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Abusive relationship?

57 replies

WhatDoWeDo2022 · 23/09/2022 21:32

DD (18) first boyfriend was a couple of years back. He would pop over after work, take her out, buy her little bunches of flowers and after a while we would have card nights, BBQs etc.
it fizzled out quite amicably for what ever reason and they both moved on.

new boyfriend, arrived on the scene possibly 6 months/1 year ago. I have never met him face to face, couple of times walking in on a face time call to wave hello and that’s it even though I had offered. He would pick her up late at night once I was asleep for overnight stays at his house, she would be gone days sometimes but I always stayed in touch and I thought things were all good. I now know she was lying to me.

she is obsessed with him, they fight a lot and although I don’t believe it’s become violent it has been nasty emotionally, probably on both sides but not always.
I have tried to stay impartial, let her know I love her etc they have broken up multiple times and she has always come back home to me.

things have very recently taken a turn for the worse, She has changed, she has lost too much weight, lost her job again, stopped going to the gym, seeing her friends and us. My once funny and life loving daughter is a shell of herself.

I should add now that she is autistic, late diagnosis even though I went back and forth with all the agencies for years. She received a formal diagnosis when she was nearly 14. She turned 18 four months ago. She has always thrived from routine and structure.

she was very open and honest with me (so I thought) and her sister and after a few very upset nights after break ups she admitted he is a local drug dealer. Then I discovered she is doing balloons (laughing gas) large quantities which he is giving her. I pray it’s not more but I honestly can’t trust what she is saying.

her sister put her in her maps so we knew where she was when he moved out of area with his parent. A few weeks ago, DD had a terrible evening which i believe was an overuse of these canisters and balloons and accumulated in frantic calls telling us she didn’t know where she was and someone she didn’t know/want was in a car with her.

we went to find her (DDs Dad and I in one car and her sister and friend in another) and whilst driving around back alleys and business estates using the maps location we came across his very distinctive car parked up.
DD wasn’t with him although he did verbally abuse us and threaten us etc
we found her and bought her home but she left in the early hours.

she is now saying she won’t tell us where she is or come home until we apologise to him face to face for “embarrassing him” and “intimidating him” she loves him and will move in with him if we don’t do as she says.

thank you if you have got this far, I know it’s long but I really need to know what I should do.

part of me wants to pass his details somewhere in case he hurts her, I have this feeling of dread. I’m currently blocked on her phone but I don’t know if she knows that, ie he has blocked me? and the last time before the above happened he told her to choose between him and us which she told her sister. He then sent her sister pics of DD at his and when she called he answered her phone, laughed and hung up. I’ve talked to DD about this and she said he told her, he did it to show us she was safe because he knew we didn’t know where she was at that time.

or am I over reacting and should I let DD make her own choices whilst knowing she can always come home?

OP posts:
WhatDoWeDo2023 · 12/11/2022 21:15

Rega26 · 12/11/2022 21:07

First of all Happy Birthday! I'm glad you still managed to enjoy your day.

My daughter is vile to all of us (parents and 3 siblings) but mostly it's directed at me if I say anything unsupportive of their relationship. She tells me to fuck off and only gets in touch when she wants something.

Before him she was so outgoing and confident but he has squashed that and she is now on antidepressants because of her situation.

I blame myself because I'm in an unhappy marriage where I am a doormat and I feel like I have set a very poor example to her. That is about to change though as we are separating.

It was so much easier when they were little and we could protect them wasn't it?

,No, no, no please don’t blame yourself

it really isn’t us or our choices it’s actually nothing to do with us and what we have shown them.
you know that, just look at your other DC

having a child with autism has changed me. I’ve always parented her sisters but felt I was managing DD which was hard at the time but oh so much easier in the here and now. I’m out of my depth but, I do know this is him mainly and her secondly
it’s not us as a family. This isn’t us

Rega26 · 12/11/2022 21:18

Thanks, that's good to hear. One of my other DDs has just been diagnosed with autism and another I am certain is on the spectrum. I know exactly what you mean about managing them!

WhatDoWeDo2023 · 12/11/2022 21:27

Managing them is a real thing whilst they are little isn’t it!

I don’t have many options left now. She is blocking me out and directing her anger at me instead of him because she knows I’m a safe bet
so hard

thank you for the birthday message, just another year Smile

Rega26 · 12/11/2022 21:30

I'm sure she'll reach out soon enough. She know you love her and want the best for her 💐

WhatDoWeDo2023 · 12/11/2022 21:33

Rega26 · 12/11/2022 21:30

I'm sure she'll reach out soon enough. She know you love her and want the best for her 💐

Thank you and good luck to you
if you ever need to talk just PM or pop back here

unfortunately, I fear I will be back soon

Rega26 · 12/11/2022 21:35

Thank you. I hope we're both back with more positive news soon 🤞

thisisasurvivor · 12/11/2022 21:36

I'm so sorry

It's hell

And what more can you do

Let her know you love her and will have her bed ready for when she is able to make it back

WhatDoWeDo2023 · 12/11/2022 22:48

thisisasurvivor · 12/11/2022 21:36

I'm so sorry

It's hell

And what more can you do

Let her know you love her and will have her bed ready for when she is able to make it back

Yes to that comfy double bed
it will always be fresh and ready for her.
but, just her and never him

thats our crossroad - if others need to relate
I suppose this is now my new stage in life

GottaBeStrong · 13/11/2022 01:21

Try and keep the channels of communication open. Hopefully she will come back to you eventually.

My mother fell out with my abusive partner (now ex) and wouldn't 'fake reconcile' with him despite my pleading. It isolated me and our child even further as we had no communication or respite away from him. It was horrendous. I was very unsafe during that time. The abuse was getting worse and I felt completely abandoned. We could have been killed and they wouldn't have known.

Just over a year later I managed to flee. At first I didn't go to the family home but after a while I took my child there and we've been here for months while we wait to be rehoused. I still haven't told my mother how she abandoned me. I don't think I ever will.

No matter how hurtful it is, remember that in your daughter's case it is her addiction speaking when she is behavijg erratically and saying vile things. The BF has used those drugs to get her dependent on him and to control her whole life. There is likely also a strong trauma bond now. You may find it helpful to read about that.

WhatDoWeDo2023 · 13/11/2022 03:59

Wow, thank you
I'm awake, she came home and vomited in her room

WhatDoWeDo2023 · 13/11/2022 04:02

I’m staying awake to check on her
she just told me to piss off so at least we know she is ok tonight

Rega26 · 13/11/2022 07:04

Glad to hear she's back under your roof at least.

fdkc · 13/11/2022 08:23

I'm in a similar situation with my 18 year old DD and it's hell. All I can now is leave her be and hope for the best.

WhatDoWeDo2023 · 13/11/2022 14:13

fdkc · 13/11/2022 08:23

I'm in a similar situation with my 18 year old DD and it's hell. All I can now is leave her be and hope for the best.

I’m sorry you are on this road too.

he has smashed her car up, driven into the side of it and broke her wing mirrors off with his hands

she won’t let me up date the police, she says she is scared of him and I don’t know what to do

WhatDoWeDo2022 · 13/11/2022 16:53

The police are on their way. He is sending threatening messages and said he has naked pictures of her to post on sm
she hasn’t sent him any, he said he took them of her when she was sleeping

she thankfully let me phone the police. I think we need a restraining order but I don’t know how that works?

OP posts:
thisisasurvivor · 13/11/2022 17:01

Yes to restraining order

Lucky girl to have you !!!!

There is a association who do them v v quickly
Let me check for you xxxxxx

triballeader · 13/11/2022 18:18

Quick point: she has a diaognosis of autism and could be a drug user. Both have the potential to make her an adult with vulnerabilities. It MIGHT be worth contacting Social Services Adult Services for both support and advice.

WhatDoWeDo2023 · 13/11/2022 20:02

triballeader · 13/11/2022 18:18

Quick point: she has a diaognosis of autism and could be a drug user. Both have the potential to make her an adult with vulnerabilities. It MIGHT be worth contacting Social Services Adult Services for both support and advice.

Thank you

i don’t know what to do but, she is home and we are talking and once the police are updated we can take their advice

ApexLegend · 14/11/2022 06:47

I have no advice OP but I wanted to send my support and tell you you’re doing an amazing job. Massive virtual hugs coming your way.

sleephelp2022 · 14/11/2022 07:10

Oh OP. This sounds awful.

He posts naked photos of her on SM and he does to prison! Whether she sent them or not, still illegal.

I hope you get all this sorted and if it is a restraining order then she also doesn't contact him during this time either.

GottaBeStrong · 14/11/2022 10:23

She can take out a non molestation order which is like a restraining order (a restraining order is only issued at the end of a criminal court case), whereas a non molestation order can be issued by itself. Call NCDV and speak to them about it. They will issue one for free and without notice (meaning an emergency type one where it's issued without him being called to court). www.ncdv.org.uk/

Have you spoken to Women's Aid? They can help you and your daughter. She needs a support worker or IDVA. The police can make a referral to your local DV service when you speak to them. They should assess her risk using something called DASH and give her a score. Depending on that, other agencies may gey involved anyway.

I second the idea of referring to Adult Social Care. I'm disabled and classed as vulnerable as a result. It helps with getting extra support.

Maybe a referral to drug and alcohol services would help too. She needs support with her addiction. You need support too - AdFam were a great support to me when trying to cope with my ex's addiction, their forum is excellent. Is her GP aware of what is going on?

All this intervention helps to create a paper trail should she ever need to go to court.

My ex also used naked photos and videos that he had taken without my consent to try to humiliate me (he sent them to a mutual male friend of ours). It is an offence. The police can charge him... it is considered revenge port. I think the charge they suggested for me ex was disclosing of intimate images.

GottaBeStrong · 14/11/2022 10:28

P.S. gently encourage her to block him on her phone on social media/WhatsApp/phone calls/email etc or get her a new number. This will all be extremely difficult for her as she is trauma bonded with him and reliant on him due to her addiction. In that respect, speaking to her doctor might help as they should be able to give her some medical support to help her if she wants to stop using. The problem is, if she doesn't get any support and tries to quit, she will feel strong compulsion to go back in order to get rid of the craving for the high. Thus the cycle will keep repeating itself.

thisisasurvivor · 14/11/2022 10:35

GottaBeStrong · 14/11/2022 10:28

P.S. gently encourage her to block him on her phone on social media/WhatsApp/phone calls/email etc or get her a new number. This will all be extremely difficult for her as she is trauma bonded with him and reliant on him due to her addiction. In that respect, speaking to her doctor might help as they should be able to give her some medical support to help her if she wants to stop using. The problem is, if she doesn't get any support and tries to quit, she will feel strong compulsion to go back in order to get rid of the craving for the high. Thus the cycle will keep repeating itself.

100 per cent.

And she is so so lucky to have you and she has confided in you

Praying for you both

Been there it's absolutely hellish

Always4Brenner · 14/11/2022 14:25

Hugs for both of you, hope you can survive this.and be rid of this horror from both your lives.

WhatDoWeDo2023 · 14/11/2022 15:28

@GottaBeStrong that is such a helpful post, I’ve noted it all down to speak to the police.

and thank you all for the support. I’m really out of my depth right now

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