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We are thinking of marrying...but unsure if we should. How to know?

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Flllightattendant · 31/01/2008 08:01

Please could some of you give us some advice, as we are so hesitant and cautious that it may never happen!

Basically, throughout the messy thing that my life has been, there's always been one man who has been there, in the background. He and I are the same age, 2 weeks apart...we have both had various relationships and are now single and in our mid thirties.

I have two small children, he said when I had my second, 'Pencil me in for baby #3' and he does adore my first son - he hasn't met the second, as he is working in Bath and not been 'home' for a long while.

He is starting to analyse himself and is seeking some CBT etc in order to make better sense of his life. He is paying off debts. This is exactly what I'm doing as well - we both had a realisation, separately, that we needed to sort ourselves out.

I have never fancied him although a couple of years ago he confessed that he loves me. I've always found him strange and hard to understand but recently I am seeing the 'real' him, under the shy/immature stuff, and actually loving it - he talks in a way that makes me feel totally real and safe. I am liking that a lot.

I've had some bad relationships and chosen unsuitable men in the past so don't trust my judgment an inch. Sometimes I think he's no way ready to be a partner/father, and find it hard to trust him - is that me, or a warning sign? He will ring me, I'll miss the call then ask if he rang, and he'll say he didn't - because he's too proud to admit it - that winds me up, but I think he is learning? He's always kind and gentle.

He's immature in some ways (bad handwriting, draws cartoons, shy/submissive around women) but utterly mature in other ways and getting moreso all the time.

I would so love to be with someone I could rely on and share it all with - I'd also love the children to have someone around.

He earns very little as a chef/washer up, because he prefers to do a low profile job and spend the nights painting. he is keen to support us but worried he couldn't.

I'm also quite independant, possibly - afraid I'd be too selfish or unuseful as a partner. Above all, afraid of my own inability to trust - because I can't see the wood for the trees.

At this stage in our lives we're not thinking about 'dating' etc but about actually going the whole commitment thing, because that's what we're both after - we think. No point messing about iyswim!

Does this sound plausible? Or do we sound like a couple of f*ckwits, destined to failure?

The fact he's getting insightful and wanting to change seems good to me. I just don't know whether to trust it all.

Helllllpppppppp!

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Lulumama · 31/01/2008 09:21

that is really interesting moopy

Flllightattendant · 31/01/2008 09:24

He's been on about it for a long time...years really. At least two years. He is also questioning whether it's something we would have done by now, if we were going to. He says I make him feel very calm which is not his usual self, he likes that.

Maybe living together would be the natural thing, but there always seem to be reasons why it would not be a good idea - money, mainly. Also that would probably prevent us being married as there's no way he could support us at the moment.

It is a daft fantasy I suppose. Perhaps by the time we're forty, things might have changed enough for us to get on with it.

I need to pull myself out of depression as well, and get interested in a career, and he needs to stop setting himself up to fail.

These things do take a long time don't they.

It's not very sensible to just jump in knowing that we each have a fair bit of work to do in terms of our own mindsets etc.

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Flllightattendant · 31/01/2008 09:25

Cross posted again, yes Moopy that is fascinating...will look it up I think and do some reading.

If you want to practise counselling on somebody, please come round!!!

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moopymoo · 31/01/2008 09:27

ive been cleared just last week to work with real actual people rather than each other at college so if i were you i would wait to see if i make anyone worse first ...

Lulumama · 31/01/2008 09:28

i think if you can be friends/ lovers/ partners for now, then great

but if you've had two years of this, and in the meantime you had a baby with someone else, that says soemthihg

he might be in love with the idea of being in love and marrying you and 'rescuing' you?

he sounds like his heart is in the right place, but you both need to try dating, then living together before anything else happens

it is lovely to be desired though !

Flllightattendant · 31/01/2008 09:32

Yes it's a heady feeling

He came round one summer day when I was still seeing Ds2's father. We were sat in the garden, I was questioning my relationship at that point, and recall making a choice - I knew I wanted a baby and I was trying to choose whether to stay with the man I was with, or take a chance on my lovely old friend, who was more than willing...
I told myself not to be so silly, and stayed with Ds2's dad, well for the next 3 months util he became intolerably abusive.

I chose him because I fancied him more, and because things were 'usually Ok - I think' and I told myself I was imagining the signs that he was not a good choice.

That's kind of how it happened.

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Lulumama · 31/01/2008 09:51

that is sad, but at least you have the self knowledge to know in hindsight it was wrong. but who is to say this chap would have been the right choice, just because he was there? ok, he is not abusive, but if he is flighty and could well just disappear when the urge takes him , you are in the same boat.

Flllightattendant · 31/01/2008 09:57

Very true...
Thanks x

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Lulumama · 31/01/2008 09:58

my work here is done !

orf to mums and tots ! eeek !

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