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Massive argument still reeling

67 replies

Mumnavigation · 24/08/2022 21:39

Long one here and I’m not sure what I’m even asking at this point but I just need to put my feelings somewhere and I don’t want to involve family and friends as it’s so sensitive.

had a massive blow up argument with my husband. Luckily kids were out for the day with grandparents.

my husband said some super hurtful things it stings badly. Back storey it I have anxiety and atm it’s at its highest for a long time. My confidence and self esteem is rock bottom and I feel pretty useless. I’ve been proactive and reached out and now I’m on a waiting list for cbt to combat the anxiety.

The argument started about jobs around the house as usual but then turned personal like really really personal.

my husband started saying things about our sex life or lack of. Now I know we don’t often atm it’s been for a few months if honest it’s only a few times a month atm but I’m struggling to see myself in that way and we’d spoke about that and he seemed to be super supportive. But today he threw it in my face.

he told me he’d rather F a corpse than me as it’d have more life. That I’m shit at everything I do in bed even when I do do it. He even made a reference to my wonky breast. ( something I’ve always said 1 is slightly less pert than the other hes always told me it isn’t and I’m being too picky on myself ) but today he made a reference to that and it hurt pretty bad.
said he’d probably he happier with someone else as he’d actually be getting it. That I never initiate it and that makes me lazy. And that I should want it and I should be more sexy. And a whole lot more ….

we’ve been together 15 years always been active sexually except right now and when my son was born and was in hospital for the first 6 months of life. He did commet at that time that it was “ my duty “ to preform as a wife. Which he quickly retracted as I think he realised how awful he sounded. But it’s always stuck with me.

Let me mention he had to take viagra at the beginning of the year as he started medication that effected his ability which has now resolved but then he would tell me I’m sexy and attractive and he can’t get enough of me when I beat myself up about it.

He told me today that 4 times a week should be a minimum that normal women want it that amount or more. But I know for a fact my friends don’t!! Which I threw a comment to him about maybe a would if he didn’t have a limp dick ( not proud of myself but I’d had enough at that point )

im struggling to not hate myself right now. I feel dirty and a fool. We had sex this morning a good few hours before all this so it just really caught me off guard! As he at the time said he enjoyed it and all the usual stuff / faces etc but I’m I really that pathetic and stupid I just don’t know.

the argument got bad I admit I was wrong he was stood in front of me and when he was saying about my breasts I pushed him away he then pushed my back and there was a too and Fri of that before I broke down crying to which he said in a mocking tone oh are you going to have a panic attack ? Are you going to get your palpitations?? Yeah?? Having a panic are we??

I walked away. And it hurts bad. Since that point he’s acted normal with me and said what he said to hurt me. He was lashing out. Said he does want it more and normal women do want it. Hasn’t said sorry for it all tho.

I hurt so bad. And I just don’t know what I’m supposed to do going forward. The thought of being intimate ever with him makes my skin crawl now.

what do I do now??

OP posts:
fghj149 · 24/08/2022 22:15

He can’t just treat you like that! Moaning about sex is bad enough but to belittle you to that extent, and in such an aggressive way, is totally unacceptable. Please tell him to get lost. PP right life is far too short to spend it with someone like him. Sending lots of strength your way ❤️

HangingOver · 24/08/2022 22:17

Oh you poor thing OP. Sending you a gentle hug. What a bastard.

Reluctantadult · 24/08/2022 22:17

I couldn't stay with him.

PeacefulPottering · 24/08/2022 22:24

So sorry you had to listen to such vile things. And from someone who is supposed to be your friend,love, support. I would never want to be intimate again, I just couldn't. It's the end and I hope you can realise most women don't live like this.

Creepymanonagoatfarm · 24/08/2022 22:27

I have no medical or psychiatric training but I diagnose a huge improvement in your mental health if you get that bastard out of your life op.

HailAdrian · 24/08/2022 22:31

Let him go find a 'normal' woman then, he'll soon get a surprise when no one wants to touch him.

lisavanderpumpscloset · 24/08/2022 22:32

Jesus Christ. What do you think you do? You LTB.

StopStartStop · 24/08/2022 22:32

I threw a comment to him about maybe a would if he didn’t have a limp dick ( not proud of myself but I’d had enough at that point )

I'm proud of you! Well done! You were under attack and you hit him with the truth! Oh, I'm so proud of you.

He's abusive. That tirade was abuse. He's undermining you, he's lambasting you, and he's lying. 'Other women' want more sex? He knows them, does he? How many of them want sex with him? Is there a queue? Thought not.

Well, it's awful, it's not your choice, it will be a hell of a shock but... there's no coming back from this. Get angry, get a solicitor. The sooner you start on your new life, the sooner the pain will ease.

Creepymanonagoatfarm · 24/08/2022 22:38

Fast track the end op. Tell him he is obviously so correct. He had better leave right now. Another night with you is more than he should be expected to suffer...
Offer to help him pack.

Just get him the fuck out..
Ring police if necessary..

Outlyingtrout · 24/08/2022 22:39

You can have all the CBT in the world but you will never rid yourself of anxiety and depression whilst you remain in an abusive relationship with someone who deliberately destroys your self esteem.

If you truly want to be well and to enjoy your life with your children, you need to leave him. What he has said is unforgivable.

GreyCarpet · 24/08/2022 22:48

I threw a comment to him about maybe a would if he didn’t have a limp dick ( not proud of myself but I’d had enough at that point )

I'm also proud of you! 👏 👏 👏

What a pathetic man.

Bestcatmum · 24/08/2022 22:49

LTB abusive horrible bastard.

CockSpadget · 24/08/2022 22:52

Well he's well and truly shown you who he really is hasn't he. Yes, hurtful things are often said in arguments, but he went above and beyond. He absolutely wanted to hurt you to your core and ruin any ounce of self esteem you have left with his words today, and in my opinion that is completely unforgivable, especially with him knowing your mental health is not good right now anyway.
Have my first LTB. Please reach out to your friends op, don't go through this alone.

SaltedCaramelIcedLatte · 24/08/2022 23:01

Yuk, he sounds awful how have you put up with him for 15 years?

You deserve so much better and I am sorry you are going through this! I wouldn't be able to forgive my partner if he said those things to me and I certainly wouldn't be able to have sex with him ever again!

Hope you are okay!

FetchezLaVache · 24/08/2022 23:01

You can have all the CBT in the world but you will never rid yourself of anxiety and depression whilst you remain in an abusive relationship with someone who deliberately destroys your self esteem

^^This.

I don't think you can come back from this, OP. The things he said were calculated to hurt you as much as possible. I agree that you will probably find your anxiety improves immeasurably if you get rid of this awful, abusive man.

Facecream · 24/08/2022 23:04

What a horrible disgusting man. You had an argument about normal
house things and he escalated it into nasty, cruel, gut wrenching cruelty. And then says he was lashing out because he wants more sex etc.
If be showing him the nearest cemetery because there’s no way he’d make a comment about preferring a corpse without me giving him sn opportunity - show him the door and the cemetery and let him crack on. Vile prick

Janesdufflecoat · 24/08/2022 23:07

This is just awful! Pleas don't sweep this under the carpet!

What's your financial situation, do you work?

CantGetDecentNickname · 24/08/2022 23:14

OctopusBreath · 24/08/2022 21:44

He is an absolute bastard and you probably don't want to fuck him because women aren't generally sexually attracted to selfish, whining, abusive arseholes.

I agree with this and maybe you should say it to him. Try to keep calm when you do next speak to him and you could say that you think he is probably triggering your anxiety by being abusive and destroying your self esteem and you'd like him to move out for a few days as you need some space.

You may find you feel better when he is not around.

Good luck

mathanxiety · 24/08/2022 23:16

Wow.

You need to hire a solicitor and start divorce proceedings.

Don't shilly shally. Your marriage is over.

A man who speaks like he did to his wife has already made up his mind that his relationship is over and if he seriously thinks there's any hope of sex with her again he's delusional.

There was absolute contempt there. Get your ducks in a row. He has killed the marriage.

mathanxiety · 24/08/2022 23:17

I agree with all the posters saying your mental health will very likely improve when you get this abusive bastard out of your life.

feistyoneyouare · 24/08/2022 23:35

Agree with pps saying he's been vile and abusive. You deserve better, OP.

BoviTraci · 24/08/2022 23:38

Referring to your wonky boob was really low . He got some making up to do

LadyLolaRuben · 24/08/2022 23:39

Pinkbonbon · 24/08/2022 22:04

Life is too short to spend another second with this bullying wanker op.

Time to call it a day..
It wasnt a total waste, you got some nice kids out of it. But now its time to go. Before they learn that they too should put up with shitty men like your husband as partners.

Get him gone. For your sake and for your kids.
Solicitors tomorrow!

This.
Come on Op. Get your ducks in a row. You can do it. What's the alternative? For the second time ever for me LTB

Mumnavigation · 24/08/2022 23:56

Thanks everyone. Hearing you say it makes me feel less crazy or like there maybe isn’t something wrong with me.
I’m just hurting so much. He’s gone to bed asked me if I was coming up….. I don’t understand how he can act like none of what was said was said??

I don’t think I can ever trust him again with myself or my feelings. As for ever being vulnerable or intimate around him in any way I don’t think I can.

if this was my friend I would be telling her the same that it’s time to go. But I honestly just don’t know where to begin and just don’t feel strong enough to go it alone. I know I’d find a way but my panic attacks tend to come on randomly and the thought of being completely by self and trying to tackle that get stronger and support the kids 100% by myself feels like a mountain I can’t climb. Me a year ago would have smiled and waved as I threw his bags out but I honestly feel like a broken version of myself. I don’t even know how I got to this point.

financially I’d be alone. I work full time Mon- Fri but it’s only a low wage he’s the main bread winner as I put my career on hold when we had kids. My mum also relies heavily on my for suppprt and help and finances I’m an only child so it’s down to me. My 2 best friends live over 3 hours away. I don’t have anyone close by who id be able to turn to.
He has no close family and again his friends live hours away so there’s no where to kick him out to.

I know in my heart there’s no coming back and the girl somewhere deep deep down inside me is screaming but like I said I feel totally broken and powerless on this one.

I know it’s over in my heart but I have no idea where to start and even if I can.

OP posts:
Catlover1970 · 24/08/2022 23:59

It’s over

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