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Abusive relationship?

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WhatDoWeDo2022 · 23/09/2022 21:32

DD (18) first boyfriend was a couple of years back. He would pop over after work, take her out, buy her little bunches of flowers and after a while we would have card nights, BBQs etc.
it fizzled out quite amicably for what ever reason and they both moved on.

new boyfriend, arrived on the scene possibly 6 months/1 year ago. I have never met him face to face, couple of times walking in on a face time call to wave hello and that’s it even though I had offered. He would pick her up late at night once I was asleep for overnight stays at his house, she would be gone days sometimes but I always stayed in touch and I thought things were all good. I now know she was lying to me.

she is obsessed with him, they fight a lot and although I don’t believe it’s become violent it has been nasty emotionally, probably on both sides but not always.
I have tried to stay impartial, let her know I love her etc they have broken up multiple times and she has always come back home to me.

things have very recently taken a turn for the worse, She has changed, she has lost too much weight, lost her job again, stopped going to the gym, seeing her friends and us. My once funny and life loving daughter is a shell of herself.

I should add now that she is autistic, late diagnosis even though I went back and forth with all the agencies for years. She received a formal diagnosis when she was nearly 14. She turned 18 four months ago. She has always thrived from routine and structure.

she was very open and honest with me (so I thought) and her sister and after a few very upset nights after break ups she admitted he is a local drug dealer. Then I discovered she is doing balloons (laughing gas) large quantities which he is giving her. I pray it’s not more but I honestly can’t trust what she is saying.

her sister put her in her maps so we knew where she was when he moved out of area with his parent. A few weeks ago, DD had a terrible evening which i believe was an overuse of these canisters and balloons and accumulated in frantic calls telling us she didn’t know where she was and someone she didn’t know/want was in a car with her.

we went to find her (DDs Dad and I in one car and her sister and friend in another) and whilst driving around back alleys and business estates using the maps location we came across his very distinctive car parked up.
DD wasn’t with him although he did verbally abuse us and threaten us etc
we found her and bought her home but she left in the early hours.

she is now saying she won’t tell us where she is or come home until we apologise to him face to face for “embarrassing him” and “intimidating him” she loves him and will move in with him if we don’t do as she says.

thank you if you have got this far, I know it’s long but I really need to know what I should do.

part of me wants to pass his details somewhere in case he hurts her, I have this feeling of dread. I’m currently blocked on her phone but I don’t know if she knows that, ie he has blocked me? and the last time before the above happened he told her to choose between him and us which she told her sister. He then sent her sister pics of DD at his and when she called he answered her phone, laughed and hung up. I’ve talked to DD about this and she said he told her, he did it to show us she was safe because he knew we didn’t know where she was at that time.

or am I over reacting and should I let DD make her own choices whilst knowing she can always come home?

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WhatDoWeDo2023 · 14/11/2022 20:40

GottaBeStrong · 14/11/2022 10:23

She can take out a non molestation order which is like a restraining order (a restraining order is only issued at the end of a criminal court case), whereas a non molestation order can be issued by itself. Call NCDV and speak to them about it. They will issue one for free and without notice (meaning an emergency type one where it's issued without him being called to court). www.ncdv.org.uk/

Have you spoken to Women's Aid? They can help you and your daughter. She needs a support worker or IDVA. The police can make a referral to your local DV service when you speak to them. They should assess her risk using something called DASH and give her a score. Depending on that, other agencies may gey involved anyway.

I second the idea of referring to Adult Social Care. I'm disabled and classed as vulnerable as a result. It helps with getting extra support.

Maybe a referral to drug and alcohol services would help too. She needs support with her addiction. You need support too - AdFam were a great support to me when trying to cope with my ex's addiction, their forum is excellent. Is her GP aware of what is going on?

All this intervention helps to create a paper trail should she ever need to go to court.

My ex also used naked photos and videos that he had taken without my consent to try to humiliate me (he sent them to a mutual male friend of ours). It is an offence. The police can charge him... it is considered revenge port. I think the charge they suggested for me ex was disclosing of intimate images.

The police officer made an instant referral to ncdv- it took seconds on their phone

and we completed the DASH assessment

I won’t go into much more detail now about the actual case, I need here for support and not to have to ask for it to be deleted due to too much information I’ve shared

I’m so proud of DD, she kept everything factual, it wasn’t easy to hear at some points but it’s done now.

I’ve never hated anyone as much as I hate him right now and I need to contain that so DD only feels supported and loved.

WhatDoWeDo2023 · 14/11/2022 22:20

And, I don’t actual hate him at all. I feel sorry for the dafty.
But he can’t do this to our family and I won’t let him even though I’m not fit or able to stop him and this effects my mental health because it’s all in my head

I’m carrying everyone and all of it. I feel bad for his mum, she sounds like she is scared of him. Thankfully I don’t know how that feels but it doesn’t make this right at all
he needs to stop

GottaBeStrong · 14/11/2022 22:22

I'm so glad that things are moving forward in such a positive way and also that your daughter has found the strength to take back her power.

Hopefully these agencies will be in contact with her now to provide some support. She really needs to have someone at the end of the phone she can turn to, so hopefully they will give her an IDVA or support worker.

Are you able to take some time to get support for yourself? Don't forget to take care of yourself also during this time.

WhatDoWeDo2023 · 14/11/2022 22:38

I’ve sat and listened to what I hoped is the worst of it at this point

i thought I’d heard it all until today. It’s escalated

Im a mum stuck in the middle of a very loving family unit with their ups and downs, we Aren’t perfect- some times, for me it makes it worse because I’m here stuck…

Purple29 · 14/11/2022 22:40

I'm not sure where you are but if your in the UK you can request a disclosure to be done on him and his past if there is domestic violence involved. Its called claires law in England and Wales and DSDAS in Scotland.
The police would disclose any previous history of violence with other partners and it helps keep her fully informed.

His behaviour so far is very abusive, womens aid will help with advice and support.

If he is dealing drugs and he is the one that has caused her addiction, its a control thing. He will be using that to try and control her, also sounds like hes manipulating her to isolate her.

Stalking is really high risk so she will likely score high on the risk questions for the police.

To help speak to her, although she is young, please remember she is the expert in her situation and she knows his patterns of behaviour better than anyone. If she feels at risk, she will likely think its safer to go back. This is why a place like women's aid is good, she can talk but there is not the emotional attachment she will have with you. If he has manipulated her to think she can't trust anyone but him (including you, these men are very good at this) just let her know you are always there and encourage her to seek help.

Really hope this works out OK and she is safe.

WhatDoWeDo2023 · 14/11/2022 23:03

Right now, her dad is cross, taking out on me

it’s ok, I’ll take it, it’s not bad now…

thisisasurvivor · 15/11/2022 05:34

Echoing all this fab advice OP

Thinking of you both

I'm sorry you had to go through all of this

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