick.

You know what to do.

notapizzaeater · 23/11/2022 17:56

You are worth so so much more

AnyFucker · 23/11/2022 17:57

I'm trying really hard to trust him

Can you tell us what your definition of madness is ? Mine is keep doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome,

ChicaneOvenchips · 23/11/2022 18:29

You have been conditioned by him over the years to accept this shite.

I promise you there is a full and happy life waiting for you, once you ditch this nasty excuse of a man.

Crazypaving22 · 23/11/2022 18:29

Wow, just wow.

OP genuine question, what are your relationship boundaries, your lines that should not be crossed, your lines in the sand?

Because from this post it seems you don't have any, your esteem has been worn down so much by this (quite frankly) dirty creepy man, that you have no boundaries.

Even his most recent betrayal is excused away as 'he has his excuses' and 'he can have friends'.

These women are not his friends they're women he wants to fuck.

If he hasn't already. You know the tip of the iceberg, I'm sure of that.

Everyday he puts your emotional, mental, physical health at risk, it's cruel, this is abuse.

This relationship is settling a dreadful blueprint for your children. They watch and learn from their parents is this what you want them to repeat.

I'm not saying that to be unkind, I just think you need to really think about the damage this dysfunctional mess can cause.

I know you should ltb but I know that is hard, but you can take steps, start getting your ducks in a row secretly, you can get into counselling to find that self worth that you need to realise you deserve so much better than this dirty, creepy, vile man.

Flowers
MMmomDD · 23/11/2022 19:07

@bookishmumof5 - back when you suggested an open marriage - was that for you to be able to see other people too? Or so they it’s easier for you - so you can try to not worry about ‘catching’ him?
If the latter - you are effectively living in an open marriage situation. So - why bother monitoring him? It’s been 7 years already.

He clearly doesn’t want an intimate relationship with you, and hasn’t wanted for a while. You have a business and 5 kids.
It all seems more like a partnership. I am guessing untangling your lives is not easy - and will involve damaging the business. And you are unlikely to be able to continue homeschooling.
So - what do you want? You seem like a pragmatic and strong woman. What do you want to do - given the multiple constraints and complications?

(personally - I’d make a short/long term plan. In the short term - I’d just continue with business/child rearing as is, while rebuilding self esteem. Would focus on what makes me happy, and if that was acting on the open marriage on my side - so be it.
For long term - I’d plan out how and when to untangle myself financially. Maybe when kids are older.
I’d also be sending them to school eventually - because reclaiming my own life while constantly focusing on 5 kids and their education - is impossible)

DosCervezas · 23/11/2022 19:22

Not only is his behaviour totally wrong, he's also telling you all about his antics too it seems?
These aren't actions that happen by accident or because of some disorder. They are calculated, planned and a choice he's making. It's unbelievable that you're accepting it and continuing to make an effort with him.

charmama · 23/11/2022 19:33

I really struggled to read your post OP, and I am sending you hugs. What an awful man your husband sounds like; he is not even making an attempt to respect you and I find that disgusting. You deserve so much more than this, IMO being on your own is a better option by miles. This man is just having his cake and eating it at your expense.

Get RID of him and find someone who loves & adores you, not someone who's using your hard earned cash to tip sex workers online!

Imagine how your DC would feel if they found out their dad was engaging in this -no other word for it- creepy behaviour? I'm sure they would be totally mortified and disgusted! I'm sure they certainly wouldn't want their DM being treated like this, whether it was by their dad or not!

Chin up, be strong & DIVORCE THAT MAN!

charmama · 23/11/2022 19:36

I'm sorry for commenting again but I'm just in total shock. How dare he get annoyed with you for asking about it!!! PIG. Get out of there, he's literally been cheating on you for 7 years and you're asking what you can do to make it better? I would chop his dick off so he can't wank off to teens anymore, for starters.

This man is a toxic, cheating swine and you need to man up (pun intended) and kick his worthless arse out of your life.

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