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How long to wait for the joy to return?

56 replies

CatSatMat · 29/09/2022 11:05

I’m reflecting on my current relationship. We’re nearing our 2 year anniversary and things aren’t as wonderful as they once were. But I’m well aware that initial sparks and passion and thinking the sun shines out of their arse can’t last forever! But he doesn’t bring me much joy anymore. In fact on reflection I think he makes my life harder and I walk around on egg shells.

He is perhaps a little down at the moment. I didn’t want to be that person who left him when he was down. It’s Work/money issues which he is now doing something about, so I am hopeful for improvements in his general mood. Because he can be quick to anger, and I worry that is a bad environment for my kids (5 & 9). He does show anger in front of them in a hot headed manner: road rage etc. and sometimes gets annoyed by them (food/mealtime issues with youngest). never violent. But he almost like a toddler having a tantrum himself: not learnt any self control.

I really really dislike arguing. Would chew off my own arm to avoid confrontation. He does get angry at me too. Usually because of thinly disguised jealousy. For instance usual flare up is about the fact that I have a good relationship with their father and will not have him criticising him. It was getting unbearable, but he has now stopped drinking so is not nearly as bigger problem.

So. I think he is making big changes to his life (work and drinking): which will hopefully change his general demeanour and attitude. And then life with him might get more positive again. So I’m still hanging on in there. How long to wait though? He is trading on past glories so to speak. It was beautiful. I think he gets a lot out of our relationship. Me? When we’ve got a child-free weekend we’re a-ok. But during the week when he’s tired, I’d almost prefer him not to be here so I can get on looking after my kids in peace.

OP posts:
Toddlerteaplease · 29/09/2022 11:08

Leave, the joy won't return. You should not be walking on eggshells. You deserve better.

CatSatMat · 29/09/2022 11:26

Gosh: having someone else say it as stark as that shook me. It wouldn’t be very easy to end it. He lives here now. He’s just started retraining. So nowhere to go, and not much cash flow.

Writing all this down has made me realise he is making changes. Because of my avoidance issues, I’ve not brought many of my feelings to his attention. Maybe it’s not fair to end things right now.

OP posts:
MsPavlichenko · 29/09/2022 11:29

He’s an abuser. He’s grooming you to see his behaviour as acceptable/excusable. It’s not fair to your DC not to make him leave now.

CatSatMat · 29/09/2022 12:25

He has anger issues. Which I find difficult (I do not like confrontation). Is it abuse though? Are you saying we’re potentially building up to something more recognisable as abuse? Can’t he learn to deal with his anger differently?

OP posts:
DoingJustFine · 29/09/2022 12:30

He sounds awful. And you're making your very young children live with someone who is often angry. They have no choice!

HMSSophia · 29/09/2022 12:35

Sounds dire. Jealous, angry tantruming man? What's to like??

ChocChipOwl · 29/09/2022 12:36

Good god woman.

Put your kids first and remove this horrible angry dickhead from their lives

ChocChipOwl · 29/09/2022 12:37

And honestly , stop trying to psychoanalyse him. Stop thinking about how you can 'help him be less cross'

Who cares?

You will regret staying with him in time. This is not fair on your kids who do not have a choice

Ofcourseshecan · 29/09/2022 12:45

ChocChipOwl · 29/09/2022 12:36

Good god woman.

Put your kids first and remove this horrible angry dickhead from their lives

I couldn't agree more. You don't owe him a thing.

Ofcourseshecan · 29/09/2022 12:47

Road rage alone should be a deal-breaker. He could kill someone.

KILM · 29/09/2022 12:49

It doesnt matter why, or that he's trying to make things better - he thinks its acceptable to lose his shit in front of kids that arent his on a regular basis.
All your children are going to learn is:
Losing your temper all the time is normal and okay
You need to walk on eggshells and people please in hope of not setting an angry person off

Is that REALLY what you want? He's only been with you two years and thinks its okay to get angry around your kids? Big red flag.

RatherBeRiding · 29/09/2022 12:52

Look. He's got major issues - anger, jealousy, being irritable with YOUR children while living in YOUR house and you admit you're walking on eggshells.

Whatever his issues and problems, they are not yours to fix. Your children must be your priority.

The relationship is not working for you anymore - you are going to have to end it and let him deal with his issues himself.

Aquamarine1029 · 29/09/2022 12:52

Fucking hell, op, he's an abusive arsehole. Stop making excuses for him. You need to end this immediately.

Aquamarine1029 · 29/09/2022 12:54

Your poor kids. Think about them, op. Him not having anywhere to go is not your fucking problem. Get him out now and keep him out. Your kids must be so unhappy with him there.

Scrambledchickens · 29/09/2022 12:56

He sounds awful, damaging for you and your children, please please get rid of him. His accommodation is NOT your problem, tell him to leave.

TammyOne · 29/09/2022 12:57

Why do women obsess about the inside of mens heads so much?? All you need to assess is the impact on yours and your childrens lives:
Good influence, someone makes you and your kids happy, adds value? Keep.
Makes everyone on edge, life easier without them? Lose.
It doesn’t MATTER why he is like this. It’s not your fault or your responsibility. He has nowhere else to live? He’s an adult he can find somewhere. Stay safe though and if you feel threatened report to the police.

Dery · 29/09/2022 12:59

@TammyOne has nailed it. It is irrelevant why he behaves a certain way. Looking for reasons is a way of letting him off the hook. The only things that matter are how does he behave and what effect does it have on you and your children?

Regularsizedrudy · 29/09/2022 13:02

Grow a back bone and stop subjecting your poor kids to this misery.

he has no cash? Not your fucking problem. He is an ADULT.

Jessibeth · 29/09/2022 13:03

Why do women do this to their children? It makes me so angry. He isn’t even their father. Put them first and walk away.

PaperPalace · 29/09/2022 13:05

Anger issues? Gets annoyed with your kids over minor issues? Jealous of you? Drinks too much? Doesn't pull his weight financially?

He sounds awful OP. I wouldn't be giving him any more chances if I were you. A man who is only ok when you have a child free weekend together is not a good man.

Chdjdn · 29/09/2022 13:09

It sounds like an awful environment for your children to be honest. Also I think two years in if it’s like this irs not necessarily going to get better. We can all go through hard times but taking it out on the other person isn’t on

shedwithivy · 29/09/2022 13:20

RatherBeRiding · 29/09/2022 12:52

Look. He's got major issues - anger, jealousy, being irritable with YOUR children while living in YOUR house and you admit you're walking on eggshells.

Whatever his issues and problems, they are not yours to fix. Your children must be your priority.

The relationship is not working for you anymore - you are going to have to end it and let him deal with his issues himself.

Succinctly put. Agree with this

2022NewTimes · 29/09/2022 13:28

@CatSatMat Look at Sunk Cost Fallacy...if he is like this after two years god help you once you are married and pregnant with his child !!
Boot him out now - you and your children do not deserve to live like this. He does not deserve your support of sympathy. He has shown you who he is - believe him and put yourself and your children first. He will revert back to type !! Take this from someone that put up with it for 30 YEARS..... it will NOT change as this is who is is....

OldWivesTale · 29/09/2022 13:31

Put your children first and leave him. He's an adult, you shouldn't be trying to fix his problems.

SnackyOnassis · 29/09/2022 13:54

Can imagine how your children, when they're grown adults, would describe their home life?
If the presence of this man does anything other than enhance their memories of the life you'd give them on your own, then he serves no purpose for any of you. Get rid.