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MIL upset because DP brother was coming to visit us.

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butterflywings24 · 15/08/2022 13:02

Sorry for this long post, I'm hoping with the background, someone offer some good advice on how to deal with this.

I have fallen out of grace with my MIL recently, I have seen her mask has slipped and she's not the sweet generous lady she made out she was, but a manipulative and mean lady. She massively influences her sons and seems to have no care for my boundaries, even trying to cast me in a bad light when I am organising something, I have over the years allowed her to dominate situations to keep the peace, many times in my own home, only saving grace is she's not on our doorstep so has to be an organised visit. She seems to be able to manipulate my DP into agreeing with her antics as if it's acceptable behaviour, when by my standards I feel it's toxic and Unhealthy, yet my DP defends her actions as if it's a perfectly normal things to do.

To give you an idea, we invited his parents up for the day for DP birthday, even though she's still got a bee in her bonnet about the last thing she tore through my boundaries on, but I am trying for my DP sake, she said no.
Then on Friday I thought what if I can organise getting his parents up and his brother and partner as a surprise BBQ, so I invited them all, little awkward with MIL as she doesn't usually respond to my texts so BIL asked on my behalf, told her it was a surprise to my DP. She still didn't want to come. Come his birthday, she called my DP and spoilt the surprise and told him they was coming up and she was not happy about it, saying she's upset they are coming up and feels left out, and is not happy with us all. My DP was furious at me for organising the surprise and tells me to call them and stop them from coming as his mother is upset. I felt terrible as they had left and had to abort the visit. I apologised to them both, not fully understanding what the hell has happened here.

I just need to ask for advice on how do I handle her, as I have for years kept the peace, I am not a confrontational person, Im polite and probably a people pleaser, that's not worked for me so I have to stand up for myself with how she's treating me.

Im just getting bad anxiety about what's going to happen next, I just don't know what to say about the next time my DP suggests them visiting or us visiting them.

My SIL told me my MIL has told her she doesn't like me, I just feel her antics lately have been cruel towards me and we have not had words at all, she just makes sure my DP puts me firmly in my place. DP so afraid of upsetting his mother but not bothered about upsetting me.

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comfortablyfrumpy · 15/08/2022 22:41

I am not sure who is worse, your "D" P or your MIL. They are both thoroughly unpleasant, nasty people.

Either way, it isn't good for you bring stuck in this situation. Please, you deserve a better life than this.

The Freedom Programme is excellent. Please use it and start planning a future where you don't have to put up with this shit xx

NotStayingIn · 15/08/2022 22:45

it might take me leaving him for him to realise how vindictive she has been towards me, When it will be too late then!

Honestly, don't kid yourself. He's not going to give a shit. He doesn't give a shit about you right now, can you really not see that? He will rewrite the narrative to make it your issue and that he is well glad to be shot of you.

You deserve someone who truly loves you. Stop selling yourself short.

butterflywings24 · 16/08/2022 11:29

We are not married, I'm embarrassed to say he's still not divorced from his children mother.

And yes hotfroth quite possibly she is stirring a bit, from what I have now heard, SIL has been on the wrong side of her too, and she's also had enough of her petulant behaviour.

Frazzledasarock from what I have gathered, they was no love loss between ex and MIL, I would go as far to say they disliked one another. I think MIL interference didn't help they relationship at all as she'd moved up here to help with kids, but then moved back down 6 months later as ex was not playing ball with MIL plans. I believe she MIL kept sticking the knife in, till DP left her, DP said to me he'd fallen out of love with her.

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Spohn · 16/08/2022 11:57

Why do you keep writing about the boyfriends mother? The bloke treats you like shit, you should be dumping him, who cares about his shitty relatives?

butterflywings24 · 16/08/2022 16:28

Spohn Was just responding to other users, but yes DP has been unsupported bf and i do deserve better, I have been standing up for myself more so then ever this year after a difficult year last year.

And I am now prepared to walk away if I get anymore craziness from him. Stuck it out for so long as was hoping it would change, as do see a good side in him too, and some things do get better, but then this shit happens and I am left wondering why am I putting up with this, I'm not married to him or have kids with him, just share a house equally.

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Spohn · 16/08/2022 18:17

Any time a woman thinks ‘maybe he’ll change’ about some crap bloke you can instantly tell she’s throwing years of her life down the toilet. Stick the house on the market while the market is shit hot, quick! No need for fights or drawn out talks, the dead horse needs no more whipping.

Lolapusht · 16/08/2022 19:08

OP, if he’s still married than his “ex” is his next of kin and she could have a claim on your house. Who’s name is on the deeds and how is it owned? Have you contributed money to improvements etc? When did they split up and why on Earth aren’t they divorced? What has he told you the reason is and have you checked that with the ex? Even if it’s not his fault they’re not divorced, living with someone and owning property with them is more than enough reason to divorce!

Biscuitandacuppa · 16/08/2022 19:18

Op many years ago my mum married my stepdad and his mother was a complete bitch. She didn’t like my mum and treated me like I was invisible because I wasn’t a blood relation. She was quite sneaky about it and tried to keep her nastiness hidden from him. Once he realised how horrible she was (I asked why she didn’t like me and me mum, I was 4) he went around, had a blazing row and cut her out of his life.

Your DP is blind to his mothers faults and honestly sounds just as bad as she is. Actually he is worse because you have to live with him. You need to start making plans to live a happier, healthier, stress free life without him.

OldFan · 16/08/2022 21:10

She's dropped or refused 2 offers to come to yours or invitations of some kind you've made @butterflywings24 , so I think if you stop inviting her you hopefully won't have to worry about seeing her much as it's mutual (she sounds awful BTW.)

2catsandhappy · 17/08/2022 02:14

I hope you can walk away before she ruins another Christmas. Life is too short for this,

billy1966 · 17/08/2022 14:41

You are getting good advice but are focused on fixing everyone when the person with the biggest issue is yourself.

Why have you accepted being treated so poorly for so long?

This is not a good man.

He's not supportive.

He has awful parents that he is enmeshed with.

Why do you believe you deserve such awful treatment?

Stop trying to fix everyone else, which is futile and sort your own shit out.

You are in an abusive relationship.

He doesn't actually care deeply for you.

You are merely conveniently there.

You are 100% wasting your time.

Please wake up.

butterflywings24 · 17/08/2022 17:17

Billy1966
I didn't have the greatest childhood, so that's probably not helped how I view myself, I struggle with doing things for me, I feel guilty, my DP use to tell me a lot over the years that I was selfish if I asked to do something without him at the weekend, he has kids so had them every weekend, we had loads of falling outs because I wanted to see my friends. It was easier in the end not to do things for me, I would feel like I was the worse gf in the world because I didn't stay in with him and his kids after he had ago at me.

Over the last year I have done more things with my friends and family, as I have realised via counselling that it was wrong to let him control my time. His kids are a lot older too, so not as demanding as they was as young kids.

I do think he loves me, he's just caught up in trying to please his mother and also his grown up kids.

I do feel a shift in my behaviour towards him, I am getting stronger, and listening to what others say on here has helped me realise it's not me whose got a warped way of thinking but him, so really appreciate peoples opinions, as it's helping me get wiser to him.
🙏x

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frazzledasarock · 17/08/2022 18:18

Your P sounds worse with every post.

billy1966 · 18/08/2022 01:15

So he has been.abusive for many years and used you to care for his children too.

So sorry to read this.

He has been awful for many years.

You deserve better than him and his awful family.

Aquamarine1029 · 18/08/2022 01:19

We don't have kids together

Best news I've heard all day. Stop wasting your life with these arseholes and run for the hills. It shouldn't be this hard, op.

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