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Please am I in the wrong? I don't want to loose my bestfriend

111 replies

Totesgoats111 · 01/11/2022 10:38

I have this beautiful friend. She has been my best friend for four years. She is a great listener, supportive, super loyal. All the things I wanted in a dream friend. A week and a half ago we had a really sudden friend break up that has rocked me to my core. I had no indication she was going to pull this on me. I am worried that this story could seemed biased but I will tell it by series of events. We will call my best friend A.
A went to Europe for over a month back in July. Me and our other friend, lets call them S looked after her two cats. We couldn't house sit because we both work fulltime but we took turns everyday going to their house, feeding and playing with the cats and then going home.

She bought us uber eats vouchers as compensation which at the time I thought was super sweet. I was just happy to hangout with the cats so it worked out. After those 5 weeks she went back to Europe less than a month ago for
2 and a half weeks. Last minute A asked my friend and I if we could stop by their house to take care of the cats again.

I want to make a point of saying, by A's request the cats were only seeing people around 2 hours a day for almost 8 weeks.
So I'm taking care of her cats and a couple of days before they get back, one of their cats pooped on their bed! I messaged her because it seemed weird for the cat to do that. She said he'd only do that if the kitty litter wasn't clean.
To give some perspective, I've never owned a pet in my whole life, neither has S. A sent a video explanation of how to take care of the cats. In that video she clearly told us, you don't have to clean the kitty litter everyday!

To be hyper vigilante, I was but apparently i wasn't cleaning it thorough enough. Obviously, I should have asked more questions, or kept better tabs on them. But we took care of them for 5 weeks previously without this problem. For some reason this time it went wrong. One of their two cats ended up getting a UTI. I want to say, any pet owner has every right to be frustrated. That's their baby, and it got sick under my care, any hard or sad feelings from her, I am here for. But the situation just escalated.
A and her partner went completely cold on us. I asked them if they were annoyed with us and they did keep saying they were fine but their tones indicated they absolutely were not okay. Me and S just left it. If they said they weren't upset then there wasn't much we could do.
But it got worse, it was A's birthday the day after she got home. I cleaned her whole house, I bought her flowers and left her a little love note in her apartment. She got home and did not message me, I followed up being like "Hey! Hope you saw the flowers, they were kind of hidden! Love you!"
Her message was pretty cold, just "Yep i found them, thanks! The kitty litter was dirty though". I had absolutely cleaned it but I assumed maybe the cats had dirtied it a lot before they got home.

Anyway I send her this long heartfelt birthday message about how much I love her and sending photos of our memories. She essentially just responded with "It's not my birthday, my birthday is in two days but thanks anyway"

Obviously I felt like a huge idiot. I misread her partners texts, I thought he was saying it was Wednesday. I tried to explain to her that I genuinely just got the dates mixed up and I knew what day it was and she was like "Please don't lie" I wasn't lying! I had made a geniune mistake!!

I was planning a little birthday celebration for her. I kept trying to ask her when I could see her to give her the present and do the little plan I had made but she said she was too busy to see me. I left my gift at her house. She messaged me when she got the gift saying "Thanks for giving me your Gatchapon, you really didn't have to do that"

Gatchapon are just little Japanese trinkets you can get from vending machines, there were two that she constantly told me how much she wanted that I owned, like CONSTANTLY. I went out and found them and i got this hand made cat figure that looks like her cats for her. That message felt soooo weird, I messaged back being like, they aren't my gatchapons? I bought them for you because you said you wanted them! She didn't respond.

This story is getting so long but, I'd asked her endlessly when she wanted to hang. She said she'd be studying, one of our friends birthday party was on Saturday night. She said clearly to me I'm not going to her party because I'm busy. I didn't question her. I went to the party.
Slight back story for this girl, Me and A were super super close with this friend her, lets call her E. I had some times with E where I had felt uncomfortable and hurt by her. It took me a long time to process but I ended up confiding in A about it because A also knew E well. A was so supportive and immediately was mad on my behalf. One of the things that hurt me was that, E was one of the first people I had ever been open about my queerness too. A day after I had told E I felt like she used it as a way to tease me in front of a group of people. There were a lot of other things that happened with this girl but that was one of them.
E also slept with one of A's close friends ex boyfriends (This really really upset her, she called me almost yelling about it), E had lied about A and just was an unreliable friend from A had told me. I thought that my feelings toward A were just extras on top of an already big situation. Before A left for this last two week trip, both she and I communicated to E that we both had different things we were hurt by.

I didn't originally want to go to E's party but ever since I had sent that message to E, E has done everything in her power to make it up to me. She has tried to be so supportive, constantly sending me loving and understanding message. E was immediately ready to make amends. I know I still have to keep strong boundaries with E, but with time I started to look at E as more of a flawed person that was going through something deeply traumatic herself. I don't want E to be as close anymore but I thought I could forgive her whilst still keeping some distance. She really wanted me at her party and I felt like it was the mature thing to do and a way to let go of my hurt, I was trying to be kind to E.

Again from what A had told, she was studying all weekend. Two days after I go to E's party she sent me this super angry message essentially being like "oh so you guys are besties again?"
I said exactly what I said of "No, I just wanted to maturely end a friendship, I didn't stay at the party long, I just stopped by and said happy birthday and left"

I am shortening what A said but what I have interpreted from what she said back, she blew up at me saying how I have put her in the middle of me and E's situation and that I haven't been honest and I have bad communication. She also said I was the sole reason she had distanced herself from E. When I asked about all the times she had been so upset about other things she said she was only upset because I had originally been upset, she was just being loyal and that those issues were never a big deal to begin with. I tried to remain calm and I just said "Hey it seems like you're really upset and I totally wanna be here for that, I don't fully understand what I did wrong but lets talk about it in person."
Her message back was along the lines of "We have nothing to talk about. My life is soooo much better after considering that I don't need certain people
(I.e me) I want focus on other people. You were my best friend but sometimes things change, I guess we have different values but I'm okay to move on"

I was obviously devastated, a week before this whole ordeal she was telling me how I was her one and only true best friend and how she has never loved anyone like me before, now this.

I did end up having a big conversation with E, originally i wanted to confront her about all the times I felt she had been really mean to me but instead I went at the conversation like "How are you?". She had the most traumatic year and whilst I still believe she was nasty for not much reason, I wanted to address how she was rather than bringing up the past. Also the homophobic comments felt super super heavy to address, I'm still not fully comfortable in my queerness and I just needed to take confronting E one step at a time.
After I spoke to E, I suppose A spoke to her afterwards because I got this really cryptic message from A saying "Me and E just sat down and had an HONEST conversation for once that has painted a much big picture of what is happening. I will need space from you until I can process the really hectic things that I've heard"

If you're reading this and you feel like details have been left out, I feel the same. I like to think I'm someone that doesn't like or intentionally hurt others. But I feel like I've done both these things. I spoke to E after this message because perhaps she knows what A is talking about. E seemed completely oblivious to what A was referring to. The most she could elude to was that they were both annoyed at me that I hadn't confronted E earlier. I don't blame them for that. I held onto my feelings for months and that obviously isn't healthy. But I also didn't know how to process it. It felt so huge and I've had my own traumtic things I had to process outside of mine and E's relationship that was taking up all of my emotional energy.
I want to be accountable for my mistakes. I know I could have communicated better but I feel like the worst people on the planet because I've clearly hurt my best friend but she can't tell me how.
I've been sending her like "I love you! Hope you're doing well" messages but she is not responding.

I do know that A has shared with E my feelings about E being mean etc without my permission. I didn't think she would but she believes good communication is just being super direct, honest and kind of harsh about how she is feeling. I like to take time to process and not fully believe my feelings. I like to think about how I say things, I guess that means I'm not saying exactly how I feel with words but I like to think I get my point across whilst also being positive. Me and E were able to grow together because I didn't accuse her. I know A has accused E on my behalf and I do think that's what she is eluding to when she is saying I'm not being fully honest.
(As just a side note, L has also been experiencing intense coldness and passive aggressiveness from both A and her partner. Right up until A and E spoke, suddenly A's partner message L saying "Someone is twisiting our words!! We love you and we want to stay your friend." I do think they are referring to me, L is completely on my side because L knows I haven't interfered or change anything they said, everything they said was over text message lol I can't really twist what is written down)

I'm deeply distressed, I don't want to loose my friend but I cannot understand how to fix this situation

OP posts:
micedontpaint · 01/11/2022 14:33

That was too long to read past the UTI.

You did her a favour. If she loves her cats so much then why go away for a month and leave them?

Also sorry but she's not a good friend and she isn't your best friend, she's a knob. Fuck her off. If she wants to come back and apologies all very well and good.

PaPaCem · 01/11/2022 14:33

Are you 11?

SparklingLime · 01/11/2022 14:41

If you're reading this and you feel like details have been left out, I feel the same.

That is most definitely not what I am feeling.

SantaScribe · 01/11/2022 14:50

Good grief

MermaidEyes · 01/11/2022 16:20

justusandmoo · 01/11/2022 13:22

I can't get past the bit where you left her a little love note....

After reading further and seeing that op is queer, I'm starting to think that she has more than just friendly feelings for A and that's why A is pulling away

PollyAmour · 01/11/2022 16:20

She's not your friend, she's horrible.

She should pay for a professional cat sitter and stop abusing your good nature.

diddl · 01/11/2022 16:32

it was A's birthday the day after she got home. I cleaned her whole house, I bought her flowers and left her a little love note in her apartment.

That is so creepy.

tunthebloodyalarmoff · 01/11/2022 16:55

Omg that is just too long. From what I gather she asked you to look after the cats which you did in good faith amd to the best of your ability so I don't think you have done anything wrong. She's got a check to blame you for anything.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 01/11/2022 18:02

PollyAmour · 01/11/2022 16:20

She's not your friend, she's horrible.

She should pay for a professional cat sitter and stop abusing your good nature.

As a professional cat sitter I wouldn't touch this fruit loop with a barge pole except to re-home the cats.

serenghetti2011 · 01/11/2022 18:07

Get a book deal. Jeez
don’t look after any more cats, people can pay for a cattery, your ‘friend’ is an ungrateful cow

CoopsMalloops · 01/11/2022 18:12

A is either a self entitled princess bitch or in an abusive relationship where partner is trying to ostracise her friends. A is also a bad pet owner.

fghj149 · 01/11/2022 18:12

I’ve always had pets, if a cat or dog ended up with a uti I wouldn’t go blaming friends that had done me a favour by looking after them! Cats get these things anyway IME.

A is an arsehole that does not deserve your kind friendship by the sound of it.

Watchtowerofthenorth · 01/11/2022 20:20

Sorry but who the fuck is L?

Lost me almost completely there but from what I gather……your overly invested and in love with a heterosexual woman who’s using you because you want to please her and jump at her every whim.

Shes a horrible friend. Stop looking after her cats. Stop leaving her love notes. Get a hobby. Find a relationship with a wanting and willing partner.

TastesLikeFlavourlessFizz · 01/11/2022 20:33

Ok I gave up at E’s entry to the saga but my thoughts are:

Your friend is a cunt. For a variety of reasons.

You did your best with her cats.

You're quite full on and it’s a lot. Probably wise to work on that.

The main thing is, she needs to get in the bin.

Sova · 01/11/2022 20:46

I can’t imagine being so entitled when people offer their time to look after my cat. A sounds entitled and horrible.
Is this a pattern where you give so much of yourself to people? You sound a bit vulnerable.

CJsGoldfish · 01/11/2022 22:51

I started reading but ended up skimming but then had to go back and read because I couldn't figure out who the fuck 'L' is. Annoyed about that. lol
Not that reading it gave any kind of clarity.
You are WAAAAY too intense OP. Scarily so. There are many, many threads about men who behave that way.

You also sound really young. Maybe counselling would help so that you don't carry this kind of behaviour way into adulthood

Jewel7 · 01/11/2022 22:56

I didn’t read it all. Back off from your friend. She needs space. It’s not your fault about the cat. She should have a paid cat sitter. The cat was probably protesting as they had gone so long. The more you contact her the worse it looks like you need her. Go cold turkey. Let her think it through. Hopefully she will realise you are a decent friend. If not your an adult. It’s annoying but she overreacted.

GreenLunchBox · 01/11/2022 22:58

I stopped reading halfway through.

If somebody doesn't appreciate your efforts you need to back off. I usually go silent and let them come to me. If they don't come to you then they never were going to. Don't beg-a-friend.

Chattycathydoll · 01/11/2022 23:10

Holy crap, not rtft but I think A is my ex best friend. Had a similar incident of being great friends, literally described me as her best friend then she ghosted me. Same birthday, also named A, also 2 cats, collects Japanese trinkets…

We didn’t get in a fight, she just straight up ghosted me out of nowhere. I found out that her previous closest friend, who I thought from what A said had betrayed her, had been distanced for good reason but after a brief conversation with her it was clear a similar thing had happened- she upset A, and A immediately dropped her and moved on to me.

If it’s not her, it’s crazy there’s two As out there being like this.

MrsMoastyToasty · 01/11/2022 23:11

A is an areshole.

They are cruel to leave cats for so long (they don't deserve to own them ). I'm of the belief that cats should be able to go outdoors for exercise, toileting, hunting and patrolling their territory. If they do have to leave them in someone else's care then the instructions for looking after them should be detailed.

But like everyone else if I was you I would take a step back.

Cornishclio · 01/11/2022 23:16

I too got confused half way through.

A is a rubbish pet owner and should be thanking you for looking after them for 10 weeks! The uti and pooing on the bed is no doubt due to the stress of their owners going AWOL for over two months.

The love notes, birthday plans etc etc are way over the top.

The situation between E and A with you in the middle sounds like playground stuff.

You all sound like teenagers.

Ingrainedagainstthegrain · 01/11/2022 23:19

You're so over invested. I think this was always going to end with you getting hurt.

Neither of these people are nice and you can't waste your energy trying to understand it. You need to lean into the grief and make space for a new season. This is a painful new start.

Some work on boundaries and not taking inappropriate responsibility might be helpful for you.

Schnooze · 01/11/2022 23:25

Again stopped reading half way through. Back off. She’ll come crawling back when she needs a cat sitter again. Put in boundaries if you want to continue the friendship.personally I’d tell her where to go.

Mañanarama · 01/11/2022 23:27

”I'm deeply distressed, I don't want to loose my friend but I cannot understand how to fix this situation”

Stop fucking talking so much.

It is not normal to need big serious talks with friends; you’re overthinking, oversharing, emotionally time consuming, and really intense. I’d need space too.

Hawkins001 · 01/11/2022 23:32

Totesgoats111 · 01/11/2022 10:51

Thanks for your responses hahah this was definitely a huge rant. I completely agree with you guys, I feel like I'm in high school again, this sucks.

Her behaviour has changed! She has actually been with her partner for 4 years and last time I spoke to her they were on the verge of breaking up. I've tried to support her but like you said she just keeps freezing me out. Not completely sure why not but you're right I should let go. I'm lucky to have L, she has been a very level headed, undramatic friend.

Thankyou all for responding! Have a great day everyone!!

Ill admit I've read 3/4 and semi skimmed some,
That said a big thank you for all the details,I wish more mumsnetter posts were this level.

That said as for the friendship, I'd suggest just riding it out, with me and a colleague, we seemed to get along quite well but other times im doing x and they are ok, other times I do x, and it's like I get the omg 😲 sorts thing, I think sometimes if they have other things bugging them, the. They could be just stressing etc. All the best op

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