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Phone thrown on motorway

57 replies

Hparker21 · 21/08/2022 17:19

My DP and I were driving from one city to another today with our baby in the back. He doesn’t drive so I was driving. He was supposed to be navigating but didn’t tell me when to turn so I missed the exit. Id specifically asked him to use my google maps because he kept screwing up directions on his Apple Maps but he’d turned the volume down so it didn’t speak. He said ‘there’s a roundabout coming up in 5 minutes or so’ but then it was apparently a turn off to the left almost immediately which I missed. He said something angry to which I responded ‘but you said it was a roundabout’ and pulled into a lay by. He lost his temper and yelled at me then threw my phone at the floor. It’s smashed now.

I got us back on the right road and drove on, shaking and trying not to cry. About ten miles on he said ‘I’m sorry I lost my temper’ Were at our hotel now and I basically left him with the baby and bolted.

We’ve both got a temper and he’s raised his voice to me before but never anything like this. I am distraught and don’t know what to do. We’ve got two days here in a city I’ve always wanted to visit before we go home and I don’t even want to be in the same room as him.

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Nekomata · 21/08/2022 19:42

I'm glad he's apologised and agreed to get help. It's not ok that he shouts at you and says nasty things. It's not ok that he threw your phone. Be careful, and the next time he does anything like this, you need to leave because it will escalate.

Nekomata · 21/08/2022 19:47

Also, I really don't think anyone was implying that he was trying to isolate her by breaking her phone, but there was a line in the TV show Maid "Before They Bite, They Bark. Before They Hit You, They Hit Near You". He wasn't directly violent towards her, but he was violent towards her belongings. That's a huge red flag and very worrying.

DelphiniumBlue · 21/08/2022 19:54

I'd believe he's sorry when he replaces your phone or gets it fixed. And lends you his in the meantime.
It's quite something when it's the passenger who gets so stressed out, not the driver, who is actually doing the stressful job.

PineForestsAndSunshine · 21/08/2022 20:25

Hparker21 · 21/08/2022 18:54

No, not deliberately. But he hurled it at the floor so that might well have happened. I was pulling into a layby on a smart motorway so wasn’t parked.

We are indeed both tired. But had the tables been turned there’s no circumstance in which I could see myself throwing his phone in a fit of temper. When I say we both have a temper, we both have strong opinions and disagree sometimes-but sometimes he shouts and can say really nasty things. I don’t shout and will go silent rather than say something I might regret.

Oh my God, you mean you pulled into one of the SOS refuges? Definitely not safely parked then! Was he shouting at you to pull over?

That does put a rather different spin on it to be honest. He compromised your safety and your baby's safety.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 21/08/2022 23:15

Why did he insist on giving you shit directions himself instead of just letting Google maps talk to you? It does sound like he's (possibly not deliberately) created the situation that then angered him such that he broke your phone.

IodineQueen · 22/08/2022 00:02

Why did you stop in an emergency refuge area? They are only supposed to be used in emergencies. If the argument between you was so bad that it qualified as an emergency then you shouldn’t be travelling together as you’re not only endangering yourselves but other people too.

ParsleyPesto · 22/08/2022 01:47

IodineQueen · 22/08/2022 00:02

Why did you stop in an emergency refuge area? They are only supposed to be used in emergencies. If the argument between you was so bad that it qualified as an emergency then you shouldn’t be travelling together as you’re not only endangering yourselves but other people too.

What a stupid post. As if she could possibly have known before they set off what would happen. And clearly she was trying to stay safe. Don’t be such a sanctimonious prat.

Aquamarine1029 · 22/08/2022 01:52

Get your baby and drive home. Your partner, (should be ex-partner), can find for himself.

Richielogic · 22/08/2022 04:15

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Gottoomuchgoingon · 22/08/2022 04:30

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Jesus Christ

ScotInExile · 22/08/2022 04:52

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No Richie, you are not the most placid of guys if this is how you deal with conflict. This is abuse and I suggest you get therapy to deal with your incontrollable anger.

Starseeking · 22/08/2022 05:17

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No placid person is smashing up phones twice. Especially not their DD's.

DoItAfraid · 22/08/2022 05:36

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@Richielogic your behaviour towards your daughter is abusive.

TabithaTittlemouse · 22/08/2022 06:14

@Richielogic you are an abusive arsehole.

ABrotherWhoLooksLikeHellMugYou · 22/08/2022 06:24

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When you say "later saw sense" do you actually mean she bowed to your will and did everything you wanted her to do in order to keep herself and her other possessions safe because she was scared of what you might do otherwise?

Because generally that's how women respond when men, bigger, stronger, more aggressive than us, usually with power over out wellbeing in other ways too, that's how we respond when they lose their shit and smash our stuff or threaten us.

Placid my arse. What a horrific human being you are.

ParsleyPesto · 22/08/2022 06:28

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God, your poor daughter. You are violent and abusive.

There are no circumstances in which smashing your child’s phone is the right thing to do, it speaks to your inadequacies as a parent and as a human being. Such a tough guy, huh.

And no it isn’t a big leap to say that smashing a phone indicates a violent disposition. You are a violent person and you can be arrested for what you did. Your sense of ownership over your daughter is disturbing.

Sswhinesthebest · 22/08/2022 06:30

PineForestsAndSunshine · 21/08/2022 18:32

It really is impossible to tell whether this is a violent and controlling man starting to show his true colours, or an emotional screaming match between two over-tired and stressed parents that ended up with one person doing something incredibly stupid which they regretted and apologised.

Has anything like this ever happened before?

I do think there is some catastrophising going on. As a PP said, you were safely parked.

I think the biggest worry is that you say "we've both got a temper". Is that something you think he would be prepared to work on with you?

This.

As a one off, it’s not necessarily a big issue. If it becomes a pattern, then that’s a different matter.

KangarooKenny · 22/08/2022 07:11

If it happens again you need to end it. I’d be wary of marriage at this point.

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This is the biggest bait ever - no way would such a man actually exist

Anniegetyourgun · 22/08/2022 07:41

A placid man may have taken his daughter's phone away, but smashed it? Twice? Get therapy, man. That's way out of control and it's not teaching her what you think it is.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 22/08/2022 08:30

The way some people either delude themselves or attempt to delude others is almost beyond belief.

Placid? You know that a common trait of abusers is that they don't see themselves as such right? I expect your poor daughter now toes the line, right, because she is afraid of what you might do. You have shown spiteful violence on two occasions. She now knows she is not 100% safe with you (whether she or you admits it or not) and will adjust her behaviour accordingly. And you are setting her up to think such behaviour is normal and therefore putting her at high risk of entering into an abusive relationship when she is older.
Slow hand clap - what crappy parenting. And you are apparently congratulating yourself on it. It nearly beggars belief (but sadly doesn't because - as I said before all abusers are strangely similar in their core attitudes)

IodineQueen · 22/08/2022 08:51

ParsleyPesto · 22/08/2022 01:47

What a stupid post. As if she could possibly have known before they set off what would happen. And clearly she was trying to stay safe. Don’t be such a sanctimonious prat.

As if she could have possibly known what? That he’d say something angry? Re read the OP:

He said ‘there’s a roundabout coming up in 5 minutes or so’ but then it was apparently a turn off to the left almost immediately which I missed. He said something angry to which I responded ‘but you said it was a roundabout’ and pulled into a lay by. He lost his temper and yelled at me then threw my phone at the floor. It’s smashed now.

IodineQueen · 22/08/2022 09:03

Posted too soon. My point is that at the point OP pulled into the emergency area (which she referred to as a lay-by) there wasn’t an emergency. It’s a dangerous thing to do on a motorway and to be honest I think this thread is made up.

diddl · 22/08/2022 09:11

Hindsight is of course wonderful but he's a shit navigator so don't ask him again.

I suppose people don't plan ahead very often now but rely on sat nav "on the day"?

Sounds as if anger management would be good for both of you.

He was obviously wrong to yell when he gave wrong directions.

NippyWoowoo · 22/08/2022 09:16

Not the point of the post, but why did he have to even tell you what the phone said? Why don't you have a phone holder for the ac vent that you just clip your phone in so that you can see it yourself? How do you navigate if you're on your own?

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