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Staying with in-laws doing my head in

40 replies

FlySwimmer · 16/08/2022 15:40

Don’t really know what I want from this thread - maybe a bit of handholding, a bit of a rant (and probably for someone to give my head a wobble).

We’re staying with my in-laws for 2 weeks at their second home. They live abroad, we live in the U.K. and we are very lucky to be able to come and stay with them.

But my god they do my head in sometimes. As they’ve got older they’ve become so fixed in their ways. FIL full-on hovers over you, constantly asks questions, or just watches you, but always with an air of judgement. DH & I were washing up the dishes from lunch, FIL just stood there watching us - like he was waiting for us to mess up somehow? Everything has to done according to his routine, such as mealtimes, but he also makes pass-ag comments if you want to do something differently. This is partly a holiday for us, so I want to sleep in, but I can hear him every morning asking why we’re still in bed, then he’ll ask you as soon as you appear if you didn’t sleep well since it’s “so late”. MIL is a full-on martyr: she’s not feeling too well at the moment but insists that every meal be cooked by her. Suggestions that DH & I cook, or we go out, or get a takeaway, are immediately brushed away. Then she complains she’s tired! The cooking is her form of control: she watches what you eat and makes comments if you go for a snack outside of mealtimes, or that X or Y are “not suitable” for lunch or dinner, or that she’ll just have a salad while we have a pizza, then do these dramatic sighs while we’re all tucking in. She constantly tells my DH he’s too fat, and probably thinks the same of me but wouldn’t dare say it.

Above all I think it’s just the constant expectation for interaction, engagement, whatever you want to call it. They will happily sit for the whole afternoon talking about absolutely nothing, for days on end. Every time I appear there’s a barrage of questions. Since we’re here for a chunk of time I brought work stuff to do WFH some days, but it’s impossible to work in peace as there’s always someone about who wants to ask you something. I’m quite introverted and like time by myself. There’s also a bit of a language barrier: I speak the language but not hugely well, so I find long conversations tiring. But then DH gets annoyed that I’m antisocial, that I’m too quiet, not chatty enough. I do engage (yesterday was a holiday & I spent the whole day helping with the big family lunch, hours at the table, then all watching a film together in the evening). But after a few days they drive me mad and I want to get away, but can’t. And we have 4 days of actual ‘holiday’ away with them next week, staying at a hotel, still to go.

I know the obvious answer is to go for less time, but DH won’t entertain that. His response when I suggested a shorter stint is that it’s not enough time. But time for what?! Just sitting around here, having the same conversations in circles over and over? Next year I’m putting my foot down and he can go alone, and I’ll either sit it out entirely or join him later…

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Creepymanonagoatfarm · 16/08/2022 15:44

Suggest outings locally.. If they refuse just go anyway! Stuck indoors you may as well have started home!!
Make your holiday. Or you are being a martyr like mil!

mixedupmother · 16/08/2022 15:49

This sounds like more a family visit to be endured than a holiday and I doubt it would ever be better unless the ILs weren't there. You say it's their second home, so do you visit when they are at their main home? My exDH was from abroad and although his family home was in a place with nice weather, I quickly realised that any visits would never be a holiday for me! If this is always to be the arrangement I would send your DH there on his own. It's a tricky one when he expects you to join in.

mixedupmother · 16/08/2022 15:56

Also, what sort of place is it? Is it somewhere with plenty of things to do and the option for you to get out and about? I agree with Creepy unless it's the sort of place where you are stuck with them for geographical or cultural reasons.

balzamico · 16/08/2022 15:59

Surely your need to wfh is the perfect get out, you just need to be firm with dh and his parents about when you're going to do it and that you shouldn't be disturbed.

AlisonDonut · 16/08/2022 16:05

'Hi, I've got work to do so if I can't do it here I'm going to have to return home to do it'.

VintageVest · 16/08/2022 16:05

Yes I agree, go out. With the food, just inform them you are cooking something you fancy and ask of they would like some too.

FlySwimmer · 16/08/2022 16:06

@Creepymanonagoatfarm The ILs would often want to join us on outings, which can be fine, or can be FIL complaining about the price of things (parking is a particular favourite gripe), and MIL completely panicking about how busy places are (she has a mortal fear of Covid, still wears a mask outdoors anywhere there are other people). So not always a perfect solution! When we do go out, DH usually wants to be back early as MIL will expect us for dinner…

@mixedupmother we do visit them at their main home, where we are now is only in the summer. At their main home it’s almost worse, extremely rigid timings for meals etc (we’re expected to tell MIL the night before when we’ll be down for breakfast. My suggestion that we take care of ourselves was met with a kind of hurt bewilderment). I am increasingly thinking that these visits are not holidays, yes. The problem is DH still equates coming here with ‘holidays’ and so wouldn’t be supportive of my not coming I don’t think. We did do 10 days just the two of us, in a different country.

It’s very rural so the only thing to do immediately is go for walks, which realistically is only possible at certain times because of heat. As I replied above, we do try & get out but are subject to restrictions like being back for mealtimes, or ILs tag along.

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Creepymanonagoatfarm · 16/08/2022 16:17

Maybe become vegan and insist her being 'put out' catering for you is unfair.
Restaurant every night - which likely fil won't want to try.
Get yourselves to the food place of your choice!

LastWordsOfALiar · 16/08/2022 16:18

I think you're being a bit unfair. You may not be enjoying it but your husband is and it's his family reunion time. So suck it up and put a face on. They sound well meaning and typical of older people in my experience. Annoying, yes, but not purposefully unkind.

Then arrange a proper holiday, just he two of you, later in the year.

FlySwimmer · 16/08/2022 16:18

@balzamico & @AlisonDonut I try, and indeed I’ve moved to a quiet part of the house. DH thinks I’m being antisocial, removing myself from everyone. Even though I told him before coming that I planned to WFH some days we’re here.

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Creepymanonagoatfarm · 16/08/2022 16:19

Ils refused to cater for me when they realised I was vegetarian .. In fact fil threw a frying pan at me when I refused a fried egg he had just cooked bacon in.

Meet ups were at a cafe for a long time.

BarrelOfOtters2 · 16/08/2022 16:21

I think you need to talk to DH and agree that you'll go for a shorter time, blame work if need be - either to him or just to the in laws.

Or make it clear that there's a couple of activities that wouldn't suit them that you want to do.

OTOH if they don't see their son much, I think you just have to suck it up a little bit but try and set a new thing where you go off an do your own thing and DH backs you up that you won't be back in time for dinner or whatever.

grey12 · 16/08/2022 16:29

Say you and your partner ARE going out for dinner that night and would like them to join you 🤷🏻‍♀️ don't matter whether they come or not

You can't do much more. Just have to deal with it. Well, with most of it... don't let your inlaws to make weird comments on your body ever, that would be crossing the line

ValerieDoonican · 16/08/2022 16:37

Your DH doesn't sound as though he's listening to you! Make it clear that unless you can get peace from them all at least some of the time, then you won't come another time. If he is not prepared to defend your right to slip off for a bit of quiet time with your laptop, its him who's the problem really

DangerouslyBored · 16/08/2022 16:37

You have my every sympathy, I have v similar in laws / situation. It’s hard. Those saying ‘suck it up’, isn’t your annual leave precious to you, don’t you feel that you have a right to enjoy your holiday as well as your DH? Surely no one is that much of a martyr that they are willing to give up
two weeks of holiday so that their DH can enjoy himself while you have a shit and stressful time. Get real.

Wishihadanalgorithm · 16/08/2022 16:38

In your shoes I would develop a strategic migraine so you can have a couple of days in your room locked away from them. (Maybe shop beforehand for some magazines and snacks to keep you occupied?)

Count down the days and just don’t go again next year.

I would deeply resent giving up my holiday allowance for this type of nonsense.

catandcoffee · 16/08/2022 16:38

God you must love your other half very very much.
Just reading this has raised my blood pressure.

Entwifery · 16/08/2022 16:39

That sounds like an introvert's hell on earth. I would absolutely not be going for each visit, DH can attend by himself and he'd just have to get over it. My DH's family is tiring as well (they argue constantly and talk AT you rather than to you) and I've sat out the past few times he visited - I was upfront with him and told him it's simply too draining for me and he'll have to go on his own. I'll go half of the time from now on. I recommend you do the same. Especially when you are taking your precious holiday time off work!

ValerieDoonican · 16/08/2022 16:43

Also, maybe he wants you there in order to share the load.

I have had to make it very clear to my dh that he is first in line of fire for MiL's endless repeated anecdotes and gripes (I love her really but. .). and him scrolling through his phone while I politely nod along for hours on end is no longer an option. His Mum, he's the host, he listens, I get on with some housework or whatever. That way I find it a lot easier to be nice and genuinely engage with her - but just in short bursts.

AlisonDonut · 16/08/2022 16:43

FlySwimmer · 16/08/2022 16:18

@balzamico & @AlisonDonut I try, and indeed I’ve moved to a quiet part of the house. DH thinks I’m being antisocial, removing myself from everyone. Even though I told him before coming that I planned to WFH some days we’re here.

I'd be looking at travel back home, not just another part of the house.

Aquamarine1029 · 16/08/2022 16:48

Your husband is shockingly selfish. They may be his parents, but this is far too much to expect you to suck up for two weeks. I'd be telling him this two week imprisonment isn't happening again. If he wants to go, he can jog right along.

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/08/2022 16:51

OK so we live hundreds of miles from all the parents. My tips:

It's not a holiday, stop pretending it is!
Book him to go for as long as he Rabat's and you 'have to get back for work' so only go for half the time.
Set boundaries and just style out the fallout. Just don't care if they complain. Breezy and light.
Come down like a ton of bricks on DH. He doesn't get to judge you, you're there and joining in. I'd be livid.
But also be kind. It's hard to live away from family.

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/08/2022 16:52

Rabat's?!?!

Wants.

mixedupmother · 16/08/2022 16:53

You need to come to an agreement with your DH as your ILs won't change. It's so tricky not to cause offence but you deserve to spend your annual leave in the way that you want. Could you stay somewhere else in his home country where you would be more relaxed and then see less of them? If you already see them at their first home they obviously get to see their son at other times of the year.

FlySwimmer · 16/08/2022 16:54

@Creepymanonagoatfarm goodness me! I don’t blame you meeting elsewhere…

@Wishihadanalgorithm Haha I already pack a strategic supply of snacks; I learned the hard way after my first trip. My MIL absolutely does not do snacks (and judges hard) so now I just pack some that I keep in my room. And I’m not even a massive snacker! It’s probably more the principle of it.

@Entwifery Oh god, the arguments, the loudness, and the interrupting. Drives me crackers. Indoor voices please!

@ValerieDoonican very possibly. When they come to visit us I have stayed away “for work” for a night or two. He has also complained that they are hard work. But then insists that 2 weeks is the minimum for visiting. And ends up moaning about them. But when I remind him of this he brushes it off. It’s like he’s afraid of offending them. That, and I think he feels guilty that we he doesn’t see them enough. But for some reason I pretty much always have to be there with him, it’s like they’ll think less of us if I wasn’t to come.

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