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Staying with in-laws doing my head in

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FlySwimmer · 16/08/2022 15:40

Don’t really know what I want from this thread - maybe a bit of handholding, a bit of a rant (and probably for someone to give my head a wobble).

We’re staying with my in-laws for 2 weeks at their second home. They live abroad, we live in the U.K. and we are very lucky to be able to come and stay with them.

But my god they do my head in sometimes. As they’ve got older they’ve become so fixed in their ways. FIL full-on hovers over you, constantly asks questions, or just watches you, but always with an air of judgement. DH & I were washing up the dishes from lunch, FIL just stood there watching us - like he was waiting for us to mess up somehow? Everything has to done according to his routine, such as mealtimes, but he also makes pass-ag comments if you want to do something differently. This is partly a holiday for us, so I want to sleep in, but I can hear him every morning asking why we’re still in bed, then he’ll ask you as soon as you appear if you didn’t sleep well since it’s “so late”. MIL is a full-on martyr: she’s not feeling too well at the moment but insists that every meal be cooked by her. Suggestions that DH & I cook, or we go out, or get a takeaway, are immediately brushed away. Then she complains she’s tired! The cooking is her form of control: she watches what you eat and makes comments if you go for a snack outside of mealtimes, or that X or Y are “not suitable” for lunch or dinner, or that she’ll just have a salad while we have a pizza, then do these dramatic sighs while we’re all tucking in. She constantly tells my DH he’s too fat, and probably thinks the same of me but wouldn’t dare say it.

Above all I think it’s just the constant expectation for interaction, engagement, whatever you want to call it. They will happily sit for the whole afternoon talking about absolutely nothing, for days on end. Every time I appear there’s a barrage of questions. Since we’re here for a chunk of time I brought work stuff to do WFH some days, but it’s impossible to work in peace as there’s always someone about who wants to ask you something. I’m quite introverted and like time by myself. There’s also a bit of a language barrier: I speak the language but not hugely well, so I find long conversations tiring. But then DH gets annoyed that I’m antisocial, that I’m too quiet, not chatty enough. I do engage (yesterday was a holiday & I spent the whole day helping with the big family lunch, hours at the table, then all watching a film together in the evening). But after a few days they drive me mad and I want to get away, but can’t. And we have 4 days of actual ‘holiday’ away with them next week, staying at a hotel, still to go.

I know the obvious answer is to go for less time, but DH won’t entertain that. His response when I suggested a shorter stint is that it’s not enough time. But time for what?! Just sitting around here, having the same conversations in circles over and over? Next year I’m putting my foot down and he can go alone, and I’ll either sit it out entirely or join him later…

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Iflyaway · 16/08/2022 17:02

It's hard to live away from family.

For some maybe. For others like me it's bliss.

FlySwimmer · 16/08/2022 17:03

@LastWordsOfALiar I absolutely know I’m being a bit unfair. And that I can be grumpy sometimes. But as others have said, I’m giving up part of my precious summer to stay here with them and I’m allowed to be a bit annoyed with the situation while still being grateful that they host us etc.

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woodhill · 16/08/2022 17:07

Yanbu they sound a nightmare and your dh should be more assertive perhaps

Rickrollme · 16/08/2022 17:09

It sounds like you have a DH a problem. Your ILs are annoying and it sounds like you are doing what you can to make it bearable. Your DH has no right to insist that you do it on his terms, at least not for two weeks! For a few days you can be expected to put on a happy face and be chatty but more than that and you are perfectly entitled to spend some of your time “working,” taking walks, and doing whatever you can to stay sane in an uncomfortable situation.

Drinkingpop · 16/08/2022 17:12

You have a DH problem. He's not 6, he doesn't need supervising. If he wants to go for longer than you're happy with he can do it alone. Your needs are being sacrificed for him and his parents'.

LookItsMeAgain · 16/08/2022 17:13

Why is your DH afraid of offending his parents but not you? By his inaction, he's offending you. He's doing nothing to sort out the problem. Looking for the easy way out.
Time to show him that he'd better set his parents straight about the constant hovering around when you're doing washing up (or perhaps drop a few dishes and you'll not be asked to do that again I'd imagine). Time to start going out for dinner or ordering in, irrespective of what they want. You're on your holiday. You've earned this break. Take a break. Eat out. Drink out. Ignore any comments. Or counter any comments with "I'm on my summer break. It's a pity it appears to be a summer break that's under the microscope with all of the comments I'm hearing. Next time, I think I'll go to Benidorm/Barbados/Ireland/The Moon as I have worked very hard for my summer break and I've earned my time off. Now, I know you didn't intend to be rude by passing comment so we'll forget about it this time. Can I pop the kettle on for a cuppa for you perhaps?"

woodhill · 16/08/2022 17:15

Give your fil a tea towel.

My dsf once watched me in the kitchen and I didn't like it, nearly went home

CruCru · 16/08/2022 18:18

I think part of the problem is that two weeks is a long time to be a guest in someone else's house - and also a long time for your in laws to have to host (even if they won't admit it).

Come up with a list of things you want to do on your holiday and agree them with your husband. The night before announce that tomorrow you are going to do XYZ then are going to go out for dinner to give them a break. Then, on the day, do that. Keep the time hanging out with them to every other day.

FlySwimmer · 16/08/2022 19:15

I agree two weeks is a long time - in fact when we were booking I said as much, but DH insisted it was the minimum.

While we do organise some days out, it’s not as simple as just announcing the day before - or at least, my DH claims so. My MIL was talking to me about lunches & dinners for the next three days, yesterday evening. She plans for these days, and if anything throws that off she is visibly annoyed. So we’re going out tomorrow morning, but we’ll be back for lunch. We’re also going out Friday, but have extracted lunch for ourselves - still expected back for dinner though 🙄

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declutteringmymind · 16/08/2022 19:26

You have a bit of a DH problem I'm afraid. A lot of why you can't do why you want is because he doesn't like it. Tell him that you are using your annual leave to keep him happy, so either he looks after you or he goes on his own.

Gerwurtztraminer · 16/08/2022 20:13

But for some reason I pretty much always have to be there with him, it’s like they’ll think less of us if I wasn’t to come.

No, he wants you there as a distraction, to take the sole attention off him, to give them someone else to focus on, to act as a barrier and to say/do the things he wants to but is too chicken. You're his human shield in battle.

For next year, you will have to be strong, put your foot down with DH and only go for as long as you are willing to. And stick up for yourself about going out, meals etc even if PiL's sulk or DH argues. Just ignore/grey rock and do what you want.

been and done it. · 16/08/2022 20:52

LastWordsOfALiar · 16/08/2022 16:18

I think you're being a bit unfair. You may not be enjoying it but your husband is and it's his family reunion time. So suck it up and put a face on. They sound well meaning and typical of older people in my experience. Annoying, yes, but not purposefully unkind.

Then arrange a proper holiday, just he two of you, later in the year.

Hardly a reunion they all live in the UK anyway so must see each other fairly often.

billy1966 · 16/08/2022 20:55

Are you being abused and bullied by your husband?
Because it sounds like it.

Or you are unbelievably passive and a martyr like your MIL?

He is forcing you to spend two weeks of your precious holidays with his ghastly parents.

Nags you if you try and work.
He doesn't listen to you.

If you haven't had children with this selfish twat, run.

It is not normal for a husband to bully his wife into a two week stay with parents.

Certainly not in my world.

Stand up for yourself and stop putting up with his whining.

godmum56 · 16/08/2022 20:59

@FlySwimmer you have a strange interpretation of the word "lucky" I think its foot down time to your DH.....He gets to go and 'enjoy" time with his parents and you stay home or go elsewhere. If he doesn't like it he can suck it up. You Don't pretty much have to be there with him....you are a grown up with choices.

FlySwimmer · 16/08/2022 21:13

@been and done it. We don’t all live in the U.K. DH & I live in the U.K., ILs live abroad. As do my parents. Which is part of the problem - a lot of our ‘holidays’ involve seeing family. It’s just the way it is unfortunately. I definitely wouldn’t want the ILs to move to be close to us!

DH & I had it out on a walk earlier. I told him I’m not doing these kinds of trips anymore. And he agreed. He can see I’m not enjoying it and tbh I don’t think he is much, either.

We kind of got into this pattern as during both Covid summers, we were able to use my ILs’ second home for extended periods and WFH; they weren’t there all the time, and we also took ‘proper’ holidays ourselves, just us two, from there as they live in a Mediterranean country that’s good for holidays. However as this is a ‘short’ trip (in comparison to previous summers) they have insisted on being here the whole time. To be fair, those previous summers I was reaching the end of my tether at the end of our stay and said to DH we aren’t going for as long next time. And we aren’t on this occasion. But 2 weeks is clearly too long as well!

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