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was he after my money?

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longchamp22 · 12/11/2022 23:58

I realised reading few threads here and even one today that I may not be as alone as I thought I am.

Here is my story. I will try to keep it short. Emphasis on TRY! Few years ago I met a man (big age gap), we started a relationship. It was my last call to have a baby then but he had vasectomy before meeting me, however he told me he intends to reverse it. I was happy to pursue this in a hope we will build a family together. He already had adult children. I was also in a very good financial position and in a process of buying a property out right. He started making all sorts of obstructions to me buying my own property and to us having a child. I did not see it at first. The plan was he will be looking to have his reversal done. He will keep his house. I will progress with a purchase of my own property and we will rent to see first how things are. In our then circumstances it was most sensible.

Each time there was a suitable property and I wanted to progress he would start an argument and make me feel guilty of buying my own place ( I wanted it as a security blanket and investment). Initially I trusted he had my best interest at heart but after yet another argument I became suspicious.

He was renting out his place and I was happy for him to have that income so why was I made to feel guilty to do the same? His idea was that he thought I should put all my money into a property with him. I did not understand why since he already had his place. Location was not suitable for us to live there and blend with work. He became very adamant about what type of place we should buy and where and it was not what I wanted. It was all what he wanted. Why should I put all my money into a mortgage with him for a big house I do not want whereas instead both of us can be mortgage free having our own places? Additionally I was also taking into consideration the risk with his children later becoming beneficiaries of what I put in. Just did not make any sense.
Surely everyone wants to be mortgage free asap not take mortgage late in life. When people plan retirement they want to downsize not take mortgage for a bigger place.

The age gap between us also meant that whilst he is retired I would still be paying it all off whilst working. Here comes the baby to play (or rather not). I was not quite sure where would the baby that I so wanted come to play and fit into the scenario. Each time we would start the topic he would end up shouting at me that if we do not buy a house together there is no way we are going to have a child at current place (mews house rental). Mews house was too small in his opinion, he wanted big detached house with a hobby room for him. After a while of listening to his shouting (each time same arguments were raised) I began to realise that there is no space in his life, mind, heart for a baby but plenty to manage my finances and his retirement plan. It got to the point that he started pushing for a wedding. I did not want to get married as at that point I started to feel something is not right. He was desperate for wedding with me, mortgage with me but not a child with me which the latter was priority considering my age.

Each time I was trying to progress with the process of us having a baby he would find a hoop for me to jump through. Eventually he decided that perhaps I should go to the doctors first before he goes because maybe I am in fact infertile considering I did not have children and he obviously had kids before so he knows everything is ok with him. It hurt.
I booked myself to a clinic. I was happily surprised at the time when the doctor said despite my age I had good chances for a healthy pregnancy. All was good. I insisted for further more expensive tests which only confirmed that I was all well and good to get pregnant. I got the results and asked him if he wants to see them. He said no. It hurt again.
At that point I was waiting when is he going to go to the doctors. Months were passing by, he didn't. Eventually I raised the topic again and guess what another hurdle - he told me that I should go to another doctor and he will go with me. Go again through same set of tests as if the previous were not valid to him. It felt he was almost hoping that eventually my tests will come out bad enough so he can say 'oh well see you can't have children'. I felt awful.

I lived my life feeling I am in some sort of a game. I came over here and started reading all sorts of stories which made my head spin but in a good way. I started wondering what is his motivation. Why is he with me. Is he looking for a younger free carer when he is older? just no more kids as he wants peace. I read here about nurse with a purse which is a great phrase. Part of me started doubting - perhaps I am wrong, maybe I am over sensitive but then again the arguments were so intense and money focused my gut feel was screaming. Eventually he started asking questions about my inheritance which I also felt was inappropriate. I later read here about women sharing how their partners are complaining about money ie fishing for financial help. I had that too. He made me feel guilty few times that I was debt free to then say in next sentence that I am stupid with money. I felt he was pure envious. I also thought it was odd for an middle aged man to be complaining about money whilst owning a house and having a six figure job. It just did not add up. I wonder what do you think? What was going on? Where could this all end up?
A bit long in the end. sorry. x

OP posts:
Pipersouth · 13/11/2022 00:05

Yes he is after your money….and is only using the baby as bait I’m afraid. Don’t buy a house with him don’t put your life on hold. Read back what you’ve written and there are red flags all over it. Good luck trying to back out because he’ll love bomb you when he realised he’s losing you and all the financials that come with you.

ThistleSifter · 13/11/2022 00:06

Hi op - sorry I didn’t read every word as it’s clear you have huge (not unfounded) doubts, and you seem to be answering your own question because of all the examples and reasons. So do you just want permission to inwardly admit the clear fact that yanbu? If so - you have full permission.

ChaToilLeam · 13/11/2022 00:08

Just get rid of this horrible man. Yes, he is at it.

blueshoes · 13/11/2022 00:10

I'd say trust your gut.

From reading your post, I get the impression he wants you and him to own a big house jointly and he does not want a baby. He might be after your money and a free carer in retirement. Using your labour to pay off a joint mortgage whilst he is in retirement.

How long have you sunk into him. How old are you if you want babies.

If you think things do not add up, have you researched him? Google his online presence. Does it indicate he is in a senior position with a 6 figure salary. Someone with that salary would have an employment history that makes sense. Look at his linkedin. For his property, you can do a search on the HM Land Registry to check the owner and whether there are any bank charges/mortgages on it or whether he owns it outright.

Is he already retired or approaching retirement and how long more. Does he talk about retirement a lot?

How did you two meet?

Purplecatshopaholic · 13/11/2022 00:16

Jeezo op, you are spot on. I am so sorry but this man is a low life, out for what he can get. I haven’t actually heard the phrase nurse with a purse before but it sounds scarily accurate. Please dump him, you deserve so much better.

anon666 · 13/11/2022 00:20

I'm so sorry to say this bit he does sound manipulative. Maybe he doesn't really know what he's doing, it's just selfish. Or he might be deliberately stifling your progress and dreams.

He's stalling on having a child, that's my main worry. I don't like the sound of the house thing, or pushing for the wedding. He sounds very keen on controlling you, but with no compromise of his own. If he wanted to reverse the vasectomy he would have got started straight away. He's using it as a bargaining chip, with maybe no intention of ever seeing it through.

It sounds like you are thankfully starting to see through it. Please get away from this horrible man, unless he is wonderful in a million ways you've not explained.

Johnnysgirl · 13/11/2022 00:21

Yes, he is. To be fair, a bloke with adult children whose had a vasectomy was never a particularly great choice for fathering your baby, if you're short on time.

Thatskindafun · 13/11/2022 00:24

You don’t understand any of the decisions you as a couple are making and you seem confused and foggy about it all but you’re fairly sure it’s not fair.
when you try to get it clear in your head he shouts at you and you give up. He makes you feel guilty and you give up.

doesn’t really matter if he’s after your money or he’s just a dick
either way he isn’t having a baby and your relationship won’t develop how you want.

trust your gut op!

blueshoes · 13/11/2022 00:24

I don't know if you are short of time but frankly donor sperm is far more fuss free and you don't have this controlling life-suck around your neck.

Northernmumoftwoboys · 13/11/2022 00:26

This man sounds vile. Does he have any positive attributes? You sound like an intelligent person with a lot going for you. Please don't buy a house with him!

Applecustard35 · 13/11/2022 00:26

I hope your next post will be to tell us you have dumped him.
NEVER EVER jeopardise your finances.

This low life isn’t interested in having any more children, and there is no guarantee if he did get a vasectomy reversed it would work, in-fact I wouldn’t put it past him to say he had it reversed and he hadn’t and trick you into marrying him.

You buy a property or marry this low life, I can guarantee within the new few years you will be on here asking for advice about how to save your finances.

NickEccles · 13/11/2022 01:03

He sounds like a total twat.......

CandidClarisse · 13/11/2022 06:10

He's not a regular money grabbing cock lodger as he has a 6 figure job and his own home, but, he 100% doesn't want a baby and his house aspirations differ from yours so for those reasons you are not a good match. He is stringing you a long hoping your fertile years will run out, if you want a baby I'd get rid.

happinessischocolate · 13/11/2022 06:23

It's good news that the test say you can get pregnant. One day a similar test will say you can't. So get out now and find someone you can have a family with. Money or no money, it's the family life I'd be concentrating on.

And when you meet someone else, dont tell them about your financial position until you know they're genuinely into you.

Aprilx · 13/11/2022 06:36

No I don’t get the impression he was after your money, because I would presume you would have your proper % ownership reflected in the deeds of any house purchase. I got the impression he doesn’t want what you want though and I got the impression you are completely incompatible.

I personally find it weird that you want to have a baby with this man but you don’t want to a own a property together. My husband and I have pooled our resources to buy a house together, that we have built a life in together. If we were you, we would have bought a house each, rented them out and rented a tiny house for ourselves to live in. Nope not for me. It feels like you saw him more as a talking sperm donor rather than somebody you truly wanted to share your life with. You might be better off genuinely going for donation.

PurplePinecone · 13/11/2022 06:39

I think every concern you have is right. If he truely wanted a baby with you, you would have a baby by now.

I think you should break up with him now. He's not concerned about you at all in this. He's only thinking of himself. They fact that he's letting your childbearing years waste away with no intention of having a child with you tells you everything you need to know. If you do decide to end it with him, be prepared for him to be ready for a baby after all! Whatever you do, don't buy with him, go with your original plan of buying your own place. Honestly I think the sperm donor idea would work out a lot better for you!

PearPickingPorky · 13/11/2022 06:50

Yes, he wants your money.

I think you've been a fool.

If you really want a baby, use donor sperm and IVF.

Walk away from this man ASAP.

Hudsonriver · 13/11/2022 06:55

I think you have posted endlessly about this man before and been given the same advice over and over.
It's not going to change - yes he's after your money , no he's not having a child with you .
LTB

curious79 · 13/11/2022 07:00

He’s very controlling and definitely seems to want your money. He’s spotted he can string you along by dangling the promise of giving you a child (though he’s not doing anything about it).
why are you even with him? Do you love him? Does he bring you any joy?
it feels like you’ve tied yourself to him but don’t really like the relationship.
leave now!!!

Bananalanacake · 13/11/2022 08:39

Your title suggests you are no longer in a relationship with him, if so Well done, buy a property and don't let a man share it.

ListeningButNotHearing · 13/11/2022 08:56

He’s a conniving bastard, who
obviously thinks you are extremely dumb and naive.

2catsandhappy · 13/11/2022 08:58

How are you this morning @longchamp22 ? Your reasoned and thought out post is crystal clear to me. The two of you have different goals. Today would be an excellent day to dump him.

F0ggyM0rning · 13/11/2022 09:09

You want different things & you are in different stages of your lives

You want a child - make this happen, but not with this man

Buy a property & live in it yourself

Prioritise what you want, not what other people want

Quiegal · 13/11/2022 09:12

@longchamp22

Definitely sounds like he after your money. But wondering why he wants you to marry him and against you both having a baby.

ABJ100 · 13/11/2022 09:15

Huge age gap, adult children, had a vasectomy done - none of that rang any bells or flags for you?? Sorry this one is on you. It's quite obvious from the go that at the least children were a long shot.